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  • This does does not reflect how people ate then. Evidence is growing to suggest that the per-agricultural humans ate mostly plants. It's just been harder to see until recently because bones and such are easier to spot. For instance here's one study

    Our results unequivocally demonstrate a substantial plant-based component in the diets of these hunter-gatherers. This distinct dietary pattern challenges the prevailing notion of high reliance on animal proteins among pre-agricultural human groups

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-024-02382-z

    Eating the current level of meat, dairy, etc. in the west is rather new even within the last hundred years. This new food pyramid is an acceleration of a very recent trend that has had poor health consequences

  • That difference seems a lot higher than most of the world. Were you looking at price per unit volume or price per whatever the container was? I'd be really surprised if there's a difference that high

    There is also the option of making plant-milks yourself. Price can be a lot cheaper that way by orders of magnitude. (Though may take some experimentation to get good tasting recipes, so don't necessarily judge off of the first taste)

  • It probably won't stop most people, but they'll try to do anything they can to slow things down even if it's on the margins

  • The goal isn't necessarily to change how people speak (though they would if they could), but more to make the product name on the stores shelves look less appealing to reduce sales

  • vegan @lemmy.world

    Caribou Coffee Eliminates Surcharge for Plant-Based Milk Across All US Locations

    vegconomist.com /food-and-beverage/milk-and-dairy-alternatives/caribou-coffee-eliminates-surcharge-plant-based-milk-across-800-locations/
  • United States | News & Politics @lemmy.ml

    The new food pyramid is lying to you | It’s also a contradictory mess.

    www.vox.com /future-perfect/474554/food-pyramid-dietary-guidelines-maha-protein
  • Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics. @slrpnk.net

    West Hollywood Committed to Plant-Based Food. Here’s What That Looks Like So Far

    sentientmedia.org /west-hollywood-committed-to-plant-based-food/
  • He's uh claiming to be "ending the war on saturated fats" so one may want to re-evaluate. The focus on animal proteins (plant proteins get only side mentions) and animal fats is already going against what actual health officals say. For instance from the article:

    As it is, Americans are consuming protein in amounts well above the amount that is necessary to sustain health and development," Marie-Pierre St-Onge, a professor at Columbia University Nutrition, told ABC News.

  • Those are primarily just using the same the packing as they due to places that prohibit using the term "milk". The dairy industry has lobbied quite hard for those bans across the world at all levels of government. Under the belief that "oat drink" or the like sounds less appealing that "oat milk"

  • That's been the term of choice in English for the past 800+ years

    In English, the word "milk" has been used to refer to "milk-like plant juices" since 1200 CE.[11]

    Plant milks go back much further than most people realize

    Almond milk spread throughout Europe during the Middle Ages and was popular in parts of the Middle East. Recipes for almond milk in the Middle East date back to around the 13th century as it was mentioned in Muhammad bin Hasan al-Baghdadi’s cookbook Kitāb al-Ṭabīḫ (كتاب الطبيخ; The Book of Dishes), written in 1226. It was especially popular during Lent.[12][13][14][15] Soy was a plant milk used in China during the 14th century.[3][16] Soy milk use in China is first recorded in 1365.[17] In medieval England, almond milk was used in dishes such as ris alkere (a type of rice pudding)[18] and appears in the recipe collection The Forme of Cury.[19] Coconut milk (and coconut cream) are traditional ingredients in many cuisines such as in South and Southeast Asia, and are often used in curries.[20]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_milk

  • Green - An environmentalist community @lemmy.ml

    Survey: Nearly Half of Germans Now Consume Plant-Based Milk

    vegconomist.com /food-and-beverage/milk-and-dairy-alternatives/danone-survey-nearly-half-germans-consume-plant-based-milk-alternatives/
  • Animal agriculture is a massive contributor to some of the largest problems in the world


    It's at least ~15-17% of climate emissions and is enough to make us miss climate targets on its own even if fossil fuels are immediately stopped

    ~73% of the world's antibiotics go to animal agriculture, leading to antibiotic resistance diseases. It's directly attributed to at least 50% of all zoonetic diseases since 1940

    It's one the most dangerous and exploitative industries to work in. There are multiple human right watch reports on working conditions in just the US (“When We’re Dead and Buried, Our Bones Will Keep Hurting” and Blood, Sweat, and Fear). And this is not limited to the US, here's just a handful of reporting from The Guardian Revealed: exploitation of meat plant workers rife across UK and Europe, ‘The whole system is rotten’: life inside Europe’s meat industry

    The rates of factory farming globally are far higher than most people think. It's around 74% of all globally farmed land animals, and 90% of total global farmed land and marine animals. It's around ~99% for the US. The number of animals slaughtered each year is immense at ~80 billion land animals / year, >100 total animals per year. The sheer number of individuals who go through that makes the level of suffering hard to parallel

    And that's just some of the harm the industry does, but I don't want to ramble too long without talking about how to go about solving this


    There is more we as individuals can do here than we can for 90% of other issues. With the laws of supply and demand, simply reducing our collective demand makes the industry smaller. That's doable at the induvidal level: simply reducing (and ideally eliminating) our individual meat, dairy, etc. consumption can have a real impact. This is more achievable than people think. For instance, Germany has seen a 12% decline in per capita meat consumption over the last ~10 years. We don't need wait for any institutions to make changes before that can work by doing collective action

    There are also some systemic changes we can push for in the near-medium future to help make that happen faster. For instance, just making plant-based foods the default tends to increase plant-based consumption by several orders of magnitude. NYC hospitals implemented plant-based defaults and made their plant-based consumption rate go up to 51% of meals and reduced the average cost of a meal by 59 cents. If that sounds interesting to anyone there are campaigns with real successes to get more institutions and companies to implement those. There groups like the Better Food Foundation, Greener By Default, the Plant Based Treaty is running a Related Campaign, No Milk Tax which has gotten hundreds of chains to drop their plant milk up charge, among others

  • vegan @lemmy.world

    Luxury Fashion Brand Rick Owens Becomes Latest To Ban Fur

    plantbasednews.org /lifestyle/fashion/luxury-fashion-rick-owens-ban-fur/
  • Can we bring back talking about beans all the time on Lemmy? Asking for a friend who love beans (aka me)

  • Green - An environmentalist community @lemmy.ml

    Kansas Greenlights Mega Feedlot in “Sensitive” Water Area

    sentientmedia.org /kansas-greenlights-mega-feedlot/
  • Videos @lemmy.world

    The ghost farms choking Greece’s coastline

  • politics @lemmy.world

    In Blow to Trump, Indiana Rejects GOP Gerrymander

    www.democracydocket.com /news-alerts/in-blow-to-trump-indiana-rejects-gop-gerrymander/
  • vegan @lemmy.world

    Minnesota’s Most Populous County Implements Plant-Based-By-Default Policy for Official Meetings and Events

    vegconomist.com /gastronomy-food-service/food-service/minnesotas-most-populous-county-implements-plant-based-default-policy-official-meetings-events/
  • Don't worry there's still plenty of selective breeding to make sure chickens grow fast at the expense of their health. Fast-growing chicken make up over ~95% of all globally farmed chicken (or higher depending on how you defined fast-growing)

  • Green - An environmentalist community @lemmy.ml

    Georgia Communities Are Pushing Back Against Big Chicken

    sentientmedia.org /georgia-communities-pushing-back-against-big-chicken/
  • Because the 13th amendment has an explicit exception for prison slave labor baked into it. It's not an accidental addition, and it wasn't unnoticed either (it was very quickly used especially in the South after the 13th amendment was ratified)

    Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

    Some states have recently change their state constitutions to prohibit that within the state, but it's still legal federally and in the vast majority of states

  • From the above article

    The program has also been accused of being less than voluntary, as numerous firsthand accounts of being coerced or forced to work against their will have emerged from people detained inside ICE facilities. Allegations against the agency range from officers threatening retaliation if detainees refuse to work, to detainees receiving insufficient amounts of food and having to work to make money to buy additional food at the commissary.

  • Don't worry, there's fears it might get worse

    As detention numbers creep upward, some advocates are worried that detainees could be compelled to work to fill gaps in the workforce of some of the most dangerous jobs in the country, including on factory farms and in slaughterhouses. “Over the last decade or so, ICE has been contracting with private organizations to run their detention centers, very much like prisons have been doing. Those private companies have been making detainees work for $1 a day,” Amal Bouhabib, senior staff attorney with the legal advocacy organization FarmSTAND, tells Sentient.

    To be clear, there is no evidence this is happening right now in ICE detention centers, but advocates are worried this could change.

    The meat, dairy, etc. industry already uses prison slave labor in various parts

    https://sentientmedia.org/people-in-ice-detention-forced-to-work/

  • United States | News & Politics @lemmy.ml

    Poultry Plants Consistently Violate Salmonella Standards, Report Finds

    civileats.com /2025/11/03/poultry-plants-consistently-violate-salmonella-standards-report-finds/
  • Green - An environmentalist community @lemmy.ml

    Lidl Calls For Mandatory Reporting on Plant-Based Targets To 'Level The Playing Field'

    plantbasednews.org /news/economics/lidl-calls-for-plant-based-targets/
  • United States | News & Politics @midwest.social

    Heat Exhaustion, Amputated Fingers, Crushed Limbs: The Hidden Cost of American Turkey

    sentientmedia.org /the-hidden-cost-of-american-turkey/
  • Trump has already threatened school lunches earlier this year. In Maine, he tried to pull funding from the entire state over some bs around trans people. Maine's governor told him to his face that she'd see him in court over it. Then a little bit later, he settled in court and gave back the funding without attaching any strings

  • United States | News & Politics @lemmy.ml

    US Senate Passes Bill Giving Children the Right to Plant-Based Milks in Public School Lunches

    vegconomist.com /politics-law/us-senate-passes-bill-giving-children-right-plant-based-milks-public-school-lunches/
  • Have you tried just compiling it with fewer threads? Would almost certainly reduce the RAM usage, and might even make the compile go faster if it you're needing to swap that heavily

  • vegan @lemmy.world

    University of California Riverside Sets 50% Plant-Based Meal Target by 2027

    vegconomist.com /society/university-california-riverside-sets-50-plant-based-meal-target-2027/
  • vegan @lemmy.world

    Tyson Foods to close major US beef plant as cattle herd numbers dwindle

    www.reuters.com /business/tyson-foods-close-us-beef-plant-cattle-supplies-dwindle-2025-11-21/
  • This is part of a broader movement that has seen successes in a lot of places. From Wikipedia

    Plant-Based Universities is an international student-led campaign calling for universities and Students' Unions to adopt fully plant-based catering.[1][2] The campaign began in late 2021[3] in response to the climate crisis.[4] Its chapters have initiated votes in Students' Unions and, as of October 2025, been successful in one Dutch, one Swedish, two Austrian, two Swiss, four German, and fourteen British universities, with around 80 active campaigns across nine countries.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant-Based_Universities

  • Green - An environmentalist community @lemmy.ml

    University of Basel Students in Switzerland Vote for 100% Plant-Based Catering by 2030

    vegconomist.com /gastronomy-food-service/food-service/university-of-basel-students-switzerland-vote-100-plant-based-catering-2030/
  • Green - An environmentalist community @lemmy.ml

    Nigerian Activists Push Back on JBS and Government Slaughterhouse Plans

    sentientmedia.org /nigerian-activists-push-back-on-jbs/
  • The article talks about more than just working conditions. For instance

    While the larger poultry industry in neighboring Arkansas has given rise to worker centers and advocacy groups that push back against unsafe conditions, Oklahoma’s still sizable immigrant workforce has less support

    [...]

    Immigrant workers are often less inclined than native-born workers to report unsafe working conditions or injuries because they fear losing their jobs or being deported, said Jose Oliva, the campaigns director for the HEAL Food Alliance, a coalition of organizations that represent food industry workers.

    [...]

    “This industry is really skilled at constantly seeking out who is the most vulnerable or exploitable population, and how do we bring them in,” Stuesse said.

  • Can't speak for this specific blend sourcing they used in this study, but soy protein is usually cheaper in much of the world. It's why most protein bars use soy protein isolate