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I’d pay good money to see them going door to door with their résumés, only to be met with the blank gen Z stare of children who don’t even know who owns the shop they work at, or why an old man is trying to hand them a scrap of paper with their life story on it.
Just walk in ,demand to see the Big Boss, look him in the eye and ask for a job!
That was among the nuggets of whizdum from my Silent Gen parents.
Even in late 2000s companies were just doing resume collecting at internship or career fairs.
Hell think king of the hill was even doing episodes of how hard it was to get jobs it during its early seasons. When wallmart causes every business to go out of business
one time when I was in college my mom called toward the end of the spring semester and said “if you’re not busy you should make a few phone calls and get a job lined up for the summer by the end of the day”
I hope you hung up on her.
That would elicit from me a reactive “kill yourself” and a lengthy period of awkwardness later
They should be forced to stay in the contest until they earn $10,000.
Until they save $10,000*
While renting.
I’d rather one where we make lawmakers live the average life of their constituents.
My dad had to do it because he was too old at 56 (office job). In 3 years (government support and savings) he could not find anyone who would take him. Eventually he started working small construction jobs (which he enjoys doing) through someone that did work on his house.
So I think there are plenty older people that actually know the difficulty.
Yeah, they’ve had time to build networks which definitely help.
That is the thing, the old connections were worthless. This was a connection he made after looking for a job for 3 years.
The thing that kept his head above the water were his savings and the European safety net.
Next, make the Boomer buy a house without using their current assets as a down payment.
Yeah, as a millennial I can feel this. Graduated in 2008 from university and couldn’t find a single job in my field. Couldn’t find a job out of my field. Couldn’t even get hired by fucking Taco Bell.
Eventually sold my body for money.
Did you get good money for it at least?
Most people who give advice for free give bad advice. Half the people who give advice for money give bad advice.
The only good advice is given by someone who recently failed.
Thanks for the free advice
Just the well-to-do Boomers? Otherwise the rest are just as broke and wondering what the hell went wrong.
If they don’t know what went wrong then they were, and continue to be, part of the problem.
Just them?
“Part of”.
It’s one sentence, dude.
I don’t really care about boomerism any more
make people who believe in late stage capitalism have to survive the low end of it. regardless of who they are
I’d pay to see one of those little DOGE wankers forced to work on a construction site
Fuck construction, put them in customer service
Woah there Satan
I have always said, if I were elected President, my first act would be to eliminate the draft and institute mandatory retail service of 2 years for everyone - especially those above a certain age and who make above a certain annual salary.
It would either force people to learn empathy and make the world a better place, or it would destroy the country. And I don’t care which.
Totally agree.
100% why I don’t give advice.
Older people refuse to acknowledge that the world has changed and the younger generation is legitimately fucked by no fault of their own.
Yes, but I also see the flip side. I often went without luxuries, or even good food in the early 90s (like cutting mold off my bread to make a sandwich for work) so that we could save to buy our first house. While I see young family members complain that life is expensive and its a boomer problem, but they forget their 20k debt is because they are using Skip to order a milkshake, burger, sub etc. every day. There has been a conveniece culture created, besides capitalism running wild on house prices.
There is a middle ground. A lot of younger people are legit shit at applying for jobs, like they don’t even read the job description and put the the position title… they just throw up a wall of buzzwords and copy-paste it and call it a day, showing the application reviewers they have no legit interest in the job.
Also a lot of them are awful interviewers, again, focusing on vibes and buzzwords and demonstrating a lack of legitimate interest. And yeah that might work if you want a bullshit job for a bullshit company, but for more serious work it’s a huge red flag.
Just having basic social skills to like, demonstrate that you know what the company does and that you’d be interested in it’s mission, as basic as that is, sets your application above like 95% of the rest of them. You don’t have to be fancy… you just have to demonstrate basic information processing and acknowledgement skills…
Edit: Going to just bold ‘vast majority’ since people seem eager to ignore that part of what I wrote.
I strongly disagree.
Unless you’re born into a wealthy zip code (and your zip code of birth correlates strongly with whether or not you become successful), you have four choices as far as I can see it: Crime, a lifetime of debt for a college degree, risk death in the military, or work a dead-end job until you inevitably can’t afford to live.
That is what the vast majority of young people are facing. They want to work, but even if they get a job, it doesn’t keep up with the cost of living and neither ruling party is going to lift a finger to help them.
The college degree also does not guarantee you’re not working a dead-end job! I know graduates doing things like driving school busses, working as a barista, and just working in an apartment building office. No guarantee you’ll find anything in your desired field
The college degree also does not guarantee you’re not working a dead-end job
Good point. And even doctors and lawyers are finding it a struggle to live, because of the debt burden.
Or just be smart, hard working, and get scholarships by going to schools that offer generous aid packages.
And where does that leave the rest of us mere mortals, you know the 99% of us humans that don’t enjoy the smell of their own farts
We attended the college scholarship presentations for my kids. A bunch of scholarship folk from the colleges spoke about “Just apply” that’s all it takes.
Because millions in unclaimed scholarships are left on the table because nobody applied.
One guy got the women’s sport scholarship because no women applied for it, so the school was like what the hell might as well give it to somebody.
Yeah but just apply implies a support system. Those kids dont just apply because they dont have parents who can force them to do it. And a ton of kids millions of them, did sit there and apply for the scholarships and now they’re baristas and uber drivers. Because even if everyone went to college for free, not everyone can be a lawyer or a doctor, we need greater numbers of baristas and uber drivers than we need numbers of lawyers and doctors, the economics just doesn’t work.
So again, what are the 95% of us who arent in the top 5% supposed to do, just be poor forever fuck us?
Also, uni doesn’t have to be about career, it’s personal growth. There is a good book, which I forget the title right now, about how countries that stop teaching the arts start to have less critical thinkers in society and just become factory minded workers with no questioning of the capitalistic nature their country is pushing onto them to only increase profit. So really we should all have free schooling to grow as a society, even if your passion is making the perfect latte
Trades is the best bet. I left Uni, and went into a trade. At 23 I had a house, wife, car, and baby on the way—Trades can be surprising lucrative, and can lead into other avenues via the variety of skills learned.
For example, now I train engineers how to use their software or how to solve the technical problem they face via the sequrnce of tools in the engineering program.
In some cases I’m earning more than the engineers. Their paper might open other oversea jobs though.
The interest is in getting paid, not the work itself.
Great. then you can work for shitty employers
I mean yeah I do work for shitty employers cause they at least pay decent even if they don’t do anything else right
right, because you’re only there for the paycheck.
those of us who work for good employers are here for more than the paycheck.
the application reviewers
What, you mean the LLM that filters out everything without the bullshit and buzzwords before it ever gets to a human? 'Cause that’s the only “reviewer” a carefully-written but not machine-optimized application is ever gonna see.
No.
Why are you booing him? He’s (kind of) right!
Lot of young idiots out there because of terrible parenting.
because the lemmy userbase thinks everything isn’t their fault. they are hapless victims who should never have to learn or try or progress… clearly if only AI didn’t exist… they’d be be making 300K a year and own 3 homes…
Stop making this a generational war, boomers aren’t the problem. Unrestrained capitalism is.
If they weren’t yanking up the drawbridge and making sure the rest of us have to pay for their pensions and to sit around doing nothing but collect rent, I’d agree.
(this is a somewhat tongue-in-cheek look at some reporting/analysis)
Hard disagree.
The boomer generation’s biggest crime was being a frog in a pot that’s only just coming to boil. The leopards were still in the distance and life for the most part looked good if you lack the ability to see beneath the surface.
Most people lack this ability. They are incapable of making abstract contextual links and stumble through their lives relatively blind to how the world works. Ignorant.
For most Boomers their ignorance does not make them guilty. Just foolish and weak. Fallible. That’s not enough to lay blame at their feet.
The criminals have and only ever will be the ridiculously wealthy; who’ve orchestrated this mess for wealth, power and hubris. Who’ve stood on the backs of all workers for all written history. Who’ve caused untold suffering and death. Our ire belongs with them.
Division along any other lines only serves those wealthy bastards reaping the rewards from our division.
You write as if the billionaires are the only crooks, there’s a long line of millionaires eager to commit crimes for their billionaire overlords and an even longer line of middle class folks desperate to do anything illegal or not to please their millionaire bosses. It wasn’t only millionaires that voted for brexit or voted for trump in the US.
Por que no los dos
Yeah boomers kind of are the problem they were handed much of what they have on a silver platter and then punch out at anyone else that did not get a silver platter and chalk it up to personal failure
Also when we say that things were handed on a silver platter, we need to factor in the western oppression over the east.
The point I am trying to make here is just to ensure Western bommers have it on a silver plate, the Eastern boomers had to suffer for it. Now we live in a world where everyone except Western boomers are suffering! The hints capitalism being shit was evident and the west did not do anything to change it now is the time for a fresh new world
Like the feather of Mario World, the cycle of good/bad times and good/bad men/people, there is the oscillation, but a general upward status.
It’s been generally downwards for about 25 years now actually, still waiting on that oscillation. Assuming that just because things kept getting better up until the 90s so they must start getting better again soon is the kind of attitude that’s enabled capitalism to run rampant and ruin our society and our planet.
Assuming that just because things kept getting better up until the 90s so they must start getting better again soon is the kind of attitude that’s enabled capitalism to run rampant and ruin our society and our planet.
Fucking right
They were lucky to be born in a period of relative wealth, and most don’t get why it’s more difficult these days, but they are not responsible for the fact that you get generations have it harder then them.
Those who have all the power are very happy when the plebs fight among themselves you know.
A lot of boomers stand in the way of change and are ULTRA shitty about it
but they are not responsible for the fact that you get generations have it harder then them.
Are you kidding? The people who are responsible are almost all boomers
True but also who was voting in Regan? John Howard? Everyone was happy to vote in the social rapists for a cheap paycheque as long as their specific demographic wasn’t getting raped and now we’re all paying the price.
Who do you think it is that voted for unrestrained capitalism and has been its most ardent crusaders for 50+ years?
Phone calls and in person died off in the late 2000s. There was still the occasional HR with public access but it was more: use one of the computers right over there. Nope, keep that resume, input that information at the application station.
By the early 2010s, those were gone. No one knows where the door to HR is now. That knowledge has been lost to all but the few who work there. The phone was also disconnected at that time.
our HR basally begs us for personal references once every few months, even offering referral bonuses for like $1000.
and almost none of our hires come from that. they are mostly blind hires for entry level. for mid and upper level they are head hunted.
we tried temp to hire through but those employees were almost always fired for being total disasters.
It’s called a recession, can be caused by indiscriminate tariffs and trade wars, chaotic policies. If someone nearing retirement but not able to afford it gets laid off ….
We’ve been in a constant stage of recession/silent depression since the 2008 collapse
Don’t forget the dot com bubble and 9/11 collapses before 2008
