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  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.comtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.worldLatinos 4 Trump...
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    7 days ago

    You have to understand that people vote values more than they vote personal interest.

    If a person have conservative values: religion, traditional family, anti-LGBT, sexism. They will vote that even if it is against their personal interest.

    Progressive parties need to understand that. Specially when it come from immigrants of countries with vastly different societies (often more conservative that US/Europe society) that they will be highly likely to vote in consonance with those conservative values even of it comes at a great personal cost.

    It never surprised me those figures. In my country we have a lot of Latin American immigration (Spain).And, of course, every person is unique. But, on average, they tend to have much more conservative values and vote for the conservative parties more even if these parties are against their economic and social interest. Always talking on average. Of course there are progressive people that come from Latin America. I’m just talking of averages.

    And this phenomenon is not unique from Latin America people. It happens to everyone. If you, reader, where progressive and rich, what would you vote? For your progressive values or for your economic interest? You would probably vote for your values, won’t you? Same is happening with poor white people raised in conservative environments. They vote for their values even if it makes them even poorer.

    People vote for values.





  • I’m not American. I live in Europe.

    But I’ll give an insight. Socdem party lost support for most people because they systemically failed to address the issues of the working class.

    People can have empathy for other people’s problems. But when no one cares about your problems a ñnd election after election they ask you to vote them because empathy to others, and never for your own good, because they never do anything for you. And your life keeps getting worse and worse, and still they refuse to address your problems, and keep wanting your vote just for “stopping fascism” or “being solidary”… You can do that for one election, maybe two… But at some point you just phase out, you just cannot care anymore. If they don’t do anything for you, and you need something being done, you just don’t vote.

    And seeing the low democratic turnout in the US, I think it may be the answer. Maybe people that didn’t show up yesterday is people that needed their problem solved the last 4 years and they just got ignored by the Democratic party. So they just didn’t vote the Democratic party out of spite.

    I will actually probably won’t vote in my country next election. Fully knowing that the conservative and fascist parties will win and form a coalition government.

    But SocDem and Communists have been ruling 8 years and they failed to address my issues. I cannot, in good conscience, keep giving them my vote knowing what they are doing with it. I just have my dignity. I will stand against the altRight on my own terms when they’ll raise to power if necessary, but I’ll refuse to give my vote to anyone who didn’t deserve it.