Didn’t care when the arts and humanities were being scraped dry, but suddenly they’re all coming out against it now that they’re going after the sciences
Wtf is a STEM bro? That’s not something I’ve ever heard of until this post.
Lmao look at all the nerds you pissed off with this one bahahaha. “I’m not a brooooo”
Bro!! 😂
“STEM bros”? I didn’t know being introverted physics dept guys made you a “bro”. I missed out on all of those frat parties I guess.
this has been a thing well before “ai” - search for a domain in arin or internic or others back in the day, pass on it, and tomorrow hrm it’s no longer available.
Nerds ≠ techbros.
One has been publishing research about environmental impact of generative AI datacenters since 2019.
The other has been going on twitter talking about how “chatgpt will replace the artists.”
One invents math that can recognize cancer cells.
The other applies it to security cameras for the surveilance state.
In general, the people most critical of AI have been those that trained their own one at home for fun, and knew from beginning how fucking overhyped it is.
Cal Newport does a great job illuminating the distinction between the marketing hype and the technical reality. I’m sure most here are familiar with his views, but if not: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=jxM35ij5VGg
What’s happening here? I’m out of the loop… Who is Terry Tao? Who didn’t care about arts and humanities? Who is destructdisc?
He’s considered one of the greatest mathematicians alive, if not the best. Youngest to compete in the international math olympiad, bronze at age 10 in 1986, silver in 87, and gold in 88. Got his phd at 20, became the youngest full professor at 24 at UCLA, and was the youngest to earn the fields medal at 31.
Math prodigy that was taking univetsity level classes at age 9. At some point said AI is like slightly-worse-than-decent math graduate.
Capitalism destroying community and embracing individuality which is the antithesis of human evolution.
Who woulda thunk?
AI divided us like few things before. Musicians cry out because AI steals their music while using AI generated backdrop animations on their tours and academics use ChatGPT to summarize things but become outraged when their work is fed into the machine. Lets hope tech bro audacity will unite us against them the same way they divided us.
basically everyone thinks their work doesn’t deserve to be done shittily by llms but doesn’t mind doing someone else’s that way.
Sadly that seems to be the case but maybe they’ll come around and work together in their shared hatred for big tech eventually. Maybe this lesson can teach us to be more considerate towards each other as a society.
100000% yes.
Can we keep the well-deserved took-you-long-enoughs for AFTER we deal with the crisis at hand, though?
We need all the help we can get.No, we cannot.
Understandable, have a nice day
You know for a bunch of highly educated people, it’s quite dumb of them to not realize this was going to happen.
to not realize this was going to happen
Except that they did.
Exhibit B: Weapons of Math Destruction (published in 2016)
Then why they only complaining now?
you’re only hearing their voice now…
It looks like they ignored their own voice and went along with it anyways.
Because same field of math research gave us cancer prediction. It was the billionaires that chose which usage to fund.
Also see: Artists still using windows and adobe to draw harry potter fanart, which they post on twitter and instagram. They been directly funding generative AI.
only complaining now
But… they did complain before
(published in 2016)
And went along with it anyways, your point actually makes them seem dumber then I’d stated. especicly since the impact of this was brought up before.
Fun fact, Upton Sinclair published The Jungle over 100 years ago and people are still dying from contaminated food.
:(
Live by the slop, die by the slop. Zero sympathies.
“STEM” bros? What the fuck are you smoking, OP?
Being against LLMs should mean being against science somehow?
Good 70% of stem majors write webnovels and do blender art etc as a second hobby.
Edit - I just stole math’s valor. Don’t post before caffeinating, kids… You’ll look like an idiot in front of the entire Internet.
‘M’ checking in. Our orthopedics subset are definitely ‘bros’.Do S, T, and E have a ‘bro’ subset, too?i’m gonna have to tag you as [needs twice as much caffeine as he thinks. like me]
Do…do you think the “M” stands for “Medicine?”
I knew better than that. This is what happens when I start posting the second I wake up.
I’m gonna go find a corner to hide in and suck down some coffee while I contemplate my shame.
Healthcare is part of Science, right?
There was no rationale that went into that comment - posting while coming to grips with waking up is a horrible idea.
Oh, whatever. You’re too hard on yourself!
M is math. STEM bros used to be called nerds, but that’s a reclaimed positive term now I guess?
…I shouldn’t post this early in the morning.
My brain will turn on soon, promise.
I thought it was funny. Something something doctors and their egos, but in an innocent way. :D
Dude I thought I was being completely unironic. Like, my sleep deprived brain saw that M and it was like a drunken stupor “my career field starts with an M!!” …and that’s the extent of the thought that went into it.
dude, you’re not in STEM under M for Medicine, you’re under S for Sleepy. keep up.
There is no such concept as STEM bros. Science community has its own problems but being generally anologous to tech bros or fintech bros is not it. Being very strongly curiousity driven, they may indeed be oblivious to how something fucks up other parts of the society but that is very far removed from trying to abuse technology to gain billions. Not that there isn’t an intersection, there is, but not big enough to warrant a generalization. In any case if the issue is billionaires fucking up research for money, they will more often be on your side against the billionaires then not (open science movement was one such reaction). But they would rather free AI from billionaire domination then reject it out right.
There is no such concept as STEM bros
tech bros
What does the T in STEM stand for
what does the S, E, M in STEM stand for?
Yea I work in science and there absolutely are STEM bros that are only interested in tricking funding bodies and making up stuff for grants and have zero interest in actually producing good research.
OpenAI stole research out from under mathematicians’ noses and now suddenly all the STEM bros are very hot and bothered
Didn’t care when the arts and humanities were being scraped dry, but suddenly they’re all coming out against it now that they’re going after the sciences
Simply not true.
Exhibit A: I Will Fucking Piledrive You If You Mention AI Again
Holy shit this article is fucking gold. Everyone should read it.
It’s a classic.
I balked at the length of it, but then I started reading, and holy shit, you’re right. Such prose! The finale slew me.
With God as my witness, you grotesque simpleton, if you don’t personally write machine learning systems and you open your mouth about AI one more time, I am going to mail you a brick and a piece of paper with a prompt injection telling you to bludgeon yourself in the face with it, then just sit back and wait for you to load it into ChatGPT because you probably can’t read unassisted anymore.
He appeared on a podcast last month:
great watch, thanks!
I also have a podcast. The latest guest is Ed Zitron. Come listen to us spew vitriol for an hour and a half.
I guess anyone who likes the article is going to love the podcast, then.
I understand and do agree with the technical points made in the article. I do find the use of gratoutious violence kinda offputting, ngl
Tissue?
It’s called satire
remember: the cloud is just somebody else’s computer
