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        Except it would take 3 literal months to download it (stupid home internet with a 1.25TB data cap)

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          Goodness, do you live in Australia or something? Are there any better options, or can you not afford them? My spoiled and priveleged self has trouble comprehending a data cap on my internet plan.

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          And if you go to the store and buy it in person, it’ll be a empty cd case with a serial key to download.

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            or with a CD that installs a downloader, that is actually a background service always starting with the OS, and a few other bloatware to not waste CD space

            except that almost nobody has a CD drive anymore. so it must be a pendrive instead that was forced to read-only access

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          Can I ask what country so I can avoid it like the plague?
          Ah yes, good ol’ US of A. Why am I not surprised?

          My ISP recently introduced data caps on unlimited (they throttle you to 4Mbit if you go past ~300GB or 500, not sure). I already wanted to leave but that’s really lighting a fire under me to move the fuck out of here.

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            ? I’ve never had a data cap and I’m in the US. Many areas now have alternatives to cable/DSL. I have fiber-backed Ethernet at the wall, and my city is rolling out muni-fiber, and we’re honestly kind of late to the game compared to my local area.

            Shop around, maybe you have more options now.

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          Ah shit. That would suck. Personally I could start the download and have the game the next day. Which is roughly what it took to torrent a 4 GiB game back in the day if there weren’t enough seeds.

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        250GB tops or it will be bs.
        GTA5 already had about 90-110GB of raw gamedata. I think right now it’s 150GB.

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      Technically the Pro Max already starts at 256 GB (starting with the 15 series iirc). But they simply removed the 128 GB option from the price stack.

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      What do you need 256gb for? You don’t seriously store photos and videos on your phone… as the only place?

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        My 100GB music library leaves less space than I’d like on a 128GB phone.

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          You really listen to that much music that often? I assume that’s compressed as well, because I don’t think there’s a point to high-bitrate media when you’re going to play it through phone speakers or Bluetooth.

          Personally I just use plain old FM radio in my car, a couple dozen songs on my workout playlist for the gym, and YouTube streams for work.

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            Personally I just use plain old FM radio in my car

            Great if you only want to listen to music half the time.

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          that’s what expandable storage (i.e. sd card) is for.

          oh your phone does not know what that is?

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          that’s what expandable storage (i.e. sd card) is for.

          oh your phone does not know what that is?

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          Fuck yeah! I NAS swap with a friend. I have my house NAS which syncs to my other one at his place and he does the same. (4 total)

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        Yeah, I don’t get this. I still haven’t used more than ~115GB in years that I’ve been on iPhone. All my photos are in RAW (since supported) and I’ve got a huge lossless (or better) music library.

        Granted I don’t have 100% of everything on my phone all the time, but even my iCloud storage is pretty low.

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          I guess since I have Apple Music I don’t have very much on my phone at any one time.

          Most of my heavy usage are my Virtual Machines. But really, those don’t all have to be on at once. Am I really using windows that often?

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            I use YouTube Music and the only time I download music for offline is if I’m going to fly somewhere.

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              Oh shit, I have a flight later this month. Thank you for reminding me to download the music!!

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        Not at all. The price of storage has plummeted so much that most video games comfortably use ~100GB for large games and don’t care because even SSD storage is extremely cheap.

        If you don’t believe me, here’s a post on Reddit that shows it off pretty well.

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          There’s two ways to take that statement. The price of a hard drive will remain the same, or the price per memory unit will remain the same. Price per hard drive remains largely the same. Price per unit of memory drops.

          The only exception here is SSDs are slowly dropping in price to meet magnetic disk drives.

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            Interpreted the other way, I don’t think that makes sense because on the whole storage has always gotten cheaper with time. Hard drives may cost the same, but they’re larger capacity so really this would only work as an argument if hard drive storage space stayed the same and prices remained the same for consumers but went down for manufacturers.

            Also there’s a lot of competition in the space similar to other chips so I don’t see how a company making NAND or platters can afford to sit on their hands like that. The whole point of drive innovation right now is to drive the price per GB down for B2B sales. And that usually translates well to consumer sales too.

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              That’s business logic. Consumer logic is that when things get cheaper they should actually be cheaper.

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                They do get cheaper but the cheaper ones don’t get made because they aren’t worth anything anymore. Like sure you can get a 500GB HDD which used to be a moderately priced option and is now basically trash or free. The prices go down, but the key is that consumers no longer want the old thing either.

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                  Actually those are still available. And I will admit if anyone tried to get me to pay 100 dollars for one now I would probably laugh them out of the room.

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                The actual shells and manufacturing costs aren’t going down meaningfully. Giving you more for the same price is how consumers benefit the most. Especially because consumer demands for storage (among people willing to buy any, at least) keep going up and there isn’t a big market for HDDs that are half the price but 1/4 of the storage.

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          I’m not exactly sure what that chart is using for data sources. Historically every couple of years I’ve bought whatever goes on sale for around $200 and added it to my unraid.

          I was able to pick up exos 14s a couple of years ago. And they’re still not back down to $200.

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            It looks like it depends on the drive size but also I think the pandemic has leveled this out in recent years. Some additional data I found by BackBlaze shows a bit more of the story though they have changed their drive sizes which leads to a more interesting graph.

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          Honestly, nowadays a 100Gb game is small. Games are easily 200+ for the AAA section.

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      I’m optimistic. I’m making numbers out of my butt because I literally can’t remember.

      But I think My 20GB SSD from 2010 was about $100. I used to dualboot.

      Today, I can get a 512GB SSD for $50.

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      For SSDs this has historically not been the case, there’s no way in hell you could buy a 1TB SSD within $200 a decade ago.

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      It’s almost as if oligopolies can manipulate prices regardless of availability

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    32 level “PLC” cells, OMG. How about staying at levels with some durability.

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            So, not that much more expensive, i bet west european countries get near or equal that price, it’s electronics in the US that are cheaper than others (including rich countries). and it’s more that we are poor.

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              That’s decently more expensive! $300-700 difference is pretty significant imo. Like I couldn’t swing that I don’t think, pushes it too expensive

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                It could also be a difference in how sales tax or whatever is presented. I know in the EU, VAT is included in online pricing, whereas sales tax in the US is not. I don’t know how Brazil runs things, but that could explain a chunk of the difference. The US also likely has higher volume for these kinds of things, so prices will likely be lower in the US than Brazil.

                But yeah, it looks to be about 40-50% more expensive, which is substantial. If you’re looking to spend $600-700 on storage, there’s a good chance you can afford another $300-400, you just don’t want to spend that much.

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                  Brazilian system is the most simple: It is already the final price (not counting shipping, which might be many options), with EVERY tax included. Period. What i see is what i pay. Even Aliexpress shows numbers with all taxes included in the final total price now.

                  The Yankee system is honestly both insane and fraudulent, nothing is ever the price that the webpages or stickers show, i always have to guess it’s somewhere between 10% and 20% more. The european system is also more honest, unless they also have other taxes besides VAT that they don’t show.

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      They already exist. $dayjob bought some 64GB ssds. They were about $7500USD per drive.

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        For 64gb? Did you mean tb or is there something unique about these drives?

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    More density means less longevity, less write cycles before the blocks wear out, also decreases the time before Nand leakage can end up corrupting the data. Doesn’t seem like a good thing to me.

    Oh yeah, also more storage space causes complacency with developers who will terribly optimize their games because they don’t have to worry about games not fitting on people’s disks. Think 100GB games is bad it’ll get much worse when they got more free space at their disposal, and worse, the perception that their customers have tons of free space as well.

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      I don’t disagree with you, but on the other hand, this will be a huge boon for people who do things like sail the high seas and wish to keep what they acquire long term. You’re not constantly rewriting in those cases. You’re just slowly (or perhaps not so slowly) filling up the drive. Eventually, it’s essentially read only.

      Considering how much I spent on 6 TB of regular hard drive storage for this reason a few years ago, I’d be all for affordable 8 TB SSDs.

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        I recently bought a 5TB hard drive. It’s funny how that sounds like a lot of space until you fill it up and find yourself eyeing another.

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          Yep, I can’t afford any more storage. I’ve had to start curating and weeding, which is a shame because I know there are things I’d probably eventually revisit. Oh well. So long, Duckman.

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          if I may ask, what kinds of things are you storing? my computer has only 500gb, my phone has 128gb, and I pay a small fee for 100gb of cloud storage for photos. sometimes I feel like I’m running out of space but it’s never a real problem for me. so I’m just curious because I’m having trouble imagining what I’d even fill up 5tb with.

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            I’m the person in the thread before the person who asked, but I’m in the same boat. In my case: videos, radio shows and comics.

            A 4-season TV series in 1080p can easily take up 50-100 gb.

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            My iCloud Photos is 1.2TB

            Admittedly I should prune junk out, but RAW photos from real cameras are big and I’m not giving them up. Same with videos from my DJI.

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          There are plenty of games that you can’t buy on Gog or Steam even today (like any emulation ISO from console games), and sharing is caring for others that can not afford it.

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          I’m talking about things like movies and TV shows, not games. In fact, if you aren’t careful (or just have a game that doesn’t allow you to choose where it saves its data), you could have the write cycle issue with games.

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      Thinking about it, it would be nice if when formatting a partition on mlc based drives, you could specify the number of bits per cell used. So an 8tb QLC drive could be formatted as a 2tb SLC for those who want the resilience, without having to commit to it permanently.

      I’m sure there are technical reasons that would be difficult, but everything started out difficult until we figured it out.

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      For the first part, as long as it isn’t too bad and it gets detected, and has methods for mitigating damage from losses, that’s fine. If you get a lot more capacity but lose some over time, you still have more capacity.

      For the latter, yeah it does but do they even care now? Personally, I don’t play any games that large really anyway, so it doesn’t effect me. Let them lose you as a customer too if that’s an issue and they surpass how much you’ll put up with.

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        The first part also applies to cold storage, like if you leave it off for a while and data will degrade without power as electrons leak out. Something that might be a concern for data archival on these drives.

        I don’t think they do care now, I’m not super worried about it but I might be if I wanted to get a PC port of a game that isn’t on PC now, where the old one is well optimized but the new one isn’t. Was the story when I got Okami HD on PC, it’s insane how they went from a game which came on an 8GB disc for PS3 and it’s 34GB on PC, I know they included 4K in the PC one but the fact it’s so much insanely larger makes me think a lot of it was wasted space by not compressing what could be compressed.

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    Excellent, I needed more space for cookies, malware and games that suddenly require 500GB of free space. I’ll have that thing full in no time.

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        Not sure which ones are AAA slop. I play online every Monday with a friend in the UK. Here are some of the games we’ve played:

        Grim Dawn, Diablo 4, Borderlands, Borderlands 2, Borderlands 3, Borderlands the presequel, Tiny Tina’s Wonderland, and currently we’re playing Aliens Elite something.

        But I have played other games with a different group of friends online.

        Man, the formatting sucks. There was a carriage return after every game. Why is it there for the paragraphs and gone for the lists?

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          Most of those are in the 30-60GB range IIRC. So if you keep 5 installed, you’re looking at 200GB or so.

          What OP is referring to is things like COD that are 300GB or so.

          Why is it there for the paragraphs and gone for the lists?

          You need a blank line between paragraphs, so:

          First paragraph.
          
          Second paragraph.
          

          If you want a list, add a hyphen or asterisk, like so, and you won’t need the blank line:

          - item one
          - item two
          

          Renders as:

          • item one
          • item two
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          Not sure which ones are AAA slop. I play online every Monday with a friend in the UK. Here are some of the games we’ve played:

          Grim Dawn

          Diablo 4,

          Borderlands,

          Borderlands 2,

          Borderlands 3,

          Borderlands the presequel,

          Tiny Tina’s Wonderland,

          and currently we’re playing Aliens Elite something.

          But I have played other games with a different group of friends online.

          Man, the formatting sucks. There was a carriage return after every game.