Morons.

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    I don’t believe that. Anyone dumb enough to vote for trump thinking he would drain the swamp is way too dumb to ever realize he’s been duped.

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      Yeah but the pod cast Bros are waffling a bit and that’s where they get their cues from.

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    Also, I don’t know why so many dickheads talk about “upending” things. It takes a lot to have large complicated working systems.

    Any old asshole (or even something as simple as a virus) can “upend” a system. Why is that a value in itself I will just never understand.

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    Duped? Fucking shitbags.

    Nobody was duped, bamboozled, tricked, or swindled into voted for Trump.

    People knew what Trump was about and chose that.

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      For real. The photos and videos with and quotes about Epstein, the interviews with Stern talking about walking into changing rooms, grabbing 'em by the pussy, all this existed outside of the Epstein files.

      He bankrupted business after business but stayed afloat by being a con-man, and red-state suckers flooded his rallies to juice up on his low IQ rhetoric.

      Now he’s filling his vault with cryptoscam cash from his idiot base buying memecoins and third-rate junk watches, so that his insipid sons can continue the family business of groping, scamming and conning. Trump has replaced Reagan as the new face of the GOP and they LOVE it, because they get to say how much they hate immigrants out loud.

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      They’re shirking responsibility. It’s typical. They gloated the whole way about knowing exactly what they’re vote for.

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    Gen Z “men” voted for Trump because they’re racist sexist homophobic pieces of shit like their fathers are.

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        Elder millennial parents pioneered unparenting. They are insufferable and have the shittiest kids. The iPad generation is how I know them.

        Hopefully young men in this country wake up before the wars Republicans always start turn them into casualty statistics.

        Edit: I’m a younger parent than the people I’m bitching about.

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          You can’t even go out to a brewery in my area without a bunch of unparented kiddos running around your feet.

          Some of them even have their fucking birthdays at the brewery. Happy 8th, Stetson! Your first present this year is watching Mommy and Daddy get hammered and have public arguments.

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            Ah yes the alcoholic parent. We pioneered this one ourselves. Quite the accomplishment. Having never seen our parents slam down Natty Ice each day after work, we had no idea what we were getting into.

            Never before in history, had anyone ever chosen to have a drinking problem, and kids simultaneously.

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              I get that you’re being a sarcastic asshole, but birthdays for 5 and 8 year olds at what is basically a pub is definitely a newer thing. Maybe they always had them in ancient Sumeria or some shit, but here in the states it took a while for places like this to even allow children into them.

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              Yeah, comments like the one you are responding to, are ignorant of history. Millennials drink less than previous generations, as Z drinks less than Millennials. Also what we now call unparenting has been a thing for long time. I have read articles discussing not disciplining your child, and believing their natural curiosity will lead them to what they need to be successful, as a concerning trend, from the 19th century. For a much more modern example, the Simpsons did a bit about this decades ago. In a flashback to Ned’s childhood, he is an absolute terror, and his beatnik/hipster parents are talking to a specialist about it, and say “we’ve tried nothing, and we are all out of ideas”. When I was a teen, in the 90s, there was a massive trend of not disciplining, or properly educating, your child because “you will just be killing their creativity”.

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                Every single generation gets accused of creating the worst children ever, and they were just so much better back in the day. It’s quite literally a tale as old as time.

                The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

                • Plato, ~400 BCE
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                  Ah yes the tale as old as time about people throwing their child’s birthday parties at the local microbrewery and having them run around the establishment and play loud video games on iPads.

                  You’re right, there has been millennia of truck dads and wine moms convening for hazy IPAs and taco trucks while not watching their five year old in public.

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                Yeah, comments like the one you are responding to, are ignorant of history.

                Ah yes, the long, storied history of microbreweries and having birthday parties for children at them.

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    Yeah, no they ain’t. They wanted this and they are happy they got this. Everyone is fucking miserable except those pieces of shit.

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      I mean, they complain about a “male loneliness epidemic” that they themselves have created by being deplorable pieces of ahitm to women and minorities. They can get fucked.

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        As a gen z man who did not vote for Trump, supports the rights of people, and generally is a good person to those around me - generalist arguments like this are poison to your goal. Blaming every man from 14 to 29 (depending on who you ask) is only going to succeed in alienating those men who are not going to be unreceptive of your actual point.

        Age, skin color, gender, sex, sexuality, whatever the combination - blame people for what they do, not the circumstances of their birth.

        The Trump voting neo-nazi chuds can get fucked. Don’t lump young liberals like me in with those cult of personality dicks with lazy generalizations, please.

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          As a millennial male who did not vote for Trump, supports the rights of people, and generally is a good person to those around me - men are generally terrible. I kinda think that, if you can’t recognize this truth, you aren’t as good a person as you think.

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            As a Gen X male (I prefer the term Oregon Trail Generation for those of us close to the cutoff) I echo your statements.

            But on top of that, I think there’s obvious context here that we’re talking about the dummies, not 100% of males of the generation.

            The comment that started this subthread was like a funny sarcastic comment I could hear in real life. Something like “I read about how male gen z trump voters feel duped by him” followed by “well it sounds like male gen z trump voters have bad judgment, lol!”

            I don’t know if that kind of retort is a regional thing or is uh, how do I say this, one of those things that you learn when you are raised by angry conservatives whose primary form of communication is complaining about other people.

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            I reject the notion that men are “generally” terrible because generalizations are lazy intellectually bankrupt ways of othering swaths of people in a way that revokes any ability to fix the real problems.

            Men aren’t terrible inherently, it’s the overblown importance paid to stoicism, acceptance of low emotional maturity, ALIENATION LIKE YOU’RE DOING RIGHT NOW, and poor societal/cultural frameworks for men to seek the help they need that make a lot of men terrible. Men aren’t terrible, but the cultural understanding about what men are and do needs to change.

            Fascists are terrible because they choose every day to be fascists. Men are capable of being terrible the same as women - blame people for what they can change and do not, not what they can’t change.

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            men are generally terrible

            George Floyd was generally terrible?

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    Gen Z was born 1996-2009, the oldest were 19 years old in 2016 when Trump campaigned to drain the swamp, which famously didnt work.

    Only racists and fascists voted for him after 2016. He was surprisingly open about all the terrible things that have happened so far in his second term while on the campaign trail. Although I never listened to his campaign ramblings (nor did a large chunk of his crowd), I didn’t see reports about the drain the swamp slogan after the first term.

    How did it take them 9 years to feel duped?

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      Only racists and fascists voted for him after 2016

      Not only. I know people who don’t fall into either of those groups. They were just gullible and stupid. Sure they were perhaps pressured by someone that falls into the first group (the bigots). Never underestimate peoples proclivity for stupidity.

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        If we were having this conversation in 2017, I’d agree with you. However Trump announced his run over 10 years ago and has been spewing more of the same shit since then. The excuse about not knowing isn’t really valid anymore. The morons who voted for Hitler are called fascist, just as were the bigots who fervently supporter him.

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    Bullshit.
    They are trying to save face, however they’ll still vote for the dregs of humanity next time.

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    Am Gen Z male and I want nothing to do with this fascist treacherous dipshit.

    Maybe its a good thing I didn’t make any friends, at least I won’t have any of my peers stab me in the back.

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        Human nature is a fucking bitch. You can scream till your face turns blue and your average milquetoast American will cognitive dissonance their way back to comfort. That’s why the conservatives don’t care about violating tne constituton. People aren’t a hyper evolved species. We were just apes who learned to drive and do taxes. Of course the population is full of monkey brains wired to make decisions on vibes, that’s how we got here. Empathy is just an evolutionary trait your brain decided was convenient for survival in a group, and some people literally just aren’t capable of giving a shit.

        My point is that no amount of education can force someone to empathize and it’s so god damn frustrating.

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    Gen Z. Too young to have experienced or lived through the Reagan era lies and the Bush lies along with the courting of right-wing fringe politics, from the religious wingnuts to the Tea Partiers. Let’s give conservatism another go! Surely it’ll work this time.

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      Can’t wait to hear about people too young to remember Trump voting against their interests in 20 years or so.

      Then again, maybe voting won’t be a thing in the USA at that point.

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        You’ll get the token candidate and Barron will get 98.5% of the vote. Occasional beatings and investigations into the precincts that get too high of an opposition vote %.