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A bit of due diligence may have been helpful in their decision making. Nothing of substance about Trump was not known before the election.
I don’t want to excuse their decision, but want to point out some context. Right-wing media is really effective at throwing out a ton of bullshit to obfuscate reality. The right-wing bubble throws out shit like Democrats having underground pedophile rings being run in DC pizza restaurants. Meanwhile Trump was found to have committed rape by a court.
Many conservative voters either:
- Don’t hear about the second one
- Or hear about both and decide that all news is mostly made up trash like the National Inquirer
its called firehose of falsehood, create many false narratives to the point your opponents dont know how to respond to it, this also doubles internal propaganda the target base wouldnt know what is true or not. and yes its russian strategy, and fox works with putin closely with the propaganda.
another one was pretty much gaza muslims, refuse to vote for biden, eventhough it had no statistical different on the voting numbers before the election.
But then how would they vote by feels when their gut knows the truth & detects fake news a mile away?
After Epstein
Except Americans voted for Trump after Epstein. Everyone knew they were literally partners in crime. It was public knowledge so don‘t tell me anyone can possibly be surprised by this outcome. What a bunch of child rapist supporting hypocrites.
I mean up until recently they were all like, “haha just wait until the list comes out and all you libtards get yours.” Of course, now that trump has made it abundantly clear he’s on it (as opposed to it just being normally clear he was on it before), they’ve split into gullible idiots who feel betrayed and cultish idiots who now think pedophilia is actually not so bad somehow.
pedophilia is actually not so bad somehow.
Reminds me of early South Park and the Michael Jackson fan 😂
trump has GHislaine covering for him, says he dint do anything, do magats actually believe that.
The thing is that not everyone knew.
You have to remember that many of these people grew up in what’s basically a cult. They were brainwashed to believe that everything that didn’t come out of Fox News was a lie from the enemy who wants to destroy them.
Critical thinking and questioning authority were actively punished.
It’s easy to assume that everyone is as informed on politics as you are, but besides the above, many people just don’t care enough to keep up to date with it.
Being irrationally stupid & living in a delusion does that.
huffing gasoline actually
To be fair, they’re INCREDIBLY fucking stupid.
That’s not fair. Lots of Americans across all demographics are incredibly fucking stupid, not just gen Z.
Oh, I didn’t say they weren’t. But everyone who voted for Trump is.
Also everyone who didn’t vote out of protest.
Those people wanted irrelevance, and as far as I’m concerned, they got what they wanted. I don’t waste a single moment of my day thinking about them. For all intents and purposes, they don’t exist. They were pig headed and stubborn before, and they’re certainly not going to change now. Focusing effort on them is a waste of time. Any path to the future goes AROUND nonvoters - not through them.
or voted for trump out of spite, or because of they follow incel grifters.
thats true but gen is getting the short end of the stick right now. plus Alpha is coming of age eventually and they will probably be worst off than Z.
And stubborn to boot.
Why are people so stupid, we’re in the information age ffs!
Also in the misinformation age
Of course, it usually takes me a whole 30 seconds to verify news, I guess that’s too much to ask of people.
The human attention span has been eroding ever since the invention of the radio.
I bet the ancient Greeks said the same thing about the invention of paper.
I have no clue how historically accurate that is, but my point is that humans have been stupid with short attention spans for a very long time
Not the ancient Greeks, but that’s probably because they had parchment and not paper
Actually in the late 1800s people did actually complain about people not being able to use slate anymore since paper was now so much cheaper.
The average person on Lemmy works at a far higher level than the average person in the public. Remember that they have to tell you not to line your baby’s crib with plastic film. They have to tell you that the surface of an oven is hot. It’s all about statistics. Take 10,000 people and some of them are going to do terribly stupid things.
Disinformation even.
Because of people like Zuck, Musk, and whoever is twisting the YouTube algorithm these days. People are manipulable and they used their considerable power to manipulate young men without futures.
40+ years of Right wing propaganda and a hollowing out of our education system?
That’s pretty much the nail on the head.
They feel duped because they were duped. (By the most obvious con man in history.)
This article expresses opinions which are so dumb that it hurts.
Thinking that Trump is “anti-establishment” was fucking stupid to begin with. As a millionaire he is by definition part of the elite.
And if it takes the Epstein case to realize that you have been duped you’re also a bit late to the party. They have been taking everything they can from you and gave it to the rich for months now, and there is no end in sight. Enjoy working those shit jobs for minimal wages. Those that were previously done by immigrants which you wanted to see deported.
Also the whole gullible MAGA male problem is not limited to Gen Z. Being a dumb fuck is a fun activity for the whole family.
It does make the important point that MAGA cultists are not limited to boomers though, which is something a lot of younger people seems to think. Being young doesn’t mean you are immune to the lure of fascism.
These people were brainwashed for decades that their biggest fears are people with darker skin tones ( and the “elite pedophile cabal”). They are happy getting fucked as long as enough of those are getting fucked aswell. I have seen so many repubes getting rock hard over the Gestapo kidnapping people that most of them would ignore Trump having sex with children in the middle of the street.
I really do not see many people in the cult caring about Epstein. While those people exist and are pretty vocal about it, most Trump-fans are so racist and so deeply entrenched in their believes that it will take a miracle to save the U.S.
I do not believe in miracles but i kind of hope for your guys sake and also mine.
( and the “elite pedophile cabal”)
To be fair, that part seems to have turned out to be true (albeit used as a DARVO tactic by said cabal itself).
No that part did not turn out to be true. What turned out be true is that powerful people abuse their abundance of power to protect themselves and other people in power NO MATTER the kind of crime. Wether it be rape, fraud, murder or any other crime. Epstein was a rich, abusive pedophile that tied himself to as many powerful and rich people as possible to protect his evil doing.
but we owned the libs & beat the woke mind virus!
—them probably
Legit how some people think.
Did they not think to ask why the swamp wasn’t drained during the first 4 years Trump was in office?
He was all talk about draining the swamp and building the wall in 2016 lol
these are gen z voters. they’re simple and have short attention spans.
you know. idiots.
Ok boomer
ok.
Most of us were too young to understand what was happening in 2016.
But if they voted in 2024, they could understand by then.
The lead poisoning from vaping is getting to them.
One of the e-cigs studied released more lead during a day’s use than 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.
- UC Davis
I’ve smoked a pack a day for the last 30 years, and I didn’t vote for Trump. 🤷
Well a pack a day for 30 years is “only” about 10957 packs. If a vape is equal to 20 packs a day, you only need to vape for 548 days to have surpassed your lead intake.
So if they’ve been vaping his entire first presidency, then they have at least 40 years worth of lead intake.
lead has a sweet taste to it.
Release the Epstein files
They drained the swamp and replaced it with quick sand
They drained the swamp and now people are starting to realize that the swamp was actually a very complex ecosystem necessary, teeming with diverse life and preventing hurricane storm surge from sploshing all over the eastern seaboard.
They drained the swamp and now they are left with the stench of all the rotting carcasses decaying in briney mud amidst the hottest and driest summer we’ve ever seen.
I mean, the swamp is a real problem in a sense. The mechanism for draining the swamp is voting reform, campaign finance reform (and overturning citizens united), and tighter lobbying regulations. More succinctly, getting money out of politics.
None of which Trump has ever mentioned of course.
don’t forget regulations which prevent gerrymandering and starting a nonpartisan 3rd party to draw district lines!
Ready mix concrete… Which was the Mafia tied quick set concrete that the Mafia had control over the supply of in NYC. Trump became involved because it was the concrete used in Trump towers.
Trump’s mentor Roy Cohn also had Mafia ties as he often acted as their lawyer.
Swamp monster voters shocked Swamp monster won’t drain his home…
I dont think they can claim they were tricked and get off the hook. They were fully aware of what they were voting for and ties to Epstein is absolutely nothing Compared to the damage trump is doing.
My fellow Gen Z are dumbasses everywhere
Do they not think for themselves? Can they not see how trump performed historically? Why did they think he would suddenly be different this time?
Older gen Z guy here. A lot of gen Z guys are dumber than bricks and have been specifically propagandized to since middle school or younger. I was part of the first wave during gamer gate and the only reason I broke free is because I have the perfect mix of autism, superiority complex, and inferiority complex which fully kicked in circa 2015 and overrid the propaganda hard. Basically I looked at Trump and came to the conclusion that I am better than him in every way even with my perpetual fuck up status and thusly anyone who supports him inherently are less than him and thusly less than me.
I broke away on a fluke of batshit insane psychology, most of these younger guys especially have to touch the stove to know it’s hot.
Guess I can’t talk. Gen X was one of the biggest trump supporters, but knowing my cohort I just assumed they were all a bunch of leftover homophobes and racists like a lot of our parents were. I was mostly the same but I also have AuDHD and have an incredibly difficult time with hypocrisy and injustice, so things like religion or anyone claiming superiority over others, regardless of reason, while being an absolute tool themselves really turned me off to the whole racist and homophobic social standards of the day. Took a few years to get away from the casual, unthinking racism - not actually being hard core racist, but the casual kind where you told racist jokes and made sweeping judgements about a group while still maybe going to school with them them and getting along just fine.
I will correct you. A lot of people are dumber than bricks. At least gen z got the internet access when their brains were still free of junk that govs showed on tv 24/7. From my observations it is the older population think that god exists, and stupid fakes on tik tok are reliable source of information. What gen z lack is manners, cause their parents didnt give a shit and just ipaded their way out of parenting
