When the war was turning in Ukraine’s favor and they were about to push into Russia, he shut it off and crippled their counter offensive. I remember. Fuck Elon and fuck starlink.
Not push into Russia, but attempting to retake Crimea.
They’re presumably talking about the Kursk Oblast.Edit: probably not, see responses.IIRC that was long after that. The initial shutoff of Starlink happened around the explosions targeting the Crimean bridge and them introducing their naval drones.
Exactly, he basically messed up the offensive to retake Crimea.
Elon & Trump are Russia’s greatest weapons.
Which is why Starlink needs to be confiscated and managed by NATO. Somebody has to operate it, and it should be an entity who is on the side of Freedom amd Democracy.
It’s not that easy to confiscate sattelites
Sure it is. You just confiscate the infrastructure that operates them here on earth, and order their employees to comply.
I don’t think that this would be a good idea, but it is definitely doable.
When it comes to stuff like this, the USA is like a tax heaven: outside of international jurisdiction and never signed any cooperation agreement with foreign powers. The USA is the best place to run shady business right now
Musk and Starlink aren’t major difference makers in this war. It’s a years-long slog where the main takeaway is “cheap and reliable in volume is more than a match for the newest and fanciest.” It hasn’t been on the verge of turning in Ukraine’s favor since the end of Russia’s initial push towards Kyiv.
Is that why you guys are welding cages on your tanks?
“Everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian” was ran into the ground five years ago, get new material.
But yes, a steel cage offering significant protection against much more modern technology is a great example of what I’m talking about.
I have a buddy who’s been eating/sleeping/breathing this war and, hands down, cheap and reliable FPV drones have changed how warfare is done. It’s the main reason why trench warfare came back, and one of the things that fucked Russia up in the mid-term. Apparently they have a long-standing strategy that involves armor and something something something that my buddy explained and I don’t remember, but because there’s always drones watching every inch of the front at all times, Ukraine was able to bust that strat by being able to dial in artillery fast and early. At least, that’s how I’m remembering what was explained.
It’s not rly the ability of drones to observe that makes them so strong, but the ability to attack. Russia’s air defense is unable to stop a drone swarm, especially because its something the world hasn’t yet seen. And if two drones armed with explosives take down a bigass helicopter, that’s a massive win.
A few weeks ago, Ukraine decimated an oil refinery on russian territory with a swarm of drones of which only 40% were taken down by the russian air defense.
I think it might be more fair to say that it isn’t just the ability to observe. Drones have absolutely transformed the modern battlefield.
Certainly true. But observing is something we could do for a long time with satellites.
cheap and reliable in volume
cheap and reliable FPV drones have changed how warfare is done
We’re in agreement here. I’m not saying new technology is useless, I’m saying there aren’t any wonder weapons (or wonder communication systems) that would have given Ukraine a decisive advantage.
Long-term, it’s still a matter of which side can outproduce the other when it comes to the cheap and reliable equipment we’re talking about. At this point that’s clearly Russia.
Oh no I’m hearing from people that wa a technical glitch.
Close. There was a geobarrier that he refused to remove. Because attacks against Russia are aggression.
He also challenged Zuck to a cage match and chickened out when Zuck accepted. They’re both pieces of shit.
He even chickened out of his recent offer to come on the Daily Show and debate Jon Stewart! He’s a Nazi coward even when it’s just talking…
Did he officially bow out then? Jon gave him all the conditions he wanted too…
Lol I forgot about that! Yeah fuck em both of course, but I feel like most folks would put their money on the ex-KGB agent who seized and kept control of freakin’ Russia over nepo-baby “gamer”, “engineer” Musk. What a goofy threat. And I say that as a middling gamer and engineer myself lol
feel like most folks would put their money on the ex-KGB agent who seized and kept contr
Putin is 5’ 7", like 160 lbs, and 70 years old. Elon is 6’2", probably 200 lbs, and 52 years old.
I don’t think fitness and training can overcome 20 years, 50 lbs, and a full head of height.
Huh great point!
and a full head of height.
I thought you were gonna say “full head of transplanted hair,” but I was disappointed. I’ve seen tiny guys take on bigger dudes when they have more skill. The age thing is more what I might think of as an advantage for that doughy chud.
As a 6’2" dude, 200 lbs is pretty skinny. I’d bet Musk is closer to 250 lbs of useless fascist.
Musk is so fucked up he’s gonna make some noises, groan, then shit himself after the first attempt at a swing
70’s isn’t too shabby in this day and age for a well kept physique, it’s 80+ the rot cements itself.
Putin also practiced judo for most of his life. Musk won’t be standing for long during the match.
It’s Zuck and Elon not Elon and Putin.
The Tweet linked in the OP is Musk claiming that he challenged Putin to a fist fight.
Oh I missed that part. Thanks. I tend not to read his tweets because they make me angry.
I hate Zuck but in this match I’m thinking if it’s not mutually assured destruction, then I might root for Zuck. Elon is becoming a very big problem.
Or 400 pounds of semtex under the cage. 2 birds, one ring.
I would literally give away a kidney to see that live, through binoculars from about a half mile away.
Zuck is actually fit, trains, and is 10 years younger, hence why Elon chickened out.
I don’t respect Putin very much, but I am 1000 percent sure that a former KGB agent will whoop Musks ass. Apart from that, wtf is he trying to show with challenging Putin to physical combat. What does that have to do with Ukraine?
He’s just a moron.
At least Zuckerberg looks good now. Musk looks like shite
Eh, I’d say he looks less like a robot rather than good. But yeah.
The 600 series had rubber skin. We spotted them easy, but these are new. They look human…sweat, bad breath, everything.
Don’t let the fascists fool you, there are alternatives to Starlink. Eutelsat in France, Telesat in Canada and Inmarsat in the UK, just to name a few examples.
Why is starlink being used, do you know?
It’s faster, cheaper, and on the tech side more reliable (definitely not politically reliable though).
My guess is better coverage and latency with its sheer number of satellites.
They use low earth orbit, which require them to use more satellites, but lowered latency.
Technically, and this is purely semantics, coverage is the major downside to starlink. They are faster, though.
The coverage of satellites has an exponential factor of the distance of that satellite to earth. If you had the satellite further out then its signal could reach a wider area before being cut off by the curvature of the earth. However, as the distance increases, so does latency.
Now, I don’t know, but I would assume its the latency. Starlink has a (impressively) low ping of < 100ms, while existing alternatives usually have 600ms+. Now, that’s only relevant if they are using it for stuff like flying drones.
I think you’d notice half a second even just browsing the Web.
Yes, but a wep page loading slow isn’t critical. Controlling armed drones in a battle is.
Starlink has enough uplink to be able to handle live video streams and a latency low enough to do this with simple tools.
I’m not sure if that still happens, but I’ve seen some pictures of Ukrainian command bunkers literally getting drone feeds using discord screen share.
“Would you like to upgrade to Nitro”
“Be quiet small man”… smallest dick energy I’ve seen today.
Musk is gonna be copping a lot of that in response to his tweets now.
Isn’t it becoming quite widely known now that he’s gotten a bad penile implant?
his brain is as broken as his willy
Dick so small he probably drives a Cybertruck.
Oligarchs used to act the part, and have the appearance of being “classy”.
Now Oligarchs are just a bunch of 4chan users.
Wtf is: “Be quiet, small man”
That’s not an elegant way of speaking.
These people are supposed to be “upper class”?
🤣
That’s how dumb shit argue on the Internet. Ad hominem.
Nah, Elon thinks it’s elegant. As in “Ha ha, I spoke like a big boy. I heard that badass line on TV once, on one of those shows I’m not supposed to watch. Bet that guy is now red on face and is so distraught he won’t be able to eat broccoli on supper and his mom will yell at him. Owned.”
Really dude ?? 4Chaners are smarter than Elon, Elon is the definition of rock-bottom
They’re just as obnoxious as he is.
You have never seen the wholesomness of 4chaners have you ? It’s not something Elon would be, I can guarantee that
“Be quiet, small man” sounds like a thing Dennis would scream at Mac in IASIP 😄 THE GOLDEN GOD! Dude is copying a comically psycho character from a show, thinking he’s being sooo cool 😎
It’s literally an expression of the outsized amount of power this dipshit wields due to his enormous stolen wealth.
He says that to a member of the Polish government to remind him that he is powerless and owned by the capitalist class.
“Be quiet small man” with an implied “I own you.”
disdainful sniff new money, daahling.
If America was a real country this guy would’ve immediately been removed from any and all companies he runs.
Does SpaceX not have a board?
SpaceX bggest customer by far is the US gvernment. Obviously that is run by Musk, so they will not fire him.
But why? Why did t NASA do this. Instead government funded it and a private citizen controls it and gets all the benefits.
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America is a bastion of capitalism, now you figure out the rest, you are smart.
They’re all his pawns
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Except for the fact that he doesn’t make anything, he pays people who do, then takes the credit for it. Is his way with everything: companies, gaming profiles…
I get what you’re saying, but I refer to my car as…my car. I didn’t turn a wrench in its construction, nor did I design it, but it’s still mine.
I mean he doesn’t own it, SpaceX does. And he owns a bit less than half of SpaceX, though he retains most boring power.
I reread and still don’t see what you’re quoting.
“I literally challenged Putin to one on one physical combat over Ukraine and my starlink system is the backbone of the Ukrainian army.”
It’s the first sentence of the quoted tweet.
My bad.
The interior, initial Musk tweet. It’s a snippet in the middle of a sentence.
Also a reminder that everyone who is not a Musk sheep should leave Twitter.
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I got permanently banned from Reddit for saying this. 17 hours and it’s still up uh
Edit: whoops 17 upvotes, not 17 hours ☺️
I got IP banned on Reddit for saying that someone who pushed a woman on a bike over and made her fall, should be pushed instead. Big violence on my part lmfao
.world gave up moderating Saint Luigi. I don’t know what .uk’s stance was
We’ll probably have to figure that one out but we largely let the Mods set the tone in communities and, as this is a friendly, helpful community, I wouldn’t bet on that post remaining.
Fuck it feels good to say that doesn’t it?
Absolutely
Calling someone else a small man really shows what kind of man he is
It’s quite an interesting insight into what kind of thing Musk himself feels is a great insult (hence he is susceptible to it) as well as how much Musk thinks his opinion counts for people such as the Polish Minister of Foreign Affairs, all of which dovetails with the idea that the guy suffers from both Megalomania and Narcisistic Personality Disorder.
For any reasonably well adjusted person in a position of responsability such as being the Foreign Minister of a country the size of Poland (or, frankly, for anybody self-aware and self-confident), being called “small man” by somebody like Elon Musk is roughly the equivalent in importance to being barked at by a dog that cannot actually harm you.
For a person who is afraid of being assassinated, he’s pissing off a lot of people with the resources who could get him assassinated.
The irony of elon calling anyone else “small” is hilarious…
Elon is quite large actually, especially his torso.
Yup, nothing else of him is either big or medium sized. He has some complexes
Disgusting. Why the FUCK would you talk to our allies this way? The guy is a polish government official.. (I mean obviously I know why, Elon is a megalomaniac).
“Small man”??? WTF. I hate it.
You wouldn’t talk to your allies that way. Which once again makes it clear that the current US administration no longer sees Europe as allies.
America as whole sees you as meatshields against the Russian bear
We know. Only the idiots deny it.
Love it when the fucking around leads to finding out
Holy shit that jump is crazy. Carlos Slim related as well I assume.
That’s weird: Musk and Trump are doing exactly what one would if they were Russian assets, bent on destroying western alliances… You don’t have to believe all the evidence that they are… Just imagine that these 2 billionaires are compromised. What would they do at this exact moment in history…?
It’s time for Europe to finally get their own solutions.
It’s called One Web by Eutelsat. Same latency and reliability, but less Mb/s about 70 Mb/s (and does it matter much for the few Kb packets to relay small amounts of data?).
Eutelsat
Eutelsat has about 9% the number of satellites and Starlink is expanding fast. This significantly limits the potential backhaul, which is why Eutelsat doesn’t really focus on consumers, but rather governments and enterprise. They don’t have the backhaul to offer wide consumer products. Their cost of launch is 10x higher than Starlink, at least, so they’ll never be able to compete in backhaul or the consumer space. Of course they could contract SpaceX to launch their satellites, but then they’re basically paying the competition to operate, and this power imbalance would be immediately leveraged to their detriment.
The bottom line here is that competitors need reusable rockets, and no one else is even close. However Musk put together the company and strategy pushed space transport forward by decades in a very short space of time, and it’s unlikely another Musk figure emerges in Europe. I do not subscribe to the common notion that if we throw enough money at the problem we can solve it. Jeff Bezos’ Blue Origin confirms this. It appears to require an appetite for extreme risk; the will to blow up hundreds of expensive rockets; and likely a penchant for the disregard of existing safety laws. The EU would never permit this.
Correct. The EU and its cadres of Brussels technocrats cornered the law in multiple angles so a risky (yet massively profitable and useful) venture like SpaceX would never find the right conditions to exist
Its a tricky balance, on one hand the US system has createst the most profitable and capable companies on earth, on the other hand its also created the most powerful and regulation capturing companies on earth.
I don’t really believe in the financial aspects of reusable rockets, but I tend to believe in the financial aspects if an air force gives you free launch sites then a US state gives you public land to use as you wish without any supervision. Using taxes to pay for something and call it cheap, as shameful with spaceX as it is for EU healthcare (except in one case it benefits one company, in the other whole nations).
I’m not really sure I understand what you’re arguing here. That reusable rockets are easy to build as long as the government gives one some land to use? If that were true we would have had reusable rockets many decades ago.
Awesome hopefully it will improve and be a contender world wide.
Here’s one: https://www.skydsl.eu/en-DE/Personal/Satellite-internet/Tariffs/Private/Overview
Seems to be about half as expensive as Starlink. 700ms latency though. So you won’t be gaming skydsl.
Promising , I bet th latency will improve with time , very good
No, it won’t. If I recall correctly, it’s a geostationary constellation
