The pig sees her, turns, aims, and shoots her almost point blank.
Imagine if you were the security guard at literally anywhere and did this. Not only would you be fired. You would likely not work security ever again. Also, you’d face criminal charges. I get cops have more responsibility than a security guard at the mall. But the video evidence shows us a clear psychopath that wouldn’t qualify for a security guard position. Will there be punishment? Maybe an investigation? Not really. American police are not police any more. They’re the SS. And they will shoot kids dead for looking in the wrong direction. We are far beyond the point of no return.
Private security here! Spent eight years as a guard before moving up to corporate level.
I think about this daily. How an armed guard could get not only fired, but potentially blacklisted from the entire industry (at least locally) for pulling their gun at the “wrong” time. If I were on duty and shot a journalist with a rubber bullet on fucking TV….its just inconceivable. If I were a manager and got a call that one of my guards did this, I can’t even imagine, I’d have to Japanese-train-conductor myself live on the 5pm news after reading a 20 page apology. There aren’t responses strong enough in my repertoire for something like that.
Cops just do it and saunter on to their next abomination.
Like it or not, private security have ten times the liability, accountability, damn near any metric you wanna use, that police do. We get fired (or removed from contracts at client request) for tiny shit daily. A guard being caught burping by a dickish client manager could lose a contract worth millions and dozens of people their jobs.
There are enough bad apples in our industry that I can’t really argue against the leeriness, ridicule, etc, from the public. I get it; there are a lot of IRL Paul Blarts out there. It means the industry needs to raise standards…meh, I’m getting off topic here.
You’re entirely correct, and I’m glad to see this pointed out. Police get away with shit that would get any guard super-extra-mecha fired, whether it’s a highly trained armed guard working a federal contract or an unarmed kid making $9 an hour to sit in an empty parking lot.
From both sides of the fence, this is not how this should be working.
the difference is police, are enabled the govt to do this. and the police union, really a gang can strongarm a city by refusing to do thier job.
as a side bonus, it preferentially chooses conservatives and social rejects as a hiring preference.
LAPD shot a protester in the head with rubber bullets and refused to call an ambulance for her as she lay there bleeding and concussed; another protester was trampled and concussed by mounted police; countless other protestors were beat over the head savagely with batons… and this is only what was on video.
California should pass a ballot initiative making it legal for any random person to shoot police with less lethal munitions whenever they want. You should just be able to walk up to any cop, any time you want, and shoot them with a rubber bullet. If it’s good for the goose, it’s good for the gander.
Its only illegal if you get caught
It’s one thing to constantly talk about standing up to tyranny and defending your precious freedoms, owning guns especially for that long awaited moment when they can be revolutionary heroes.
Looks like Americans talk the talk but don’t walk the walk.The Americans who spout off about things like standing up to tyranny and how much they love having guns are not the same people participating in this protest. The government is actively supporting those people.
The protesters are the ones expecting the rule of law to eventually win, but also know how important it is to protest so that the rule of law continues to exist. It may not be as violent as you’re expecting, but it seems to me that they are walking the walk.
We haven’t done this in a while and we’re a little rusty, but that doesn’t mean we aren’t fighting.
The Americans who spout off about things like standing up to tyranny and how much they love having guns are not the same people participating in this protest
And this is part of the problem. Maybe we should be the people bitching about tyranny and loving guns.
Slow down there baud. With talk like that someone might mistake you for some kind of anarchist!
Well, it’s a good thing I’m on the anarchist Lemmy instance.
Guns is probably and mostly a typical right-wing fetish (despite Dem uniparty politicians doing nothing about it).
The freedom and revolutionary spirit talk is for sure bipartisan and typical American.I can tell you now the velvet gloves, following the little rules is not going to work.
You will get nothing if you don’t take it.And when have you done this before?
I can’t think of anything.Edit:
Wondering if you’ve been influenced by this rat here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/1l7iqgl/stfu_lib_show_some_solidarity/
same protester that got trampled and concussed was the one shot in the head.
NYpd and lapd are probably the most corrupt out there. LAPD has actual gang affiliations, some with white supremcesists.
Rage against the machine lyrics are factually based.
Lots of police departments started as slaver patrols, Union busters, and right wing militia.
Portland’s police, for example, were originally a KKK militia.
Great time to also mention that Oregon was founded as a white supremacist state.
This wasn’t a “stray round.” That shot was deliberate and that pig knew exactly what he was aiming at.
The dude literally waited until he was on camera to take the shot. Not only did he know exactly what he was aiming at, he wanted to be seen doing it.
LA cops are notorious assholes. He could hardly wait to get home and pull it up the clip and show everybody: “Hey everybody! Look what Daddy did at work today! I shot an unarmed journalist for doing her job! Funny, right?”
Guaranteed he’s emailing the clip to everyone he knows.
Isn’t this assault?
he’s a cop, so he’s definitely not going to face consequences
I’m so glad that it was completely caught on camera so there’s no wriggling out of it. It was deliberate at close range.
US officials have some answering to do to us.
Though, we all know we won’t get shit, as their vassals.
Maybe we’ll do some more war crimes on their behalf, you know, as a treat. Then lock up the whistleblower 👍👍👍
A good time to remind everybody that while rubber bullets are considered “non-lethal,” they can kill.
Back in 2004 a college student in Boston died from a bullet that missed its intended target, hit the ground and ricocheted into her eye.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Victoria_Snelgrove
So, while the shot certainly wasn’t warranted, IMO its worse because of what could have happened because this officer was taking a shot for fun.
Even if less-lethal ammunition were risk free, that should still be a crime. Even in the ideal risk-free case, how is this any different from assault, if the cop came up behind a reporter swinging his baton. There was clearly no justifiable reason, it was clearly assault for fun or intimidation, and any reasonable person would know that.
It is a crime. Cops are effectively above the law.
There are some laws that even cops can’t ignore, such as the law of gravity when a brick is in the air.
I’d say Newton’s 1st is more applicable here
“non-lethal” Oh, boy! What an infuriating misnomer that is.
This is also a good time to remember nothing here in this context is “non-lethal”. All of these things (sand bags, tear gas, tasers, pepper spray, mace, rubber bullets, batons, shields, tactical holds, etc.) are accurately called “less lethal” because all of them can and will kill under certain circumstances, even when used by trained officers with good intentions. (I know. How often does that happen, right?) It doesn’t take much to cross that line between “not intending murder” and “actual fucking murder”, often something as simple as a common medical condition or simply falling while moving over hard ground like curbs and sidewalks. If a reporter is using the term “non-lethal” in the context of police brutality, that’s a pretty good sign that you are being lied to.
Almost all " non-lethal" munitions are really “less lethal” and capable of killing someone if they get hit in the wrong area. They also easily maim. I saw a pellet from what are called “donkey balls” which are essentially clay-more mines filled with little rubber pellets bounce off a wall fast enough to go through someone’s cheek and exit out the other side of his mouth. TLDR You can really fuck someone up with that stuff. Cops think they are like nerf toys.
Those are the things the Jackass guys got shot with in the first movie. The company called it a “Stingmore” mine.
Way too many people are comfortable with utilizing anything referred to as a “mine” against unarmed civilians.
That and the fact it’s directly attacking your civil rights to free speech and an unprovoked attack. So it’s definitely unconstitutional.
There’s a distance at which they stop being “less-lethal”. At 10 meters/30 feet they’re considered extremely dangerous. The “effective range” at which they’re generally considered less likely to penetrate is 20 to 30 meters (65 to 100 feet).
Lenses make estimating distance tricky, but based on the lines in the road, I don’t think she’s 20 meters away from that cop.
These journalists need body armor and helmets if they’re going to be that close to American Police. Back in 2011 an Iraq War vet named Scott Olsen was head shot at a distance of a few feet fracturing his skull and when some protestors tried to rescue him they flashbanged the rescue effort. It’s extremely unsafe to be that close to these guys.
I want to tell all the centrists who acted like leftists were radical, dangerous people for the last 30 years in the US while treating violent, rightwing conservative ideology as if it was innocent and defenseless… to personally eat shit you naive idiots, leftists were trying to warn you about this moment in the US for decades, fucking DECADES and y’all still chose to listen to fascists over learning some basic things about leftist ideology. Even after violent rightwing fascists attempted a literal coup on Jan 6 y’all still wanted to be afraid of leftists more than rightwing mobs actually assaulting the U.S. capitol.
Over the years I have wasted soo soo soooooo much breath talking to older boomer conservatives who believed themselves to be centrists or even democrats, and it was all a damn waste of time, these people have brainworms and admitting they have been living inside a bubble that popped late in their life interferes too much with their ego and sense of impending mortality (have I lived a life and learned worse than nothing about what the future will be???) for them to listen to kindness. Bypass these people and organize with people who understand, leave the naysayers I am criticizing behind and let them catch up once they realize how truly alone they are (with no younger people on their side from the conservative or leftist end of the spectrum).
spits on the authoritarian, rightwing dictatorship at my feet
Unfortunately there are quite a few young people on their side. We’re going to have to address the amount of Gen Z support we saw for Trump in the last election.
it’s much wider than generations, it’s definitely race and gender mixed into this for sure. And just looking at the White House it’s spread across all generations being represented here.
If you’re zeroing in on gen z: Lots of white boys who believe they and they alone are facing oppression and were brainwashed into thinking trans, ‘brown people’ and women deserve no rights.
At least that’s how the influencer weight has been getting measured.
Ps: Joe rogan is total fucking scum who caused all this shit.i hope he rots in hell if hell were a real place.
Meh, it is concerning but it is concerning in the sense that liberals and centrists won’t actually make an appeal to young people who are scared, all they will do is shame them for being lazy and sternly tell them their life is going to be MUCH harder than their parents so fall in line and get used to being screwed over and over and over again.
Conservatives appeal to young people with fascism, but that is not a new thing, it isn’t a new thing for young people to be enticed by it either, what is new is the cynicism of older people towards younger people being terrified of their future. It is disgusting, it honestly makes me want to vomit my body has no other response to my “elders” spitting in the face of scared angry children who only see toxic strong men and empty talking heads as role models.
Blame someone else other then Gen Z, I am sorry but I didn’t spend my whole life listening to boomers say “but what about McGovern! Fall in line stop complaining trust me I am older than you and have earned my cynicism, you will never win young people never vote” to then have the narrative instantaneously switch to “Gen Z has abandoned us for conservatives and are voting now why are the kids evil!?!?!”.
I have been using the word “pathetic” a lot lately, but I will use it again here because nowhere else fits the usage of the word better, stop being pathetic and stand up for kids instead of concern trolling about what is going through their heads as they watch the world fall apart around them while all the kind adults are mostly in utter denial about it and are useless as guiding figures.
They are getting young women and girls with the TERF stuff/4B insanity. No one is paying attention to this.
Look, you don’t understand. Biden didn’t use all the leverage he could with Israel, and was old. Democrats tried to give everyone healthcare… So obviously, “Both sides are exactly the same!” /s
Biden used zero leverage with Israel to the point that Israeli figures would openly brag about the US letting them do whatever they want.
They aren’t the same, at all, one is the bad cop and the other plays good cop.
There’s zip about this in the Australian TV news this morning. One of their own and they still don’t have the balls.
Channel 9 reported it as her being “caught in the crossfire”, as if she got hit in a gun battle between protesters and cops or something
Especially since you can see the cop in question pointing his weapon directly at her and her news crew.
Generally, that’s the direction guns fire ;)
The part I find damning is that if you watch more of the video, that cop was absolutely watching her for a long time, and knew FOR SURE she was there and was press.
Besides just being a psycho pig or something similarly fucked up, the only reason I think that he could have done that is there was a car turning onto the road where she was and he wanted her to gtfo of the road. But even then, that’s fucked up.
Mainstream media is complicit with Trump’s fascism. Which is to be expected with capitalists.
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A lot of Australian news corps are are owned by Rupert Murdoch. I feel this explains enough.
Sure, that’s why the goddamn prime minister is now weighing in. Because it’s so hidden.
The oligarchies are working together.
I’m a Canadian and I seem to be more furious about this than many Australians.
People killed by the german police in 2024 (record year): 22 People killed by the police in the united states in 2022: 1176 Well i guess we only have 1/4 of the population so 50 times the number of deaths is normal is to be expected.
Based on my American public school education, math checks out!
roughly 13 times the german record if you adjust for population. still fucked.
Bullet proof west with PRESS on it and a helmet/glasses. Trump made a war zone so it should be treated as a war zone.
I mean yes but its not a ‘lost bullet’. he willingly fired on her, and at that distance he could clearly fucking see she has a microphone and is in front of a professional news camera.
You’re assuming he’s even literate.
The media in the US is not on the side of democracy.
It was an Australian reporter.
Oh they are much better, ever hear about some guy called Murdoch?
Murdoch was Australian, he chose to be American
Besides the point.
And it was for legal reasons anyway
Police with this behavior should be fired and prosecuted. Unacceptable.
I think they’ll get a promotion for this one
They’ll get a two week vacation and maybe a promotion.
fired and prosecuted
lol. you’re sweet. i was thinking of something that would make them fear us for a very long time.
I think the provocation was her reporting facts. Can’t have that when most voters have chosen Trump.
Imagine believing there was unbiased reporting about protests before trump. This has been going on since the founding enslavers…
Imagine believing there was unbiased reporting about protests before trump.
Liberal news journalists come in two flavors:
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We love the cops and we’re trying to figure out why everyone is so angry at them all the time. To answer this question, we asked the cops.
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Ever since <Insert Republican> has taken power, the police have been ordered to do things that some people are saying is bad. But is it for our own benefit? To answer this question, we interviewed a member of the <Insert Republican> administration who supports it and a cop who is feeling anxiety over following these orders.
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imagine not understanding that shit has gotten far worse.
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I think Trump dreams of a civil war. That will be the perfect excuse to hurry the slow dictatorship takeover.
That is slowly happening anyway, while people are still having wet dreams of democracy.
I think Trump dreams of a civil war
then let’s have one. let’s make it go sideways for him. we can’t back down from aggression. that’s living in fear. i want to see this end in a way that sends a dire warning for all future fascists, sociopaths, and idiots.
C’mon, the camera was coming straight for him!
the cop probably mistook that
acorncamera for a rocket launcher that you carry on your shoulders. they had legitimate reason to feel threatened.LAPD has right to defend themselves. she is lucky it was a rubber bullet.
IDF would have shot her in the head then bombed her house and kids school (with them in it).
well maybe in a few years, israel certainly are facing no consequences for a live streamed genocide. the same ultra rich scum are funding both, so they will certainly implement it here after successful trials abroad.
dude, this is a weirdly over the top response.
Is it? That’s exactly the kind of rhetoric used to defend Israel, and bombing schools with kids in them is exactly what they do. American police train with the IDF. That kind of brutality we (ETA: as in “the U.S.” broadly) support abroad comes home eventually.
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When they shoot us we need to shoot back
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I thought self-defence was legal in the US
No, only if you’re white.
No, only if you are white, rich, and politically powerful.
Not against the powerful.
found the pig
People on the side of the cops will learn soon they are on the wrong side of polite society, and the wrong side of history.
Historically hasn’t mattered.
Are you saying it doesn’t matter if the majority of people are against a fascist regime? In many countries that probably would be true, but the US is massive and spread out with millions of guns and many state agencies that might not be as sympathetic to these sorts of crackdowns or would oppose a militant escalation against protests. It’s not just the right who have guns also, nearly all political tendencies recognize the need to be armed. An anti-government insurgency would look much different here than what we’ve seen in the past.
It hasnt mattered yet. I still see people serving cops. Hell, i saw a wal mart wiyh special cop only parking last year.
Yeah creating delusions is way better than taking responsibility for your role in society.
It certainly feels nicer. I think that’s how this works.
self defense isn’t violence mate
Comments like this are the whole reason I’m here. Got banned from Reddit for talking self-defense against armed people trying to rip your family apart.
I’d like to think realistic discussion is safer here.
that’s definitionally not inciting
What does boot taste like?
go fuck yourself
Wow, what a little bitch…
Go back to fucking reddit and eat boot leather
While I detest violence in all forms, and respect peaceful protest and the power of the ballot box; it seems like the current administration is doing everything it can to disenfranchise the voters of this country, and preemptively using violence against peaceful protesters. I hope things don’t tip too far, because while Americans don’t riot like the French at the drop of a hat, there is an enormous amount of anger simmering among the working class people in this country, and I’d hate to see that erupt. If it does come to a head it will make the Paris riots like a sunny day on Lake Geneva.
A large part of that working class is fully captive to the corporate media narratives, and voted for Trump last November. They support this.
They less support this, than the lies they were fed. His disapproval polling is clear on that
And yet, zero self-awareness to try to connect the actions to the outcome. If those same lies were fed to them in the exact same way, they will continue to do the same stupid thing.
If they’re too busy worrying about where the next meal is coming from, can you blame them? I mean you can but surely that removes some of the blame
It does not. They are poor as shit because of who they vote for. Full stop.
Not really, the kind of people you’re talking about have been poor for at least a generation
i hate how vague the term violence is, as it can mean so much as to make it useless.
protesting is a form of violence, it is meant to hurt the status quo. if the protests blocks a road or impedes trade and therefore there’s some economical violence in there too.
but there’s also violence in an unfair system that creates those protests. people are protesting ICE kidnapping and disappearing people with support of the state. that is a much worse violence than that being used in the protest.
and the “violent” police response, was violent, because he literally shot a reporter.
because the term is so vague, anti violence as a moral stance is meaningless.
Americans are packing more heat than the French. We won’t ever organize to shut down the country, but there will be more executions and attempted murders like the United Health CEO.
As people fall into despair most will rot away silently, but a minority will decide to take somebody with them.
How about we organize instead? Make it a goal to go to the protest this weekend, meet one person whose sign you like, get their contact details and agree to meet up at the next protest. It’s that easy to get the ball rolling.
Protest would be more effective to effect change, and I will be doing my part in my city.
america may have tons of guns, but when what’s probably the majority of them are owned by people who seemingly approve of what’s happening, will there ever be the necessary large scale resistance?
For what I and probably you want to happen? Almost certainly not.
For something to happen? I figure yes. I will be doing what I can to shape the future with peaceful protest.
I mean guns guns guns people talk about but IEDs won Iraq and can be made IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS
Yes, if Americans rise up, I think it’ll look a lot more like The Troubles than the first American Civil War. For one, because there aren’t clear, geographical divisions this time, and indeed, I would guess that guerilla tactics are going to be more effective than guns against a military with overwhelming conventional warfare capabilities.
Absolutely. The US military was tiny at the outbreak of the civil war, and a whole lot of the veterans of the Mexican American war were fighting for the South.
If violence escalates, and I think it might, it will look much more like the troubles than the American Civil war.
I wouldn’t be surprised to find more of those in use in the US I. The coming years.
and mostly targeting blue counties too.
And a British one, too.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/los-angeles-protest-photographer-surgery/
Okay but also, fuck LBC, they’re a rightwing (and Zionist) mouthpiece
Oh so it’s ok to selectively shoot journalists if you don’t agree with their ideology? I bet the other cop didn’t agree with that journalist’s. Case closed, following your logic.
They’re two separate statements. I acknowledge that it’s beyond shitty for cops to be shooting anyone (especially journalists).
But also the news outlet in question is known to have shitty politics and therefore while this specific article is more or less accurate (and backed up by other sources) , they are far from a reliable source.
I don’t think that’s what they meant. Ok -> acknowledgement that it’s shit that the journalist also got shot.
Sadden how much obrian dropped talking about it once they canned sangrita
are they? all i know about LBC is what I’ve seen of James O’Brien and he seemed to be none of that. is he like a token liberal/socdem or something?
It’s a bit of a mix, generally considered centre right.
Your link also includes the full video of the Australian getting shot too. You should point that out as I’m sure others would like to see it.
