There is a middle ground. A lot of younger people are legit shit at applying for jobs, like they don’t even read the job description and put the the position title… they just throw up a wall of buzzwords and copy-paste it and call it a day, showing the application reviewers they have no legit interest in the job.
Also a lot of them are awful interviewers, again, focusing on vibes and buzzwords and demonstrating a lack of legitimate interest. And yeah that might work if you want a bullshit job for a bullshit company, but for more serious work it’s a huge red flag.
Just having basic social skills to like, demonstrate that you know what the company does and that you’d be interested in it’s mission, as basic as that is, sets your application above like 95% of the rest of them. You don’t have to be fancy… you just have to demonstrate basic information processing and acknowledgement skills…
because the lemmy userbase thinks everything isn’t their fault. they are hapless victims who should never have to learn or try or progress… clearly if only AI didn’t exist… they’d be be making 300K a year and own 3 homes…
Edit: Going to just bold ‘vast majority’ since people seem eager to ignore that part of what I wrote.
I strongly disagree.
Unless you’re born into a wealthy zip code (and your zip code of birth correlates strongly with whether or not you become successful), you have four choices as far as I can see it: Crime, a lifetime of debt for a college degree, risk death in the military, or work a dead-end job until you inevitably can’t afford to live.
That is what the vast majority of young people are facing. They want to work, but even if they get a job, it doesn’t keep up with the cost of living and neither ruling party is going to lift a finger to help them.
The college degree also does not guarantee you’re not working a dead-end job! I know graduates doing things like driving school busses, working as a barista, and just working in an apartment building office. No guarantee you’ll find anything in your desired field
We attended the college scholarship presentations for my kids. A bunch of scholarship folk from the colleges spoke about “Just apply” that’s all it takes.
Because millions in unclaimed scholarships are left on the table because nobody applied.
One guy got the women’s sport scholarship because no women applied for it, so the school was like what the hell might as well give it to somebody.
Yeah but just apply implies a support system. Those kids dont just apply because they dont have parents who can force them to do it. And a ton of kids millions of them, did sit there and apply for the scholarships and now they’re baristas and uber drivers. Because even if everyone went to college for free, not everyone can be a lawyer or a doctor, we need greater numbers of baristas and uber drivers than we need numbers of lawyers and doctors, the economics just doesn’t work.
So again, what are the 95% of us who arent in the top 5% supposed to do, just be poor forever fuck us?
Also, uni doesn’t have to be about career, it’s personal growth. There is a good book, which I forget the title right now, about how countries that stop teaching the arts start to have less critical thinkers in society and just become factory minded workers with no questioning of the capitalistic nature their country is pushing onto them to only increase profit.
So really we should all have free schooling to grow as a society, even if your passion is making the perfect latte
Trades is the best bet. I left Uni, and went into a trade. At 23 I had a house, wife, car, and baby on the way—Trades can be surprising lucrative, and can lead into other avenues via the variety of skills learned.
For example, now I train engineers how to use their software or how to solve the technical problem they face via the sequrnce of tools in the engineering program.
In some cases I’m earning more than the engineers. Their paper might open other oversea jobs though.
You asked: What are the rest of us supposed to do LOL. If you don’t like local policy, and in a country thwt isnt going to change, move to a country that has free Uni. There are many like Germany where as long as you show you are integrating you can get school paid.
What, you mean the LLM that filters out everything without the bullshit and buzzwords before it ever gets to a human? 'Cause that’s the only “reviewer” a carefully-written but not machine-optimized application is ever gonna see.
There is a middle ground. A lot of younger people are legit shit at applying for jobs, like they don’t even read the job description and put the the position title… they just throw up a wall of buzzwords and copy-paste it and call it a day, showing the application reviewers they have no legit interest in the job.
Also a lot of them are awful interviewers, again, focusing on vibes and buzzwords and demonstrating a lack of legitimate interest. And yeah that might work if you want a bullshit job for a bullshit company, but for more serious work it’s a huge red flag.
Just having basic social skills to like, demonstrate that you know what the company does and that you’d be interested in it’s mission, as basic as that is, sets your application above like 95% of the rest of them. You don’t have to be fancy… you just have to demonstrate basic information processing and acknowledgement skills…
The interest is in getting paid, not the work itself.
Great. then you can work for shitty employers
I mean yeah I do work for shitty employers cause they at least pay decent even if they don’t do anything else right
right, because you’re only there for the paycheck.
those of us who work for good employers are here for more than the paycheck.
Why are you booing him? He’s (kind of) right!
Lot of young idiots out there because of terrible parenting.
because the lemmy userbase thinks everything isn’t their fault. they are hapless victims who should never have to learn or try or progress… clearly if only AI didn’t exist… they’d be be making 300K a year and own 3 homes…
Edit: Going to just bold ‘vast majority’ since people seem eager to ignore that part of what I wrote.
I strongly disagree.
Unless you’re born into a wealthy zip code (and your zip code of birth correlates strongly with whether or not you become successful), you have four choices as far as I can see it: Crime, a lifetime of debt for a college degree, risk death in the military, or work a dead-end job until you inevitably can’t afford to live.
That is what the vast majority of young people are facing. They want to work, but even if they get a job, it doesn’t keep up with the cost of living and neither ruling party is going to lift a finger to help them.
The college degree also does not guarantee you’re not working a dead-end job! I know graduates doing things like driving school busses, working as a barista, and just working in an apartment building office. No guarantee you’ll find anything in your desired field
Good point. And even doctors and lawyers are finding it a struggle to live, because of the debt burden.
Or just be smart, hard working, and get scholarships by going to schools that offer generous aid packages.
And where does that leave the rest of us mere mortals, you know the 99% of us humans that don’t enjoy the smell of their own farts
We attended the college scholarship presentations for my kids. A bunch of scholarship folk from the colleges spoke about “Just apply” that’s all it takes.
Because millions in unclaimed scholarships are left on the table because nobody applied.
One guy got the women’s sport scholarship because no women applied for it, so the school was like what the hell might as well give it to somebody.
Yeah but just apply implies a support system. Those kids dont just apply because they dont have parents who can force them to do it. And a ton of kids millions of them, did sit there and apply for the scholarships and now they’re baristas and uber drivers. Because even if everyone went to college for free, not everyone can be a lawyer or a doctor, we need greater numbers of baristas and uber drivers than we need numbers of lawyers and doctors, the economics just doesn’t work.
So again, what are the 95% of us who arent in the top 5% supposed to do, just be poor forever fuck us?
Also, uni doesn’t have to be about career, it’s personal growth. There is a good book, which I forget the title right now, about how countries that stop teaching the arts start to have less critical thinkers in society and just become factory minded workers with no questioning of the capitalistic nature their country is pushing onto them to only increase profit. So really we should all have free schooling to grow as a society, even if your passion is making the perfect latte
Trades is the best bet. I left Uni, and went into a trade. At 23 I had a house, wife, car, and baby on the way—Trades can be surprising lucrative, and can lead into other avenues via the variety of skills learned.
For example, now I train engineers how to use their software or how to solve the technical problem they face via the sequrnce of tools in the engineering program.
In some cases I’m earning more than the engineers. Their paper might open other oversea jobs though.
Dude we’re not talking about personal advice, we’re talking about policy, what’s a good idea for one person to do cannot be a social policy.
You asked: What are the rest of us supposed to do LOL. If you don’t like local policy, and in a country thwt isnt going to change, move to a country that has free Uni. There are many like Germany where as long as you show you are integrating you can get school paid.
What, you mean the LLM that filters out everything without the bullshit and buzzwords before it ever gets to a human? 'Cause that’s the only “reviewer” a carefully-written but not machine-optimized application is ever gonna see.
No.