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  • The final line of the hypothetical makes it seem like they realize they have a lot in common because they are fragments/aspects cloned off after the original person died. But why would the zombie retain any aspect of the person, if ghosts exist? Is it positing a universe where human consciousness is the result of a twin-entity, spirit and body, copiloting the consciousness? Unless it’s an entirely new person piloting the ghost’s old corpse in zombitude. (Not even getting into why the ghost wouldn’t recognize their own body, unless the flesh has melted off.)

    At this point, though, we’re mired in real Corpse of She-seus territory. And, it doesn’t seem like there is much space/reason for the shared origin to cause much pause in the relationship. It’s on the level of finding out you went to the same college or secondary school.




  • I believe the IDF’s “military capability” is largely subsidized by the US sending nearly-unconditional aid, and because of their ideology riling them up for their chance to shoot civilians during their stint in military service.

    I do think forcing the West to bear arbitrary reorganization of their borders, for once, would be “funny.” But who is going to force them to when neither the Israelis nor any European country would want that? The West could have enforced the Israeli project on the Middle East (even if Zionists weren’t salivating for the chance to colonize the area) in lieu of Jewish support.


  • Quoting a different one of my comments in this thread:

    You’re just recommending the same course of actions that the US North took against the Confederacy. And we see how well that worked out for stomping out their noxious belief today.

    If you just board up the building bigots spewed out hate from without stopping the people with bad thoughts from propagating them, then they’ll set up shop somewhere else. You have to dig them up by the roots.

    But killing people for “bad thoughts” isn’t a great road to start walking down. So we arrive back at my original comment.




  • We are clearly talking about different things.

    Obviously, you stop funding them but that doesn’t fix Israel. You’re just recommending the same course of actions that the US North took against the Confederacy. And we see how well that worked out for stomping out their noxious belief today.

    If you just board up the building bigots spewed out hate from without stopping the people with bad thoughts from propagating them, then they’ll set up shop somewhere else. You have to dig them up by the roots.

    But killing people for “bad thoughts” isn’t a great road to start walking down. So we arrive back at my original comment.


  • My question is: what to do with them?

    You can’t break them up and disperse them. We tried that with Nazis after WW2 and that just seeded Nazis everywhere that formed cores for Nazi sympathizers to rally around.

    Probably not great to lock them up in the country, like Cuba, either. It won’t fix their cancerous ideology…and most of their land is stolen.

    Really, any actions will only fuel their persecution complex, and they’ll weave that into the indoctrination they install into the following generations of Israeli.