I literally never said you said that. LEARN TO READ! GO BACK TO SCHOOL, IDIOT! LMAO YOU HAVE NO READING COMPREHENSION 🤣🤣🤣

See, I can do your thing too.

I literally quoted you word for word on everything, except for the part at the beginning where I clarified that socialism isn’t when the government does stuff, which I never claimed you said.

Even if you weren’t lying, bluffing, and trolling, which you absolutely 100% are and have been this whole time, there’s no excuse for you to keep accusing me of misreading and not having reading comprehension instead of saying the fucking thing you’re accusing me of misreading. We could have been having a productive conversation this whole time but no, because you’re just a troll who’d rather do this bit of pretending I misunderstood something.

Communicating badly and acting smug when you’re misunderstood is not cleverness.

You are a worthless pedant and a troll.

You equivocated Kamala with what is happening now:

Kamala was fully, 100% behind the genocide and wouldn’t have done shit, just like Biden.

That’s not equating (equivocating is something different btw) what’s happening now with what would’ve happened under Harris, it’s equating what would’ve happened under Harris with what did happen under Biden. Since Harris explicitly chose not to differentiate herself from Biden on any policy, it’s an entirely fair comparison.

Biden did an awful job reigning Bibi, that’s true.

Yes, because he made absolutely no attempt to. Because he literally bypassed congress in order to send them more weapons.

But there is no way to convince you, because none of this conversation is grounded in reality.

• It’s a fact that Biden bypassed congress to send Israel more weapons

• It’s a fact that Kamala did nothing to suggest her policy would have deviated from Biden’s in any way

• It’s a fact that AOC voted to send weapons to Israel

• It’s a fact that Israel is a genocidal, apartheid state

• It’s a fact that your approach of appeasement was already tried and did nothing to stop the genocide.

All of these points are reality, all of them are supported by evidence, all of those are things that you refuse to acknowledge and refuse to ground the conversation in.

So yes, I completely agree that this conversation is not grounded in reality, and yes, there’s no way to convince me any more than you could convince me that the earth is flat, because all of the facts are on my side.

A dialog tree of same stupid “genocide Kamala” “you’re a zionist” etc.

When you support genocide and Zionism, people are gonna say that you support genocide and Zionism. Because it’s true. What do you even expect to happen? How am I even expected to describe your views when you go around being like, “Actually, it’s good to send Israel weapons?”

“All these people are calling me a pool pisser, right on cue, like they’re reading from a script,” you say, after pissing in the pool.

If you’re not going to put in the work to understand i/p and treat everything as a simple soundbyte I can just match your energy. It’s no different really

So, because you see me as knee-jerk opposing Israel, your response is to knee-jerk support Israel.

What a ridiculous conversation. You’re very obviously a Zionist, it’s like you’re just ashamed to accept the label.

So your whole dumbass trolling was over the absolute pedantry of “the police are socialist” vs the “police are socialism?”

You really are just reaching for whatever desperate form of meaningless pedantry you possibly can in order to troll and to get out of the fact that you have zero idea what you’re talking about.

Who the fuck said anything about Trump? Pure whataboutism.

Why are you acting like it’s some sort of revalation that I don’t like Harris? I’m criticizing AOC for being too friendly to the genocidal Zionist regime, and Harris was even more friendly with them. Or do you just like the soundbite of “And there it is?”

No, I didn’t say you used an llm. I’m saying your talking points are indistinguishable from one. It’s just slop sound bytes, nothing more.

Whereas you have the incredibly unique perspective of blindly believing and supporting whatever the politicians of your preferred tribe say or do.

The fact that you can’t at least acknowledge that Israel was also being attacked, especially after Oct 7

That’s not a fact, you pulled that one completely out of your ass. I’m happy to acknowledge it. It changes absolutely nothing about my stance.

You are saying so much and nothing at the same time.

For someone who claims to hate “soundbites” you sure do love trying to make your ‘zingers’ sound profound.

Instant hack to win any argument: just say, “You didn’t understand what I wrote, LEARN TO READ!” over and over again.

It’s obvious you’re full of shit and have literally nothing, that’s why that’s your only response.

Nothing I’ve said or cited was AI generated or had anything to do with twitter, nor were they soundbites. I linked full articles put out by the DSA.

And that includes bringing Israel to the table.

And that’s exactly why they don’t need to be given weapons “defensive” or otherwise. How exactly do you think they can be brought to the table? By asking them nicely to not do genocide? Trying to appease Israel by giving them weapons is no more possible than trying to appease Hitler by giving him Czechoslovakia. There is exactly one limiting factor on Israeli aggression, exactly one way to bring them to the table, and it is force. Kamala was fully, 100% behind the genocide and wouldn’t have done shit, just like Biden.

If you guys aren’t capable of addressing these with real concrete actionable items, it’s just effervescent self masturbatory ejaculate

You guys had full control of the executive branch, and what did you do to stop the genocide? How did giving them weapons and asking nicely to “bring them to the table” work out for you?

I find it hard to believe anyone’s dumb enough to actually think that’s a viable strategy. Again, you’re just a Zionist, you just support giving them weapons because you don’t have any problem whatsoever with what’s happening there, you just don’t want to say it outright because it sounds bad.

Notice how they constantly link government funded tracts as if they’re sources.

If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.

Yes yes, I know, I’ve engaged in wrongthink, therefore I’m a “Kremlin bot” and can be written out regardless of how much evidence I provide for the things I’m saying. Notice that I didn’t link any “government funded tracts” here, but the DSA’s own statements about this. Unless you’re implying that the DSA is also full of “Kremlin bots?”

I’ve explained what the iron dome is.

Everyone knows what the Iron Dome is, dipshit.

Correct

Correct? What TF do you mean correct? Correct we should send Iran missile defense systems?

They are not key allies in the me.

So you support the alliance with the genocidal regime.

And now we’re back in the world of slop sound bytes. I’m so happy for you that you’re anti-genocidal.

Describing things dismissively doesn’t make them untrue.

I don’t even know why you’re weighing in on this conversation. Obviously, I’m criticizing her from an anti-Zionist perspective. If you want to argue that she aligns with your Zionist values, then sure, I agree with that completely. From the perspective that genocide is actually bad, however, the criticism is completely valid.

Ah, there’s your reason. You don’t care that she sent arms to Israel because you want arms to be sent to Israel.

See, now we can identify the point of disagreement, which is that I’m not a genocidal Zionist.

The iron dome bill is exclusively for defense weapons

The thing about defense is that once you have it locked down, you’re free to do whatever aggression you want because nobody will be able to retaliate. The possibility of reprisals is the only reason Israel hasn’t fired up gas chambers and furnaces.

By your logic, why don’t we just send Iran, Palestine, etc. the same kind of “defensive” weapons? It’s not like they’ll be able to hurt anyone with them. You can say “Iran doesn’t have the right to exist” or whatever but that’s not going to cause millions of Iranians to pack up and leave.

No, it takes twice as much energy to refute lies and stupidity.

So essentially you can just say whatever you want with nothing to back it up, gotcha.

Do you intend to contribute anything to this conversation more substantial than, “That’s STOOOPID, you’re so STOOOPID, those headlines are STOOOPID,” because you have yet to provide a single word to actually explain why any of them would not be valid examples.

You literally said that the police are socialist.

Really? Doubling down on showing that poor reading comprehension.

I never said I didn’t call police socialism…LEARN HOW TO FUCKING READ.

Dumb bit you’re doing but knock yourself out I guess. It’s kinda pointless to blatantly lie when there’s a record of everything you said.

First you said police are socialism, then you denied saying that police are socialism, then you denied denying that the police are socialism. You’re ridiculous.

Says the person who thinks police are socialism, lmao.

And yes, that is what you said, anyone can see it plainly and there is no other interpretation no matter how much you try to pretend otherwise. What a bizarre form of trolling.

I’m guessing you have some dumbass leap of logic to justify how saying the police are socialism doesn’t actually mean the police are socialism, so are you going to actually explain what kind of insane thought process is going on in that head, or do you have nothing going on in there at all?

Troll.

That still doesn’t have anything to do with socialism. It’s a capitalist country giving perks and benefits in exchange for labor. That’s like saying that a private corporation with a health plan is socialist.

Even universal healthcare isn’t really socialist. There have been constitutional monarchies where the king instituted universal healthcare.

Socialism means that the workers are in control of the means of production. There are different interpretations of what form that should take, but nothing about a system where capitalists control the means of production and occasionally do nice things to their underlings to keep them loyal and productive has anything to do with any form if socialism.

Look, is it a pyramid scheme? Sure, maybe. But trying to pick the right religion to get into heaven, and even then there’s no guarantee, that’s like playing the lottery. You’re better off signing up now and getting a better spot in the pyramid.

During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.

I maintain that the moon is the very embodiment of cheese, but that doesn’t make it any less delusional.

Jokes on you, my plan all along was to tempt you away from God to secure a better position in Hell, as is the secret motivation of all atheists. Muahahaha!

There’s a pretty significant difference between blocking the free movement of people between two polities and the question of which polity controls an area. And I say that even as someone who doesn’t care about the second one unless I have a good reason to (beyond just it being a border).