• pitaya@lemmy.zip
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    that’s the second time I’ve seen a deaf emoji used seemingly out of context, can someone please tell me what it means

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    Damn it. As soon as FIFA overturned the red card ob the behalf of Trumpty. I was like “Finally, a chance to get in on the corruption. Time to place all my bets on Team USA.”

    Now, I am fucking broke.

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    @belgium, on behalf of the world : Thank you and well done! Whoever wins the cup, you are the team of the tournament !

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        You’re right but also extremely wrong:

        Unbeknownst to most, Belgium was one of the absolute WORST colonial powers back in the day, which deserves all the condemnation in the world.

        King Leopold II was probably the worst colonialist oppressor of all time.

        That being said, MODERN DAY Belgium isn’t doing any of that, much less the national football team.

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          History doesn’t exist in a vacuum I’m afraid. If an entity, whether it’s a person or a nation, commits atrocities and then stops doing so after becoming rich from it, can we call that justice?

          Leopold II turned the Congo Free State into his personal, horrific rubber-and-ivory fiefdom from 1885 to 1908 and used the profits to bankroll massive architectural and infrastructure projects in Brussels, Antwerp, and Ostend (e.g., the Cinquantenaire park, the Royal Palace of Laeken, and the Antwerp Central Station).

          The profits were deeply integrated into Belgium’s financial and industrial sectors.

          DRC’s vast diamond wealth currently flows straight to Antwerp, meaning Belgium still captures the high-value “refining and trading” end of the supply chain, while the DRC is left with the environmental and human cost of raw extraction.

          Major Belgian conglomerates, or companies born out of the colonial structure (like Umicore, formerly Union Minière du Haut-Katanga), transitioned from colonial owners to powerful multinational players. They still hold significant strategic advantages and interests in extracting critical minerals like cobalt and copper from Central Africa.

          When the DRC gained independence in 1960, its first democratically elected Prime Minister, Patrice Lumumba, wanted to nationalize the country’s resources so the Congolese people could finally benefit from them. Fearing the loss of mineral access, Belgian officials (with the help of the CIA) were deeply complicit in Lumumba’s overthrow and assassination, replacing him with Mobutu Sese Seko, a brutal dictator who let Western corporations keep extracting wealth while plunging his own country into poverty.

          Colonialism may have come to an end but Belgium is still a neocolonialist nation. So we can’t even give it the benefit of saying that it has stopped.

          This is for informational purposes only. European colonial history is not well taught in the Western world so it’s important for people to realize that just because it was overlooked in their education that doesn’t mean it’s really ended.

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            Colonialism only took on modern forms. It’s always been might makes right.

            Now with some countries slowly rising from its shadows, a lot of people in the west are pissing their pants that the tables might turn. Even if we’re a very long stretch away from that, and climate change is ironically affecting us less than the so-called global south.

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              It may not be as long a stretch as it seems.

              Climate change is in many ways an extension of neocolonialism ie. localizing benefits while externalizing harms. Western countries, despite making up 20% of the global population, are responsible for 50% of global cumulative emissions.

              Back during the Earth Summit in 1992:

              “In view of the different contributions to global environmental degradation, States have common but differentiated responsibilities. The developed countries acknowledge the responsibility that they bear in the international pursuit of sustainable development in view of the pressures their societies place on the global environment and of the technologies and financial resources they command.”

              Based on this, the Rio declararion explicitly stated that developed countries must take the lead in combating climate change and its adverse effects.

              As we all know, these responsibilities were ultimately betrayed

              The world has a way of rebalancing itself. We may not see a complete rebalancing in our lifetimes but the process has already begun.

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            Colonialism has generally never played nice for the conquered, however, some, like the Romans, and to a certain extent the Moors, Ottomans, Spanish, and others were somewhat integrating, excesses and plunder non withstanding, and contributed to the conquered. Belgian Congo was pure evil.

            I have Belgian blood, BTW.

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            This is for informational purposes only

            Fair enough. I was about to be snarky about blaming the football team for it, so thanks for heading that fruitless discussion off at the pass 😁

            European colonial history is not well taught in the Western world so it’s important for people to realize that just because it was overlooked in their education that doesn’t mean it’s really ended.

            Too true.

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          I thought it was pretty much general knowledge that Belgium was one of the most terrible colinial powers in europe?

          I do see the lack of relevance of that for that football game though. It is like talking about the genocide(s) the US was built upon, just because of a football game.

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          Leopold the First was some random minor German nobility who was placed on the ‘throne’ iirc.

          His son was one of history’s more horrific, while still utterly incompetent, monsters.

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            Europe’s royal shuffling is rife with things like that. Most royal families have blood ties with each other, and historically have agreed to place one of theirs on another countries throne to keep collective hold on the continent.

            “The German Kaiser (Wilhelm II), Russian Czar (Nicholas II), and English King (George V) were all first cousins. Their grandmother was England’s Queen Victoria, making the English and German kings first cousins. The English and Russian kings were also first cousins, as their mothers were sisters.”

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      You’d think he’d have learned his lesson from the Knicks game. I mean no, obviously he didn’t learn his lesson, but other people should have predicted what would happen because he destroys everything he touches.

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        You’d think he’d have learned his lesson from the Knicks game

        That’s implying he’s capable of learning the lesson and not just lashing out because that dementia-ridden puddle where a brain is usually located can’t comprehend he’s not 100% right all the time

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      most likely, the usa team isnt going to be taken seriously now, if any of the players as aspires to become a player for another country, if thats even possible.

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        Actually our team only has 7 players that are from Major League Soccer.

        If someone has duel citizenship, isn’t good enough to make the national team where they live, they will definitely be able to make the USA team.

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    As an American I approve.

    The US team played like shit and our corrupt pedophile president pulled strings to alter the odds.

    And the last thing we need is another win the Pedophile-In-Chief can steal valor from and portray as his own for political gain.

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      It’s a shame, as there was actually some goodwill towards the US team from the rest of the world, out of respect to the hosts and an ability to separate them from the insanely run government. Then he steps in, starts fucking with the rules and most of that evaporated.

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      it only further deligitimizes a US football team playing against other countries in the future, since nobody will take them seriously now, and likely call out the us team out more once THE PEDOPHILE is gone from WH.

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    So even when the usa cheats they dont win. Love to see this pattern in their trade behaviour.

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      the sad thing is that the team actually didn’t cheat, their fucking president did. I feel for those poor guys in the US national team that have to bear the shame of their flatulant president cheating in their name.

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        Well their coach had the option to not use the player in question. So it’s partly on them as well.

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          I imagine that would have been a tough situation. It was a clearly bad call overturned by the review panel. If you remove Trump from the equation, it may have happened anyway.

          Note: Not debating how rediculous this is, and happy there can’t be future tainting of games from it.

          Edit: I pull this back. Had not realized this had never happened before.

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            It was not a bad call, and it was not overturned.

            The cheating USA player committed a foul and still has the red card for that. The cheating USA player still has the red card, but in an unprecedented move the suspension is deferred. Because the USA cannot compete at an international tournament without resorting to cheating.

            This would not have happened without the United States being an openly corrupt nation, and this will taint every game that the United States team ever plays in the future.

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              Most people seemed to agree it should have been a yellow card because he wasn’t capable of seeing what he was doing. Careless vs malicious.

              But these reviews do happen in the premier and euro leagues. Just FIFA hasn’t done it before. And we all know fifa is a shit show anyway, now we just have more Trump induced proof of it.

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            It was the first time in 96 years that a world cup red card punishment had been overturned. This was american cheat karen energy.

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    Seem like everyone got successfully distracted over the epstein files and the ongoing genocide and wars

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    US played badly. That first goal was just embarrassing. The third one was even worse. Belgium absolutely dominated.

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      The fourth was extremely embarrassing as well, although who cares at that point. There’s a defender there watching Lukaku literally flat-footed, even though there was nobody else around for him to guard.

      At least with the header we had two defenders closely marking the guy, even though that just made it an even more spectacular goal.

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    What’s funny about this to me is that some of the US fans were talking like they thought they had a real shot this year. They always think that the American team is better than it really is. But, they were knocked out in the Round of 16, which is normally the first knockout round of the World Cup.

    Even a Belgian team with almost no members of the “golden generation” was much better than them.

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      That’s the thing. They thought they were taking to the pitch as equals.

      The US had an unsurprisingly easy ride to this point in the competition but came up against a genuinely decent team. Bragging about narrowly beating a team ranked 44th.

      The shenanigans just added to the drama, not their chances of winning and that’s the real shame, they could have gone out with some honour and class and, instead, Trump made sure they went out as villains.

      It was genuine wrestling promo nonsense.

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      They’re 'Muricans

      They think they are special, just because

      I mean, they’re “special”…

      But they genuinely can’t understand why the civilised world sneers at them

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        A national self-perception steeped in exceptionalism has them convinced it can’t be anything but envy.

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      Most people in the US didn’t realize there was even a US team in the World Cup at all. Any who thought they had a “real shot” are definitely in the minority, and they exist in every country.

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        FOOTBALL(soccer) isnt as popular as in EU or the rest of the world, less resources devoted to that sport than in the EU. the people in my university in the states that played soccer aspires to be in a EU league, or at least one that plays in the EU more, they know the US teams are shit.

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        The kinds of people I’m talking about are ones who have a local MLS team whose matches they attend, but they also have a favourite European team… and yet, somehow they don’t realize the vast gulf in quality between a player for Real Salt Lake and Real Madrid.

        Timothy Tillman? He wasn’t good enough for any club in the Bundesliga, but he plays for LAFC. He should do fine in a midfield battle against Kevin de Bruyne and Youri Tielemans!

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      some people saw the usa beat some low ranking fifa teams and thought they’d win the whole world cup🤣🤣