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    Props to Grannycrackers for handling the aftermath with such grace and humour. Not sure I would be half as composed as her. (Or half as chuffed at getting to ride in a police car.) Hope she smashes her fundraising target.

    Looking forwards to the news of the arrest of the no-lifer who swatted her.

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    Reminder that SWAT was created in response to the black panthers. It’s a Jim Crow tool for dealing with uppity blacks that know their rights.

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    How the fuck is swatting even a thing?

    Can just anyone call the police, yell “BOMB AT X ADDRESS!” and they just show up, tear down doors and throw you to the ground???

    All, without repercussions???

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      Not only without repercussions, but without reparations. Anything destroyed or damaged is on the owner to replace/fix, including the pile of splinters formerly known as “door”.

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      Cops live for that shit dude. They do it themselves for fun every once in a while, this just makes the excuses easier for them.

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      In my state there is a law that makes false call to 911 a criminal offense. If someone says “there is a bomb” on such call, that makes it more serious offence because this will cause public alarm. If the person making such call is stupid enough to do it from their phone, they will likely be identified and prosecuted. And people doing stupid things tend to be that stupid.

      I’m not sure about damages caused by the raid, though. SWAT doesn’t know if the threat is real or not, so they can’t be held liable. Probably the victim can sue the caller, if they’ve been found…

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        How about the police do, idk, like 5 min of police work to verify literally any part of the story first?

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            Call people in the neighborhood, ask if anything is off? Send in a single car to scope out the scene, while keeping reinforcements in the wings? Ask 911 where the call originated, and adjust expectations based on that?

            At least two of these things can be done while the police begins to move towards the destination, as intel gathering doesn’t require policeman to be making the inquiries, just support staff.

            0000

            Fact of the matter, is that American police are the same breed of ‘warrior’ that Pete Hegseth is: Bloodthirsty, undisciplined, incompetent, and in service to powers of capital and hate, not the citizens they are supposed to serve.

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            Like what? Do you have an example?

            I don’t really believe that swat is necessary even in theory.

            If someone is being held hostage, call in a negotiator. If it’s a bomb, bomb squad. What precisely is the swat team for?

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          Exactly, like asking “is the caller even in the same area? Who lives there? Is this place usually agitated?” Which seems like they would need to know before going in anyway…

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      What else are they going to do with all of that excessive money and time…and desire to shoot people?

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    Just here to point out that it’s not normal for a military response to some rando calling in a hit on someone’s house.

    A normal response is a check by a single police car with two officers. One to knock on the door and ask questions. The other to remain with the vehicle to call in any issues.

    This is a police state.

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      They probably reported to the operator an excess of melanin at the residence.

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      It really depends on what the call in was.

      If someone says there’s an active threat and their life is in danger, sending 1 car would would be gross negligence and a danger to the officers.

      Now, this call, seems excessive. I dont know what would warrant that response even if it was an active threat.

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        Yeah, you send one car first and have the other ready. It’s insane to send 20 cars instantly for an unverified anonymous tip. Idc if the caller said there’s an army of cannibals killing dozens of people, it’s still an unverified anonymous tip. If it’s real you’ll get more phone calls or the first car will radio it in.

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        That’s an argument to be made, but I don’t believe that is true at all. Sending one car to check on the safety/welfare of one active threat seems an entirely reasonable balance of risk. An unverified active threat is not at all the same as a confirmed active threat. That should be obvious simply by the existence of “swatting” as a common term and act these days.

        It is not the duty of police to protect people from eminent harm, they have argued this themselves in court. Their job is strictly punitive, again an argument they have made in court many times. They only pretend to “protect and serve” when it suits their agenda of justification for their over inflated budgets. This isn’t a public safety issue. It’s a class warfare issue.

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    Is she using X-ray and macros or something to cheat at Minecraft? Seeing very little discussion of the video.

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    Takes a special kind of asshole to swat a little old lady for trying to host a wholesome gaming stream for a good cause.

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      The fact that swating still happens just proves how much of a joke policing is in general. The fact that you can get a bunch of gun-wielding adrenaline junkies to show up somewhere, frothing at the mouth for violence, in the most spurious of ways is a damning indictment for the whole institution.

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        I still believe that “defund the police”, is the correct choice. The whole damn thing has to go.

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          If you don’t have someone authorized by the state to enforce laws, you’re still going to get people enforcing “laws”, it’s just going to be vigilantes, people with grudges, etc. Just look how frequently you see incidents of road rage. Cops basically exist to prevent people from taking revenge into their own hands.

          Take all those incidents of people calling the cops on black men having a picnic or taking their dogs for a walk. If there were no cops, do you think these white “Karens” would just leave the black men alone? Or do you think they’d get together and lynch them?

          I think the US needs to scale its policing way back. It needs mental health specialists to respond to certain kinds of calls. The person who responds to a report of a stolen bike probably shouldn’t have a gun. But, at some point you are going to need people who will use physical force to enforce the law. Those people should be heavily supervised by a truly independent body. But, they still need to exist in some form.

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            Cops basically exist to prevent people from taking revenge into their own hands.

            No, cops exist to protect capital.

            This is just one example too, they’ve issued multiple similar rulings. Also, uh, see: Uvalde.

            If there were no cops, do you think these white “Karens” would just leave the black men alone? Or do you think they’d get together and lynch them?

            …you think cops keep black people safe? Are you being remotely serious here?

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            Yeah for people downvoting this, cops being a problem is largely an American thing. In many other places around the world they are actually beneficial.

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              Weird how many videos I’ve seen of German police beating anti-genocide protestors and British police arresting seniors for expressing anti-genocide opinions. Maybe that was just an American psyop.

              White supremacy is the problem, and America may have the worst case of that, but certainly not the only case.

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              Yeah, Thunberg was definitely arrested in America. Just, uh, don’t google it.

              Cops can be amenable with enough controls, sure, but they ultimately serve capital, man.

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            Yeah, this is what a lot of people fail to take into account when it comes to the purpose of policing in society. There’s obviously a lot of inherent problems with the way the police are structured in many countries as a whole, but to believe that we can just make do without something like them altogether is pretty shortsighted to say the least. I think that prevents a lot of otherwise sympathetic people from taking the backlash against police institutions seriously.

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              Yea it’s funny how they just angry downvote, and if they reply at all, they don’t really respond to the points. Who will do the fucking policing if there’s no police??? There will always be people who need to be forcefully stopped from what they’re doing.

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                I think the idea generally is to replace the police with social welfare programs and unarmed crisis responders, but that’s jumping through so many hoops that it just sounds way too simplistic tbh. It sounds practical, but it treats the problem like it’s something that can be improved with just a few institutions reforming/being abolished.

                There’s never been a society without some form of justice system since cruelty is a part of human nature, and at this point these systems are far too intertwined and embedded in our societies for them to change dramatically without some form of societal collapse or retraction.

                Idealism is well and good but the things many want in place of police institutions seem like they’re ignoring how complex and non-specific the issues are as a whole. It’s definitely not a one size fits all situation, especially with how many factors there are. People can disagree with me but I’d prefer to hear why at least, there are probably things I’m not considering here.

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          Probably shoot you and the aggressor since keeping themselves safe is the priority in their training.

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    Info about Grandma Crackers’ fundraisers for her grandson’s cancer treatment and Phoenix Children’s Hospital.

    https://thegrandmafund.com/

    They also created a crypto token where the fees go to the previously mentioned fundraisers.

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        Love it how banks managed to convince everyone that crypto is bad, so they can stay rich and in power of controlling your money.

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          banks managed to convince everyone

          I don’t think banks have been in charge of the countless pump and dump crypto schemes in recent years. And Bankman-Fried (despite his name) wasn’t running a bank.

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            You know why there’s much less fraud with banks? Because they’re regulated. You know why crypto is not regulated? Because banks don’t want it, it’s bad for business.

            And if you think billionaires/bankers won’t do everything in their power to hold on to that power and money, including campaigns to make crypto look bad, and everything in their power to hide their own crimes, you are are heavily misguided.

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            Oh, I didn’t know that billionaires are honest and law abiding people. Not some greedy corrupt pedophiles, no no no.

            “Please, Mr. Billionaire, take my money, I know you will do good things with it. I’ll even kiss your boots to take my money.”

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    Kudos to granny for being so positive about it and acknowledging that the cops have to follow up on the calls they receive, but if some anonymous tipster can bring down a SWAT team on some grandma’s house without any kind of check being triggered, that might indicate that there are some problems about how these issues are being handled. Other people may get out of this with much worse than a funny story to tell when two dozen cops decide to visit their house at night.

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    Another side benefit to The Drug War, the gift that keeps on giving.

    Hundreds of thousands of people are sitting in jails and prisons right now for using. Over three hundred thousand on any given day.

    https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/pie2026_drugs.html

    This holdover from the Nixon era gets a little worse every year. Why do we have TWENTY cars available for any random prank caller?

    Are we safe yet?

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      Don’t you feel fine having what is essentially a para military forced within the USA whose intention is to protect property and not people at all? I know I sure as shit don’t.

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        I mean… police has always been about protecting the rich…

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    you have to be one sick twisted individual to be swatting a person, let alone a freaking elderly woman

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      While she’s trying to raise money for her grandkid’s cancer treatment, no less.

      Seriously, fuck whoever did this.

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          With cancer even with places that do have socialized medical care you might still need a lot of money.

          Cancer sucks.

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            I agree cancer sucks, but how do you need money? There is no fee to access healthcare here.

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              You get care that is covered, there might still be some drugs and experimental treatments that isn’t. This is because there’s still no actual cure for cancer.

              This is why you still can see people collecting money for treatments even when they have socialized medical care.

              When your cancer can be treated with already approved treatments then you are golden otherwise you do suffer similarly.

              This is not attack on socialized medical care, you are still better than no care, you might still get radiation, chemotherapy etc, it is more attack on situation cancer can create.

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          She couldve died, they frequently shoot innocent people and animals during these raids

          Swatting is fucked up

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            The most fucked up thing is that SWAT teams keep falling for it. What fucking information did they have that warranted this level of a response? How the fuck is someone not fired every time this happens?

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            No, but the attention they’re getting is probably orders of magnitude bigger after this, and attention=money in this case

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                This was objectively a bad decision, but regardless, none of us would be here talking about this streamer if it hadn’t happened. Most won’t donate, but the more people that see it, the more likely it is that someone will donate.

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            They didn’t say THAT HAPPENED FOR SURE, they said “dark thought”

            You’re allowed to post random thoughts on the internet

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                I didn’t yell, I capitalized part of my comment for effect. You can to that on the internet, too! You can also take people’s comments out of context, like you did, but then you’re liable to incur the wrath of some twat correcting you.

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      We’re in Generation Duh where people think doing this kind of thing is funny. But it’s funny only to them, was thought up of in 2 minutes, then discarded once any attention has been brought to it before they think of the next stupid idea that they think is funny.