• zerofk@lemmy.zip
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    I love how millennial has become the new code for old. Gen X has been skipped again. As always.

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    that’s dumb. I have a wallet and so does everyone else I know in my age. Im gEn Z. these stupid generational labels make no sense

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      From what I can tell in this thread, most people carry wallets outside of generational divides, and the post is BS. There is also a significant number of generational-independent psychopaths who have absolutely unhinged systems like “I just carry lose cards in my pocket because I don’t want to take ten minutes picking out a wallet at the store.”

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    I strayed into not taking a wallet out with me briefly, then I realised my life shouldn’t rely on Apple or Android (or my (lack of) ability to charge devices).

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      Exactly. We should decrease our dependency on these companies, not increase it.

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      I wouldn’t mind that so much if those payment methods were more universally accepted, but they aren’t.

      I use a wallet case so I can put cards in the back of my phone case instead of carrying a wallet.

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        My state doesn’t accept your license/id to be digital, id also have to walk a few miles before I found the nearest sidewalk, so the idea of going anywhere without a wallet it absurd.

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      A guy in front me at the grocery store had to ditch a cart full of items because his phone was dead.

      Super embarrassing for them.

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    Uhm… on top of not having my phone as my single payment method… where should I carry my id and driver’s license and medical card if not in the wallet? Should I carry them loose in the pocket? Or in my bag? Why? That’s so unconvenient and in the long term ends up damaging them.

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        I have a job that prohibits me from having a phone during working hours. It broke me of my dependency and now ive notice people getting irritated if i dont respond in minutes. Some days, they’ll just have to wait til 5 until I can check it again.

        But it’s also made me so much less attached. I regularly dont have it on me

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          It’s my companion for the restroom. If you text me any other time, it’s going to be at least 5 minutes before I notice.

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          I just hate being bothered. Thats pretty much my entire secret. When I first got a smartphone I cracked the screen chucking it in the next room because the damn thing wouldnt stop buzzing.

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        Gen z here, I do use a wallet but many people use these sticky wallets that you slap on the back of your phone case to hold their cards.

        I don’t use them because 1. what if something slips out somehow and 2. damn you lose your phone and wallet in one.

        We don’t just leave shit hanging loose lol. We still have credit cards and drivers licenses to hold.

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          i had one of those wallet phone cases and lost my phone. luckily it was at pride and whoever found it was not an asshole. tracked the phone and got it back, and thankfully didnt get my card used or stolen. i learned that day.

          (i only lost it that once. just my luck lol)

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          I have one of these that has a tracker in it, so even if my phone dies, I can find both my wallet and my phone.

    • I usually get plastic sleeves with those, so yes, I just have a stack of cards in my pocket. At least I can fit it in together with a phone.

      Although I don’t know how to deal with coins. A jacket brings me extra pockets at least, which is why I can more or less only use cash during winter.
      Buying a wallet requires a choice. Searching for something right, and I am too lazy for that, so in the pocket it goes. Unfortunately, I often lack pockets. So if I am not traveling, I’ll just leave out my phone, so I can still fit in keys, cards, and a shopping bag. After all, I don’t need a phone most of the time anyway.

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      I used to have a separate wallet, but i switched to this magnetic billfold thing that attaches to the back of my phone. It has enough room for an ID, credit card, debit card, and ond of those tile locators shaped like a credit card. Unfortunately these are horrible for user privacy, but it helps me find it if I lose it. In a pinch, it can also hold a small fold of cash.

      I almost never need the other things my old wallet held: insurance card, cash, other credit cards or gift cards…? What else did I even carry? I still have my old wallet at home and a small box I use to keep other ID cards, gift cards, etc.

      The magnetic thing also doubles for a hands-free phone stand if I want to set the phone down on a surface and watch tv while I’m eating lunch or something.

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          Not necessarily. I can detach the phone wallet and leave it at home if i want.

          Also why would i lose my phone?

          If i misplace it at home, i can use find my to ring it. Can’t do that with a wallet.

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            If you leave the wallet at home and lose the phone or it fails, then you’re still with no documents or cards. Just because it never happened to you doesn’t mean it can’t happen. I got in a car crash when I was returning home from my job and the phone got destroyed. I was able to be identified and my family located because I was carrying my wallet with ID, national security card and driver’s license. It’s an extreme case, but it can happen. It could also fall in a bad way and get damaged… I’ve seen too many phones (fortunately not mine) decide to fail their user in the worst moment to trust them exclusively.

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              This is why you always have to carry physical ID when you’re driving.

              Yes it has happened to me before. Just less often than losing my wallet when i used to have one that didn’t attach to the phone.

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                Yes. But you said that you can leave your wallet at home, hence leaving all your documents on it and carrying just your phone. You can get involved in a car crash without driving by being a passanger or simply someone walking on the street or biking.

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                  You can also be hit by a meteorite.

                  But it’s unlikely, just as it is unlikely for most people to need physical cards.

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          My thought exactly. A decade or so ago my back was hurting and I decided to try a different style of wallet. Upgraded to a better one when I realized it works for me.

          Even if all I have in it are cards, id, and a single dollar bill, it’s still a wallet, just doesn’t leave me sitting at an angle. Yeah I had a Costanza wallet going on.

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          I use one of those minimalist wallets, and I would describe it as a card holder with an elastic for cash.

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      why would you even carry your id? the driver’s license is always in the car and the medical card is only needed for appointments at the doctor

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        I don’t know anyone who keeps their license in their car. Car culture is different in the us vs the eu, so maybe not as common over there, but sometimes if traveling with friends you will switch who drives. You should have your license on you if you’re driving. Additionally, it’s good to have your ID in case you forget your credit card somewhere and now you have a document with your picture on it that has a name that matches the card. I still get carded sometimes when buying alcohol or entering certain places so it’s not unusual to want to keep it on hand in case you want drinks or something.

        Also good to have your ID and insurance information in case of an emergency.

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        Because a cop can stop you at any time, in any place for any reason and while (legally) you don’t need to show it - your day will suddenly get a whole lot worse if you don’t.

        And In the year of our Lord - you must also worry about ICE

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        I might drive my car, I might drive my partner’s, I might drive my coworker’s car. I might collapse on the street and someone needs to figure out who I am from what I’m carrying. The license/id stays with me, not the vehicle.

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        If you need to use a car that’s not yours, what would you do if the license is in the car?

        And why wouldn’t you carry your id with you? Not just police might want to stop and ask for it, but what if you get involved in an accident and have to get taken to the hospital while unconscious? How are they going to id you to know who to call? Just to say an example.

        Also, your medical card should always be with you in case of an emergency. You never know when will you need to be taken to the hospital and having it with you makes everything much easier.

        There’s no advantage that I can think of in not carrying your documents (or even copies of them) with you.

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      You already can’t in so many places. I thought it was required to accept cash, but apparently that’s only for paying the government.

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          That’s how I understand it. Cash is legal tender and has to be accepted to clear debts, so restaurants where you pay after you eat might not be able to refuse cash (though I don’t think there’s a requirement to provide change), though they can refuse all future business with you.

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      Some ATMs track the serial numbers of the bills you get. Even then, though, it’s more private than a card. Unless they have video of you shoving the bills into a machine for payment, say at Walmart self-checkout, they really don’t know how many hands the bills passed through before they passed through a reader again. Also, good if you can get a store to break the large bills for you. Then, they only know that you paid for a pack of gum with a 100-dollar bill.

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    My wallet isn’t owned by a tech conglomerate that has access and admin privileges to everything inside of it. Also, I just don’t want my phone to be everything, especially my I.D.

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    Admittedly, I only have a couple of gen Z friends, but they both have the biggest wallets of anyone I know.

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    I get it you can pay with your phone these days. But I also have an ID and a public transportation card which can’t be on my phone. Also I have cash on me. Where to keep that? Every time I pull out my phone or keys money falls out of I keep it loosely in there. I know Gen Z doesn’t have any money, but where do you keep your drivers licence and public transportation card? And insurance card? Where do you keep your drugs then? I have some coke and keta in there as well. Putting it in my pockets and it ends up in the washing machine. And I keep a set of earplugs in there for when I go to a party or concert. Because I would always forget to grab them, I now have them with me all the time.

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    I left my wallet on my work desk and a youngling helped walk me through using my phone to pay for my drive-through coffee order. I felt so cool and high tech.

    Of course, when we got to “turn on NFC” the youngling asked what NFC was. I think I told him it was like Bluetooth and let the phone talk to the card reader.

    My older “forgot my wallet” technique was to make an online order for pick up and enter my organically memorized credit card information into the online form.

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    Yeah, humans still occasionally acquire important small pieces of paper or plastic that are convenient to stow in some type of small container that can be keep on the person, what a shock.

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    I’ve worked in IT support/Security for too long to have any of my cards just a short nfc tap away from being used/stolen from.

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          Kinda. Have you tried using an NFC reader with your phone’s tap to pay? You didn’t get the actual card data. It’s all tokenized now. If I remember the details correctly, the merchant sends a token that they partly generate and add the token data the get from your card and they send that to the payment processor, and it’s only really usable at that point in time. So if I was wandering around with a high powered NFC antenna I’d need to be running a merchant terminal ready to charge them. I can’t harvest the data to sell later or anything like that. So the risk is pretty heavily mitigated.

          That being said, I still use a wallet with NFC and RFID blocking

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      Then you’re well aware that it doesn’t work while the card is in a typical wallet.

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    People keep talking about cash but I have a bunch of other shit in my wallet too, like ID card, insurance cards, bank card, several coupons, a bottle return receipt, cancer screening documentation, antiFamily card, pension card, organ donor card, and I don’t even have a driver’s license or that would go in there too.

    Where do the youngsters keep all that?

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    Idk What this people could be on about, I’m 22 and like, I have a wallet and a miniwallet that detaches from the main wallet.

    Paper cash I usually don’t have, but like cards and stuff.

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      Yeah, I’m 25, have a wallet, and don’t know anyone my age who doesn’t have a wallet