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Order wrong.
I autorun paru -Syyu while my computer is in the process of booting up /S
So Debian/Ubuntu still can’t into auto update?
sudo zypper dup
As someone who works on Windows daily… this is so true. One of the things that really annoys me with Windows is being able to reliably do updates. Running any of the update stuff, seems more like a suggestion and if Windows deems your request worthy, it might SLOWLY do something.
In Windows it would be
winget upgrade -all
I’m pretty sure.
Winget update --all
But yes, this updates any packages distributed by Ms store and winget repos. As an IT professional, I love winget.
My first introduction to winget as a sysadmin was horrible. Why Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, decided to make winget reliant on the user environment still baffles me. Why on earth would they require admin rights for some commands if you need to have logged into the system once?! Even the user created for LAPS does not have that requirement!
Even getting it to run through a service on system level requires you to find the nondescript directory of the executable (which may or may not he the same on other devices!) To get basic functionality going. But even with the --ignore-unknown flag (because it is not able to determine the version of packages when run through a service) winget will refuse to update without a user environment.
Winget is a step in the right direction… but man it is SO SLOW. If PowerBI Desktop has an update, it is actually taking me 20+ minutes to update a handful of apps.
I just like that it can be scripted and run during off hours.
Which will try to update all 3 apps that are available via winget. It will break one of them. It has 50% chance of bonking some drivers.
More than 3 apps. https://winget.run/
But Window’s software incompatibility doesn’t change anything.
4315 packages
It’s not nothing, and the effort is commendable. Def more than three. Dare I say it’s even more than five.
Yet, in a grand scheme of things, it’s indistinguishable from three.If NT is given as much time as the Linux kernel has had to mature then I’m sure they’ll have more packages built for it over the years.
Didn’t know we were still doing apt-get
I have a lot to learn
iirc, apt-get is the version to use in scripts. They keep the input & output consistent so that it won’t break things.
Regular old apt is for humans to use at the command prompt, and that’s what I use all the time.
How is apt better for humans?
Yeah why do I still see this everywhere
haven’t used linux in decades but used to use aptitude over apt-get
Then windows says “Undoing Changes” because its shit software doesn’t work
KDE Plasma recommends applying updates at reboot like Windows for stability. In fact, that is how it does them by default
Wait, plasma does your system updates? I don’t think it’s an appropriate chain of commands
Discover is integrated with the rest of Plasma, so if you run your upgrades via Discover on Plasma, it’ll use Plasma settings. The same goes if you update with the little button in Plasma’s taskbar
KDE Plasma does what I tell it to
Sure, what I’m saying is the “windows way” of applying updates isn’t bad and there’s a reason why they do it
Bah!!
Feels aggressive sometimes
And what he’s saying is it’s his life. It’s now or never. No one’s gonna live forever. He just wants to live while he’s alive. It’s. His. Life!
Someone who gets it 🥲
jesse, what the fuck are you talking about
Aaaand… you’re on Debian, so Blender 4.0 just got added to the testing branch. (Blender 4.0 still haven’t been tested for 168 hours of continuous running without touching it)
It’s a good thing system packages (which should follow a conservative update approach if possible to guarantee system stability, unless hardware demands newer packages) and user applications (which you’d usually want to be most up-to-date) are increasingly isolated from each other and mostly able to follow their own schedules. Also improves security and such.
topgrade -yYou’re welcome.
genini update my machine
Because I’m apparently a raging masochist
sorry, usage of this tool has been discontinued, please use [WORSE TOOL WITH DIFFERENT NAME]
(joking but not really, gemini-cli is going to the google graveyard, replaced by antigravity-cli that’s basically the same, but in google’s tradition it launches with less features and also it’s not FOSS)
You misspelled
pacman -SyuNo, you misspelled
zypper dup. But with enough time, you’ll get there.That’s a corporate propaganda that I can’t stand for
Take my angry upvote
I kneel
The only true answer
Every single time I’ve run upgrade on Debian, I’ve bricked my install. I’m sure I’m doing something wrong 😆
I’m probably a big newb, but on my headless Debian machines, major updates screw me up sometimes too.
- “Ah! All my updates can’t be found on the server? Oh we’re done with “Bo-Peep” and moving to “PotatoHead” now? Maybe I should be on the newsletter or something…”
- Change some sources in that one text file I gotta look up every time…
apt update && apt dist-upgrade“Oh, that’s a lot of errors…”
I’m sure it’s not that bad and I’m being dramatic but I do kinda appreciate my rolling OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for this reason lol. I feel like newbies would struggle with that major release upgrade process…
Watch out! People in here looove Debian for some reason
Haha Debian is really cool and I’m glad it’s there! Definitely rock solid! Don’t wanna throw any shade at their very important work. :)
…I’m just too goofy to update it properly sometimes. 😅 Skill issue lol.
Ironically I had numerous discussions with people claiming updates often break rolling distros like Arch, and I’m in the same boat as you - only ever had issues with major upgrades on Debian
Yeah, you better watch what you say; Debian Gang got eyes on you.
I love Debian ha!
Update before upgrade you nonce
Isn’t this how Non-Torvalds Linus bricked his install
C’mon, it’s Debian! Obsolete anyway. Update today, upgrade in a week, not like things gonna change. Perhaps the man forgot the upgrade a week ago, upgraded, and then decided to double-check there’s nothing new anyway. Right?
No, no. You gotta update last to let them marinate for a while before you upgrade. If you upgrade too fast it just doesn’t taste the same.
