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  • This bridge in Finland has hooks to hang explosives from in case it needs to be collapsed to stop Russian advance

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  • Yeah sure, they do, ofc. Hell, the military has literally vehicles that become bridges in case someone else has blown up a bridge.

    My point is that I often found in the military that things are ultimately done because they make sense. (And I don't want a bunch of people here complaining about making their beds, discipline, cleanliness and uniformity does have a purpose.)

    I just think these hooks seem be really close to each other and I only found articles talking about charge "pits", but someone did link a Finnish thing where they said "panoskoukku" so could very well be and I'm not arguing against it anymore.

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  • Directed charges still should be attached to something, because of Newton's third law.

    Or I'm just super ignorant of the type of charge you're imagining. Please, elaborate.

  • This bridge in Finland has hooks to hang explosives from in case it needs to be collapsed to stop Russian advance

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  • Instead of sourcing your shit and/or answering my last question, you just can't do anything else than take it personally.

    I wasn't being a dick. Asking for a source isn't being a dick.

    Just because you imagine me having a complaining or whining voice doesn't make it so. You're projecting shit from your consciousness onto me.

    If an assertion is made without any proof, it is equally easy to dismiss it. This is literally rhetoric 101. But yes, I know you äidin lil' kullanmurut get so upset when someone dares to question a thing.

    And thats why you'll stay an introverted socially inept weakling.

    "Perättömistä syytöksistä"

    Name one. Oh you can't? What did I accuse you of. You're the one being insanely dickish here, because you can't read neutral comments as neutral. Literally the reason Finland sucks is the attitude you're exemplifying, and also a threat to our democracy. But you would never believe it no matter what, so it's no use talking about it.

    Oh and another "I'm gonna block you". People who say that never do, because you're so utterly desperate to see what I think about your message.

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  • Noni.

    Eihä se nii vaikiaa ollu löytää jotai lähdettä. Thänks

    Is there any info on how the hooks are used, what kind of charges?

  • This bridge in Finland has hooks to hang explosives from in case it needs to be collapsed to stop Russian advance

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  • Yeah.. so you'd agree it would be these hooks you'd use?

  • This bridge in Finland has hooks to hang explosives from in case it needs to be collapsed to stop Russian advance

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  • So did you do it by hanging shit off the walls or actually putting explosives into structures?

    Everything I find about the defensive strategy talks about "charge pits" and "cavities", can't find a single reference to hanging or hooks.

    As a dapper you'd use whatever means at your disposal, but as a defensive strategy you're doing with time, why wouldn't you actually make pits to put rhe explosives in? I'm sure as a sapper you understand how much more effective it is to have an explosive surrounded by the structure instead of just vaguely close to it, so that a majority of the explosive force actually goes into whatever you're blowing up instead of harakoille. Right?

  • This bridge in Finland has hooks to hang explosives from in case it needs to be collapsed to stop Russian advance

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  • Sure. But also, no-one is blowing bridges by hanging explosives inside instead of drilling them into the structure.

    For 28 years, the bridge carried traffic and goods, including timber from the Soviet Union, until replaced by the present concrete structure. Pits for demolition charges are visible in the piles. These cavities could be filled with explosives in order to blow the bridge to smithereens should this ever have become necessary.

    https://sotatie.fi/en/battlegrouds-trail/site-descriptions/mohko-village

  • This bridge in Finland has hooks to hang explosives from in case it needs to be collapsed to stop Russian advance

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  • I appreciate the input from a building perspective and I'll buy that, sure, I don't know shit about pouring concrete.

    Cold war paranoia is the likeliest reason.

    I still haven't had any rational reason for these to be for bombs. It's just much more effective to have bombs actually in the structure instead of just hanging on it. Imagine trying to blow a safe. Would you do it just by leaning an explosive on it and wishing for the best? Nah. You'd at least try to attach it to the lock somehow.

    And every article I can find on bombing bridges in Finland talks about "charge pits", not "a line of hooks well hang explosives off of". So I just don't buy these being military in any way. Not convinced.

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  • Yeah I find it deeply annoying to talk to whiny people who get upset when you question something they've said. In fact I make it a practice not to be with such people, because they're usually really emotionally unstable. Usually it's the less intellectually robust people, and they get mad when you remind them of it.

    See what you've just told me is you're repulsed by even the suggestion of "try to rationalise this thought you have".

    Eww.

    "Charge PITS."

    But I'm sure that's just a translation error, right?

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  • Sure you did.

    I know, it's annoying when someone asks for something to make sense when you've already decided it's true no matter if it does or doesn't make sense.

    "Charge PITS", not "nails" or "hooks".

  • Facing threats of war, Denmark turns to a new weapon: women

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  • I would imagine them being slower and sneakier, with lighter armored but more specialized soldiers.

    Again, you're really thinking of frontline soldiers, which is kind of a small part of the jobs in the military. And you're pretty much thinking of the army(and/or marines).

    I'd say that women are people, like men, and like men, they have more individual strengths and weaknesses than they do as a group. Military is just built around the physicality of men, but most of the taller girls kept up pretty well, just like it was easier for the taller guys to keep up with things.

    And the reason the girls usually didn't get placed in the frontline groups was that those are the shortest and easiest to train, and every one of those women volunteered, so they're didn't want to just take the shortest and simplest way out (as the training and thus service time for basic infantry was months shorter).

    Also I know of at least one girl who was an infantry squad leader (leader of a jaeger squad jääkärialikersantti) and went off to become an infantry officer after her service. She tried getting in the first time, but as her tests weren't in the top, she wasn't accepted, but everyone can go through the training after their service with the next group of arrivals if they so choose and fulfill certain requirements. So she should be an officer now. Last saw her some 16 years ago when she went off to the after-service officer course. So I'd reckon she might be a lieutenant or even an overlieutenant or maybe even a captain if she's been actively going to reserve drills. Probably not, but at least a vänrikki (one under lieutenant, ~ensign, nato rank OF-1)

    But like my point is that they're really not that different.

    One thing I did kinda dislike though is that the physical requirements were less for women than men. Because I think they should be set by objective needs and not just be scoring the physically best of each sex.

  • Forget electric bikes, Kawasaki is building an electric horse for actual production

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  • Uh, you could technically have this in an apartment building, depending on the type of storage / parking available. There's gated parking places in some apartments nearby me and if this fit through the door, you could technically keep it in the bikeshed, I guess.

    But a horse? Nah, a horse needs shelter from the weather, food, cleaning, medical attention. Also they're brittle af. If a horse breaks its leg, it's still more or less the only thing to do to put it down. Perhaps if you're obscenely wealthy you could try and have all sorts physical therapy devices and just supports designed for them and have them held up each night while sleeping or something but I still don't know whether it's even possible.

    Oh, yeah, apparently they can survive minor breaks with modern veterinary care, but above the knee or serious, like a compound fracture and the main go-to is still euthanasia.

    Anyway yeah horses are expensive af and take a lot of caring. Whatever this thing costs the cost of use should be waaaay cheaper than a horse. And horses aren't cheap to get either.

  • Forget electric bikes, Kawasaki is building an electric horse for actual production

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  • I'd love to but apparently the landlord of my apartment building has some issues with it.

  • This bridge in Finland has hooks to hang explosives from in case it needs to be collapsed to stop Russian advance

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  • I'm a supply core undersergeant, so I literally went through lists of military equipment when I was serving. Never saw anything related to using antitank mines for improvisational demolition charges.

    Just admit you don't have any reason. You can't rationalise it, but despite the overwhelming lack of evidence and logic, you still believe it. This is why Finland (or rather Finns) suck.

    Blowing bridges isn't something you do when you're doing a tactical retreat. Blowing up bridges is something you do strategically. Guess you can't tell the difference, both synonyms to you?

  • This bridge in Finland has hooks to hang explosives from in case it needs to be collapsed to stop Russian advance

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  • The point is that you could do that, with a roll of gorilla tape.

    The point isn't it's more awkward to do and takes longer, the point is that the explosive force delivered to the bridge would be the same. (Actually slightly more with a gorilla tape covered explosive as it would marginally increase the forces on the bridge compared to just hanging ones.)

    If you put an explosive inside the bridge, the force delivered to the structure is several times more. Thus it would make sense to have "pits" to out explosives into, not just hooks to hang them off of.

  • This bridge in Finland has hooks to hang explosives from in case it needs to be collapsed to stop Russian advance

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  • Well this entire discussion is about military logistics?

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  • I'm not opposed in any way. I just don't personally believe it. I think OP is full of bullshit, as a lot of people are.

    I couldn't even recall the amount of "facts" people throw around and then get super mad when someone points out their "facts" don't make sense at all.

    These hooks were on every single bridge pillar I saw

    Yep. All around Finland.

    All the talk of the defensive strategies (that we've had since the Winter War) only speak of these being applied to the eastern part of Finland. And you can even look at a map to see the roads round there mainly going in the same way and there not being lots of roads joining them. It's all part of their defensive strategy. Shutting off infra from where an attack would come from.

    But what is the fucking point in supposedly being ready to blow up a bridge in Forssa? Tell me the strategic advantage any enemy would have with it?

    I'm really tempted to just email Destia and ask for a confirmation but I feel like asking stuff like that might sound a bit suspicious so I hesitate.

    Go ahead if it bothers you so but yeah unless they confirm it or you make even a remotely rational explanation to them, I'm not buying it. Why does me not personally believing in something bug you so? If you need No proof to assert it, I need No proof to assert the negative of the same assertion.

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  • Yeah, it does. And it's also designed so that it takes 10 kilograms of pressure to detonate. Are you gonna rig up sideways launchers for each? Perhaps there already are remote detonators that you just replace the normal weight switch with.

    But still. I don't buy it. First off why hang them so frequently, and do all the texts speak of charge PITS instead of "charge hooks"?

    It just doesn't make sense to me and I just think OP has heard it from someone in real life and decided to believe it and is now spreading it here.

    Unless someone can actually show these are for explosives, I just don't buy it.

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  • I should've thought so as well but unless you can come up with better reasoning or source for these being for bombs, I still find it more probable. I'm not saying it's a good explanation, but it's more probable to me.

    Anything I found was discussing "charge pits" and I can't imagine any explosive you'd want to hang on the outside of what you're demolishing with that sort of frequency.

    I'm not saying it's not true, but I'm not convinced.

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    Results of pro-Russian information manipulation and disinformation monitoring targeting Ukraine-EU relations during June – August, 2025

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    Artemis II orbits the Moon.

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    Why Siberia Might Actually Secede From Russia

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    Sweden accuses Russia of GPS jamming over Baltic Sea

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    ‘For Russians, Nato is next to Satan’: Finnish guards on alert at Russia border

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    Saturday cooking thread?

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    Eire / Ireland also modded by Russians it seems

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    Banned for "bad faith" for validly calling out a spam-bot

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    Who is paying for ads like these and why?

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    "Wario" is a Japanese portmanteu of Mario and "warui" (bad), but in Finnish "Wario" is also a homonym of "varjo", "shadow".

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    They say Reddit is filled with bots, implying Lemmy isn't...

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    I love how someone on ST: Enterprise set crew loved Finnish glass design.

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    Hostile Government Takeover (EDM Remix)

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    You can't make out a single sentence from this screen grab I took while reading an article.

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    Isn't "MAGA" an admission that currently, America is NOT great?