But seriously what kind of predatory policy is that in the first place?
be this site
advertise to kids using discord servers
if they win from gambling, ban them bc they’re underage
if they lose, it’s their loss anyway
double your profits with a simple trick
My nephew fell for this trick. He’s not a child, but he was gambling online on a European site as an American. He won big, tried to withdraw, they asked for a European passport. RIP his entire account.
Having worked in the industry, there’s actually an explanation that is only half predatory.
Most of those addicted to gambling can’t and won’t shake it. They refuse to seek professional help, and the decision to quit only lasts the “temporary embarrassment” phase of losing all their money. Meaning: most gamblers who decide to quit (and we’ve got statistics on this), about 80-85% on average, is back to their favourite gambling service within 60 days.
At the company I worked at, the primary reasoning for having a cooldown period instead of instant deletion was the following:
- the cooldown period can already be linked with our lockout service which blocks the person from using the service for X days, so if they REALLY wanted to, they could block themselves for the entire time (and it surprisingly is being offered as part of the cooldown period)
- if there’s a regulatory block (meaning you got formally diagnosed by a doctor, and that doctor, with your consent, reached out to the local regulatory body and requested a blacklist entry for you), the service is blocked either way
- the users who do come back, don’t want to lose their “stats” - their previous bets, wins, losses, etc. would all be gone with a new account. In fact, the number one complaint from returning users was that their data was gone.
Basically the idea is “if they’re coming back anyway, we might as well make it easy for them”.
Now the thing is, for all the regulations… Gambling services are unfortunately not responsible for the addiction they cause. In my opinion they should be, just as a doctor would be held responsible if they fed into a patient’s painkiller addiction. And for all the regulatory crap… most people in gambling companies aren’t interested in compliance that much. It’s very much a “do it then say sorry and fix it in post” attitude from the leadership and higher management. So while the above might be the “official” explanation, I have zero doubt that the decision makers don’t give a fuck and are specifically doing it to psychologically pressure people into coming back.
I mean gambling is shitty but we don’t hold folks that make alcohol responsible for folks getting addicted to alcohol.
I’m not familiar with legal gambling, but theoretically there is a percentage of users that partake casually for fun - yes? And others who get addicted. Same with booze.
Obviously the overall experience of gambling is more predatory/distasteful, but I’m not sure that means they should be legally responsible for the folks who get addicted. If the booze makers and sellers are not responsible for providing a potentially addictive product, why are they?
If the booze makers and sellers are not responsible for providing a potentially addictive product, why are they?
True, but we do hold those who serve alcohol responsible for over-serving customers (at least in the US). Though I’m not sure how we’d even begin to regulate gambling services in a similar manner. A bartender can be held legally responsible if they serve alcohol to someone who is very visibly intoxicated, then that person drives home and kills a family of 4.
If the booze makers and sellers are not responsible for providing a potentially addictive product, why are they?
Booze makers aren’t using predictive algorithms to hook people that are trying to quit.
They are, but in a more traditional sense.
Booze makers aren’t using predictive algorithms to hook people that are trying to quit.
The hell they aren’t. That’s called “Marketing”. You’re describing “Marketing”.
If the booze makers and sellers are not responsible for providing a potentially addictive product, why are they?
Maybe they all should be.
…just as a doctor would be held responsible if they fed into a patient’s painkiller addiction.
Yeah! Like all those doctors who got in trouble for the opioid crisis!
Oooh, I saw a part of that firsthand.
Relatives in Maine, three at the same address, got hooked up with a pill-mill in Biddeford.
One sold all his Oxycontins each month, made a grand off of it.
How he passed his mandatory “pill count” every week was to get the balance of pills he needed from his other relatives. They all had the same prescription. Would go in, be one pill over or under (“I felt good last week and forgot…” or “yaah, it was rotten for the pain so I popped an extra…”) and skirted the system for a couple of years.
Coasted along fine UNTIL the Feds went and busted a Walgreen’s Pharmacy Warehouse in Florida that was the source of the pills…
The next day, 4 of the 7 MD’s at the pill mill disappeared into the ether. A few months later the grapevine relays that two lost their licenses one got some sort of penalty and one likely left the country never to be seen again.
Fucking crazy times.
Basically the idea is “if they’re coming back anyway, we might as well make it easy for them”.
That sadly sums it up pretty well.
predatory policy
gambling site
same thing.
A gambling service has a predatory policy to make breaking an addiction as hard as possible. Yep that sounds about right
This predatory nature is going into my thesis on how gacha gaming led to the downfall of online porn
go on…
Can you give us a tease?
I’m uncovering my calves… Ooo hot, right?
Hilarious way to terminate an account very quick.
Also shows that using automation for accounts administration.
It is identified as a bot
I’m confused by 24 hour self exclusion, followed by 90 day self exclusion. So 91 day self exclusion? Why not just say that?
no incentive to make it easier or less complicated I suppose
This feels more like a LifeProTip than a shitpost
you acknowledged the x-post potential
ball is in your court now
Jesus - that comms so dead I didn’t think it actually existed…
be the change
I can’t. My battery’s dead.
site now pairs an age of 12yo with the name and identity, that spreads out to data brokers, and the other 9384575 ‘partners’ they have… and soon enough, facebook, xhitter, reddit, google, microsoft, sony, nintendo, steam… all start demanding proof of id or no access.
I’m seeing nothing but upside to this plan…
other 8675309 partners
We’ve already established this is more a LifeProTip.
xhitler already wants my photo ID scanned from the full app installed on my personal mobile device
That’s genius
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