Absolutely useless

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    You have meek fuckers in leadership because that’s who the corporate/wealthy donors want there. If you want to get rid of them you’re going to have to get rid of the money and influence that put them there.

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    They’re not meek, they profit from the status quo.

    These people have no business in governing modern day people, these dinosaurs need to be let go.

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      they benefit and profit by not being the blame of the GOP whom they are also grifting form.

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    Absolutely. I’ve been calling my Senators since Thursday telling them that if they don’t publicly call for Schumer to step down, then they are culpable for his decisions. Supporting fascist enablers is supporting fascism.

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    Here’s the actual story, Schumer relented one day after GOP and DNC megadonors threaten to pull funding away from 10 Democrats.

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    you can try, it’s unlikely to happen.

    Unfortunately we seem to have zero good public speakers in out government, the one thing that actually seems to matter politically, just doesn’t exist anymore, apparently.

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    Only if you’re ready for a decades long campaign to flip towns, cities, districts, and state level legislatures like it took the republicans from 1972 to just a month ago.

    That’s what we’re up against.

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      The US needs to break the two-party system so minor parties and independents actually have a chance at representation.

      Of course there’s no incentive for the establishment to do that. Is there any way for new candidates to run with the major parties, but on a platform to introduce preferential voting when they have the numbers? I don’t know much about factions within US parties, but they certainly exist in my country, and can transform parties quickly if they think they have election-winning appeal.

      It would have to happen bottom-up, as you say, so people can get comfortable with such a big change. Also, people are much more likely to elect independents at a local level.

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    We’re not going to give Donald Trump what he wants, so we’re going to pass this spending bill that gives him everything he wants! That’ll how 'im!

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        So we should just give him everything he asked for on a silver platter with no resistance whatsoever and not offer any meaningful alternatives?

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          It’s like invading Iraq when a bunch of Saudis that hate Iraq attack you. You have to ask yourself “is this exactly what they want me to do?” And then “If I want my revenge, whom should I attack and how?”

          Attacking federal workers on behalf of Trump is not the way to “Stand up to Trump”

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      He’s very dependent on donations from the banking industry, it’s all there on OpenSecrets. Both NY senators voted to end cloture because that’s where wall street is. Gillibrand seems to be avoiding criticism for some reason but it’s the same exact story for her. Wall street was already suffering from the Trump tariff decline and couldn’t take any more from a shutdown.

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      Well he’s a zionist. And the zionists bought both parties but preferred trump in power. So yeah.

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      You mean like recently? No. It’s been a lot more than a feeling since 2016, for me at least. A known fact I guess you could call it?

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      I felt that about the lot of them since the state of the union address.

      they’re giving off strong “fuck you, got mine” vibes.

      I doubt any of them realize the following though.

      What do you get if you take everything away from a person?

      you get what you fucking deserve.

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    no one is this meek. this is collusion. they’re complicit, and it’s not by accident. they’ve always been this way.

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      This is the correct take. Dems are owned by corporations, conservatives are owned by oligarchs (and corporations, but I don’t think corporations are too happy with what’s going on with Trump and Musk)

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        And Musk and Trump are just mad that everyone thinks they are weird spoiled assholes, so they are seeking revenge on…everyone.

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      Democratic politicians suck up Super PAC money the same as Republicans. It’s just that Republicans just do other forms of corruption out in the open because they know their voters are too stupid to notice.

      Trump scamming people with memecoin currency, MAGA doesn’t care.

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      It’s because the Moderates (aka. Republicans in blue suits) control the party and it’s been this way for far too long.

      It’s the same reason Nancy Pelosi kept stepping on AOC’s toes and even worked to keep her out of key committee positions, despite her being popular with a lot of Democratic voters.

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        The DNC is a zionist first organization. Members winning is secondary to zionist rule over America.

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    Call your senators, they can still block this despite Schumers push. The vote is tomorrow. If all republican vote for it, they need 7 dems. 8 with Rand Paul who has said he’ll vote no. (Republicans are not using reconciliation so it needs the the filibuster)

    Many senate dems are publicly coming out against voting for cloture (meaning they won’t vote to let it get through the filibuster). As of what I last read, around 11 10 dems are thought to potentially vote to let it pass filibuster. Most of those are still not sure. We only need a handful more of those to become noes and it will get blocked. Some yeses have flipped to noes because of public pressure. We cannot let up now

    Link to find direct numbers your senators

    https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

    Or call the capitol switch board (202) 224-3121

    House dems are publicly telling the senate not to do this (and it’s not just AOC on this - it’s quite a few of them). Earlier read that 7 Dem state AGs are saying the same. Federal worker unions are telling senate dems not do this. Keep the pressure up

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      One thing to keep in mind though…

      I was outraged a minute ago, but now I’m not sure.

      When the government is shut down, so are the courts, and we need them.

      How one branch is capable to shut down apparently a co-equal branch of the government?

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        Not immediately

        Unlike executive branch agencies, the federal courts can continue operations for about two weeks following a government shutdown. When a shutdown loomed in September 2019, the U.S. federal courts confirmed they could use reserve or carryover funds accumulated from various revenue sources not dependent on Congress, such as case filing fees. When courts are on notice that a government shutdown may be looming, they can take steps to conserve funds by deferring non-critical expenses — for example, by curbing travel, new hires, and certain contracts.

        https://judicialstudies.duke.edu/2024/05/how-a-u-s-government-shutdown-impacts-courts-access-to-justice/

        Plus voting in favor of this CR would be codifying much of what these cases are about. Many of the illegal spending cuts would become legal until September making the cases moot.

        It would also fuck over DC local government in a way the executive branch cannot easily do. Congress can control DC budgets but very little of the DC budget comes from federal money (<1%) where Trump could mess with. The CR has a clause to cut $1 billion from their budget despite that not saving the federal government any money

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          That’s a good point. Looks like both ways are bad, but voting yes, still looks worse.

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            Indeed, there’s a reason the Federal Worker Unions are saying to vote against the CR despite the likely shutdown that would entail

            Plus it would teach senate Republicans that they can do basically whatever they want as long as they threaten a shutdown. You have to stand up strong to bullies it’s the only thing they understand