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    Stein wasn’t even the only third party candidate stealing votes. I voted for Gary Johnson with the Libertarian party as a “protest vote”. Glancing at national results, he had almost three times as many votes as Stein did.

    I was 100% the moron this meme is targeted towards. I voted for Harris yesterday.

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      But you aren’t a moron if you learned from your mistakes. It means the opposite.

      I wish we had ranked choice voting. Then these protest votes would still work and not screw with the system so bad and we could fight the stranglehold of the two party system.

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        I want something like this where I live. We have FPTP here, but we have a viable third option in some areas. I’d be happier to to have more than 2 robust parties on the national stage.

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        My state is trying to constitutionally ban the use of ranked choice systems 🫠 fingers crossed the muppets just drew enough awareness to implement it after we reject this amendment

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      Hey good on you for being open to change your stance. So many people these days cant.

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      Me too Stein in 2016. I was so mad at Clinton for what they did to Sanders. I am voting Harris as soon as voting is open here.

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          Don’t forget 2020. They even made Warren stay in through super Tuesday just to fuck him over more. Not to mention thar snake trying to claim Sanders as a sexist with that hot mic. I never forgive her for that.

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      Third party voting; the really real reason Democrats and Republicans can’t get their candidates elected. lol

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      The Jill Stein hate requires a lot of ignorance and very little faith in the candidate running at the head of the Democratic Party.

      Obama crushed McCain and Romney, green party be damned. Biden squeaked by Trump on thinner margins than Trump beat Hilary. Nobody cared about Stein in that race.

      What changed? Why are Democrats so terrified of the green party all of a sudden?

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        Because Biden just squeaked by Trump. Leading to 50%-ish of the US population and 80%-ish of Republican voters believing that the last election got stolen. Also leading to a lot of election officials in key states being replaced by fair election denying nutjobs.

        Haven’t you been paying attention in the past few years?

        I’m not even in the US and I’m already exhausted with the BS that’s upcoming, if there’s no landslide victory for any of the candidates.

        Be aware that any third party vote will be a vote for trump. If that’s what you truly want, I fear for your sanity.

        Btw, it’s not true that nobody cared about Stein in the previous election. Back then they too said “a vote for Stein is a vote for trump”. You may not have heard it personally, but that message was out there. And it’s still true today!

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          I’m voting Jill. All your liberal gaslighting just hardens my resolve. I don’t care how many convoluted explanations you come up with to say I’m voting for Trump. My ballot never said Trump and never will.

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              No, your refusal to field an actual popular candidate with actual progressive policies helps Trump win.

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                Homie, I do not control who the DNC fields. I am basing my strategy on the facts of the situation as they are presented to me. Where’s your popular candidate?

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                  Right, you only tirelessly shill for them by browbeating anyone that has a problem with their candidate currently overseeing a genocide.

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            Someone not even from the US understands this better than you?

            Man… you have no excuses.

            At this point it’s clear to me why you’re here and what you’re about.

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        And the Shill Stein love requires zero common sense, and a shit load of entitlement.

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            No one is insisting anyone is entitled to anyone’s vote. We are however insisting that you try and understand how voting statistics and simple grade-school math works.

            Everyone else has this figured out already? Why are we so close to an election and you still don’t? Do you seriously think that you have some big hidden secret figured out? You know better than the overwhelming majority of an entire country?

            Every generation does this shit. You think you know how it works. You don’t.

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              No one is insisting anyone is entitled

              a shit load of entitlement.

              :-/

              Everyone else has this figured out already?

              There arguments have been made. You simply don’t like the conclusions other people have reached.

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        This, but since dot world is infested with Reddit liberals you’re getting down voted into oblivion.

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          They’re getting downvoted into oblivion because everyone here knows better.

          It’s always easy to be the most ignorant one in the the room if you ignore everyone that tries to tell you how and why you’re wrong.

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      But I didn’t want Clinton to win. My picks were: 1. Lessig, 2. Sanders, 3. Stein, 4. Johnson (Gary), 5. blank. Knowing only what I knew in 2016, I disliked Trump and Clinton equally, and would never have voted for either one.

      (And yes, I did know that Sanders had endorsed Clinton.)

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        I would hope that you learned something from your error, but this comment shows clearly you haven’t. I learned it when I voted for John Anderson and in my tiny way contributed to Reagan winning: in America, you vote to keep the worst fascist out of power, and if it means voting for someone who isn’t perfect but has the numbers to do it, that’s who you vote for. The primary may be your opportunity to show support for other parties, and you can go to rallies and spread the good word to influence the discussion, but until the day your third party candidate has enough potential votes to actually win it, you help hold the wall.

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          Shit, I wouldn’t even discount trying to vote 3rd party when it comes to local elections or state elections. You have to chip away at the power the big parties have at the peripheries first, before trying to do big stuff like voting 3rd party in the big presidential election where they are basically guaranteed to not win.

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            Yeah but saying that you vote third party during local elections doesn’t rile people up. Many of these third party voters only come out of the woodwork during presidential elections just because they want to be contrarians.

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        We wouldn’t have a 6-3 conservative supreme court with Clinton, along with a rash of conservative lower courts. Not only have we had extreme fallout from this already. But it will be affecting us for decades.

        A bunch of our red states likely wouldn’t have swung to extremism, like my home state which went from Asa Hutchinson to Sarah Huckabee-Sanders. I don’t know if my kids will legally be allowed to learn that slavery existed in school.

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          We would absolutely have a 6-3 conservative court with Clinton. We just wouldn’t call it conservative.

          We probably wouldn’t have a fascist court like we do now though.

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      Ah yes, the true stolen election. But Al Gore conceded, even though it really was too close to call.

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      the electoral votes column juxtaposed with the other columns is just documenting what should be a crime.

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      Since all ‘electoral votes’ go to the winner in the US, why do they even bother mentioning it? Its seems entirely vestigial

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      My brother is voting for Jill Stein to “send a message to the Democrats” that they can’t automatically rely on liberal votes. He voted for Nader in 2000 to “send a message to the Democrats” that they can’t automatically rely on liberal votes. When I mention the 24-year gap here his response is “what’s your point?”

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      That’s the official count, but we’ll never know what the actual count was. A bunch of people who “voted” for Nader were trying to vote for Gore but got screwed over by the format of the ballot.