Who would have thought confining some of the most self-centred, egotistical, greedy and morally flexible people together in a living situation might not work out.
Shocker…
It’s kind of like their own punishment. They’ll laugh as they descend into their bunkers, thinking “no one can get in!” Not knowing that the exits will be boarded up.
At last, one of them will emerge, after having ate the other occupants - children included - and they will be met by a crowd of brown people (global warming caused “white genocide”).
The crowd will then drag the surviving billionaire to a down square, where they’ll be submerged into a vat of liquid metal, forming a statue with a horrid look on it’s face, to be mounted on a block with a placard titled “The Last Billionaire”.
STOP! I cant get any harder and it aint going down anytime soon
Have you tried flicking it?
In a manner of speaking
“I’m not locked in with you, you’re locked in with me”, but they all believe they’re the “me”
Can I vote for you? You seem like leadership.
They think no one can get in, we think none of them will ever get out.
Can we just fake a catastrophe now to get them to all go in?
Nah. These bunkers all have air holes and we have a lot of concrete :)
Expanding spray foam insulation is much easier and more effective than concrete for this…
Por que no los dos? Layer of spray foam, top it off with a foot or so of concrete.
Now that’s thinking with your brain!
Fresh fish is also an option
I like the way your mind works friend
But wait! What if we buy a cruise ship and sell the cabins on it as law-free estate for these freaks? Certainly that one has to work out, right?!
Is this a reference to The Filth?
More to the MS Satoshi.
If this is really the best of humanity that will weather the storm, we could be doomed after all.
Why do people keep saying or assuming that these are the best of humanity? These literally are the leeches of humanity, the narcissistic antisocial hoarders who think they’re the cream of the crop and obviously the only ones deserving of survival of the disaster they helped create.
Fuck these people, I hope they all die in a fire or something, humanity will be off better
It is one of the worst parts of US culture and one of the greatest accomplishments of capitalists’ propaganda that we generally see the rich as noble and admirable while the poor are evil and disgusting.
Not to be all US-centric about it, but that’s where I live and I think this place’s reputation speaks for itself.
I hope they all get sealed in their bunkers from the outside and go insane trapped in the tomb they’ve created.
Middleclass hillbillies from North Dakota think they’re the cream of the crop?
Well look at the quality of people who think they’re the superior race
If only we could get all those pedophile fascists into those bunkers sooner and cut them off from all outside contact.
These aren’t “the wealthy” - most of these are priced at $50k-75k. That’s prepper nutjob price ranges and it’s no surprise that they’re shooting people with front end loaders since obviously it’s the government disguised as the company workers, coming to dig them out and take their guns.
The people who are actually wealthy have the means to not live in a hole in South Dakota surrounded by other people in their own holes. Their hole in the ground will be somewhere much less advertised.
Yeah, IIRC Zuck’s bunker is in New Zealand, because it’s theoretically farthest from radiation fallout during a nuclear event.
It’s in kauai, hawaii. Specifically, right here:
22.2016232, -159.3485761
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/coordinate_precision.png
At least we now know where waldo is in zucks bunker
In this case, it’s just the default number of sig figs Google maps gives. The satellite view literally shows the big hole being dug for the bunker, too.
There’s one on Maui, too.
Bezos, though I dont think it’s a bunker compound.
20.6011343, -156.4220373
Oh I guess it was some other billionaire who had one in NZ.
NZ does the “golden passport” thing, so lots of billionaires have bought citizenship there. Maybe Peter Theil was the one in headlines for making a compound there?
Where are the other Rat nests?
These aren’t the control vaults. They are the experiment vaults.
Can we stage a fake crisis so they all flee to their bunkers, then we all lock them inside?
Genius. I’m getting my asteroid ready. Get your telescope lined up.
Can we seal the bunkers with cement?
This is sort of the premis of the book “the future” by Naomi Alderman
Oh interesting I’ll have to give that a look.
Unfortunately for us we have some very real crisis in the pipeline!
We do and we could fix it, if these fuckers just disappeared.
🤞
We just have to have teams in place to break them up so they don’t come back out again.
El refugio atomico
Isn’t this exactly the premise for some of the Vaults in Fallout? Social experiments that lead to societal issues?
There’s a few that come close. This situation is about as bad as the more milquetoast vault outcomes: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_known_Vaults
I’d say it’s pretty middling once you remove bioweapons from the list for sake of realistic comparison. Pretty sure we don’t have FEV yet.
These fucks are GROUND ZERO for humanity’s collective dysfunction. They really think concentrating their filth in a fucking bunker isn’t going to brew the literal worst toxic behavior ever witnessed?
Have at it in my opinion. Lock em in and melt the keys.
Like most of their ideas the bunker strategy is idiotic because it completely fails to take into account the psychology of the individual. They used to flying around all over the planet and experiencing the best in life, for the most part they’ve lived this life since before they knew what their own fingers were for because they were born into wealth, these people are not going to do well in a tiny underground facility.
The people who would do the best in the bunker are the people they are in the bunker to hide away from.
The only smart people in tgis are the ones selling rhe bunkers. They charge lots of money for a promise that is not even fully complete as described in the article. In the unlikely event of an actual apocalypse, many will not even rech the bunker in the first place and if somyhing is not ready or woking as it shouls there is nobody left to prosecute.
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Any plan or strategy that fails to take account of psychology is poorly planned
Vivos does claim that they’re paying psychologists among other experts. I wonder how well.
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It’s a known phenomenon. When surrounded by sycophants, when on the top of a severe power imbalance you forget how to adult and how to empathize.
Story time!
What is a residential cruise ship?
What is a residential cruise ship?
Think of condos, but on a ship.
People make it their permanent home, and the ship wanders the world’s oceans based (theoratically) on votes from the passenger/owners as to where to go next.
The residents tend to be a mix of remote workers, digital nomads and retirees.
I just did a quick search. $100k to own the cabin + $2k per person per month for one example. Seems like a good way for some to blow their money during their golden years. Sell the house and head out to sea to die.
Billionaires can just buy entire cruise ships. I assume you mean multi-millionaires?
No. I mean billionaires. They like having a community to show off their wealth around.
Not surprised, they haven’t heard the word “no” or had to wait for their turn for a very long time
During one particularly hairy incident, a man who moved into one of the units with his wife, his daughter, and her four children, pulled a gun on a Vivos contractor who had pulled up with a front-end loader to his bunker.
The resident eventually shot the contractor, injuring him. However, South Dakota’s stand-your-ground law led to a grand jury declining to indict him.
It’s telling that one of these billionaires was the type to kill a worker trying to do their job near his property. And “stand your ground” laws were created by and for gun nuts who want to murder someone. Change my mind…
Like the other commenter noted, these aren’t rich people, they are prepper types. A billionaire isnt getting a $55k bunker.
The guy who did the shooting is apparently a former cop turned EMT.
The person he shot also wasn’t a worker trying to do his job, it was a guy who worked for the company who told a mutual acquaintance that he was going to that guy’s house specifically to attack him. When he got there, he asked the guy if he’d ever killed someone, and then he said he had killed someone with his bare hands. He then started going at the guy, who shot him and then immediately rendered aid.
Not to defend a guy eho is probably a nutjob and a jerk, it sounds like a reasonable act of self defense to me.
Not that I don’t believe you, but do you have a link to those details? They certainly aren’t in this article…
Yeah, I thought it was strange because famously a grand jury will indict anything, but there werent any details in the article, so I looked one up with more detail.
I think it’s because the article is trying to paint a picture that may not exactly fit the reality. But I didn’t read it anyway, this comment thread looks more interesting
Not a billionaire, these are prepper bunkers…
These people are such morons. It would take about 2 minutes of an intro level Anthropology class to learn that for like 95% of human history we lived in small groups like this — so we’re definitely able to do it — but they only worked because they were (mostly) egalitarian. They absolutely don’t work when group members consistently value themselves over the group.
They weren’t necessarily egalitarian, but they all involved a sense of duty to the community the ability to reinvent the structure of the community, and the freedom to leave. They were also smaller than this. But yeah this is a bunch of people who don’t understand how to function in a community like this.
Also I’m not certain why these people are already living in the bunkers
They are so disconnected from reality they think the world has already ended. Evidence of this would be the minor pushback to things like AI they are starting to experience.
A bunch of them went and hid in their bunkers when 9/11 happened. Obviously a pretty bad thing to happen but hardly the end of the world. Sadly they came out about 2 days later because they got bored.
Yep, though we know of bands of hundreds of people who persisted for a long time and at least a few examples of proto-cities with thousands and a much less pronounced division of labor (or at much less pronounced evidence of the trappings that tend to go along with things like kings and a class system). The prevailing assumption right now is that they must have been working more “together” than not.
people are such morons
Wait until you read about Cryonics…
Demolition Man is free on Tubi right now
Maybe I’ll finally learn how to use the three seashells.
It’ll be funny when they wake up 3000 years from now because aliens want to vivisect them.
My matrix-connected brain-in-a-jar will be laughing at them.
well ofcourse they would, they tend to all think that they are the main characters and everyone else is just an NPC
Have these guys ever considered that the survivors outside the bunkers might just weld the bunker doors shut whilst those inside watch them do it on closed circuit television?
I think the bigger threat is people dropping toxic gas or bombs down the ventilation shafts.
cause ventilation shafts will be found, eventually, no matter how well they hide them.
If there’s any kind of catastrophe, people are going to want the resources inside these things. They’re not going to destroy the bunkers, just their occupants. Yeah, gas would do the trick. I’d suggest starting with CS, just to send a message.
Then just cut the doors open and loot the supply hoards. Convenient that you can look these things up on the internet and save map pins to find them in case of need…
They could do like submarines and have air scrubbers. That’d keep them going for a while with no vents.
The core hardware of a premium nuclear bunker air scrubber (like those from DEFCON Bunkers or [American Safe Room]) lasts 5 to 10 years. However, the actual CBRN filters (gas and particulate) require replacement every 6 to 12 months when operating, while the primary HEPA filter can last for years in dry, non-contaminated environments.
Bunker air filtration : r/preppers https://share.google/1ocXyhrcvc9nSWYoc
Unless they have a biodiverse ecosystem and infinite energy, they’ll eventually need some input from outside of their bunkers.
They only have so many replacement filters, if you keep pumping carbon monoxide in (heavier than air, so it will sink and be harder to pump out), the life support systems will break.
I would bury them after the welding, then scout where the escape hatches and weld and bury them too… Then the air system…
Yeah, make their bunkers their tombs. And the antisocial distance is poetic.
This would just lead them to store gas-axes in their bunkers. What i dont imagine they can counter, however, would be the urge to leave once the air system is sabotaged and the crowd outside is sat waiting.
Gas masks don’t help with total lack of oxygen. All you have to do is send pure nitrogen down the ventilation shafts, even if they tanked O2, that’s maybe 10 hours per tank per person - how many tanks do you think they got with their $55K “Villa de Armageddon”?
I don’t think that any outcome they foresee will have any relation to what will actually happen.
The funniest part would be watching these chucklefucks trying to operate cutting equipment
And cement the air vents shut too
But then what would we shit down?
This place is a message… and part of a system of messages… pay attention to it!
Sending this message was important to us. We considered ourselves to be a powerful culture.
This place is not a place of honor… no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here… nothing valued is here.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
And then there’s the security question … what’s to stop their ‘guards’ from realizing that they could be living securely -without- the boss?
I think shock collars was the last answer I heard from billionaires. I don’t think they think things through all the way.
Gonna be a tough sell getting someone to wear one of those.
Money-obsessed persons are not capable of understanding concepts other than money.
Why do you think they’re so interested in AI powered robot dogs?
Obviously they have their own weaknesses but it’s going to help prevent human-level coups.
Also psych AI to watch facial movements to check for disloyalty, (presumably at some point).
You would have thought that the people making these shelters would have learned from Covid that they simply can’t crawl in a hole and stay safe. The wealthy are used to soft easy living and a underclass of people who do what they tell them to because of their money.
If we really had a society ending disease or event they wouldn’t last two weeks before they came out of their bunkers looking for entertainment because they were bored. You couldn’t tell most of them to stay inside or even wear a fucking mask during Covid.
On top of that they may have the skills to make money but the skills a P.E. Investor has from raiding healthy companies and pilfering assets is not the same skill set needed to lead people when money has no meaning and/or form collective groups to survive.
Without a government and its protection, the wealthy are just going to end up dead with the head of security for the bunker fucking their trophy wife.
So… become the head of security for a billionare, got it.
A consultant reported that billionaires, when confronted with the idea that the private security team have no incentive to continue to obey the billionaire once society had collapsed, asked the consultant how they could maintain control of the security team, such as if shock collars or locking up all the food would work.
The consultant suggested they simply treat the security team really well beforehand, like just being a good friend.
The billionaires then became concerned, and I shit you not, asked “but where does that end?”
I’ll try to find the link to add it here.
Edit: Here it is.
Simply treat the security team really well beforehand, like just being a good friend… billionaires then asked “but where does that end?”
This is how you know they have become a net detriment to society. This is why they believe so strongly in things like “return to office” “no UBI” and poverty level minimum wages.
Yeah… No billionaire knows how to exist without exploiting labour. They aren’t going to be going into their bunkers without security, chefs, cleaners, or entertainers. There’s so much cognitive dissonance required to simultaneously believe that the government/world is going to be destroyed, but you will safe and still have a legal right to property.
The only thing that maintains their wealth is the legal and economic system they use to exploit other people’s work. Without it their property is just going to be seized by the first person who is quicker on the draw.
I mean I’m about a billion dollars short of being a billionaire, and I don’t know how to live without exploiting labor either. I can’t farm, I can’t hunt, I can’t identify edible berries, roots, and mushrooms, I can’t sew beyond fixing a button. I know a lot about mechanisms, but it’s far from clear to me I could do anything useful in that field once the electricity is out, let alone once source metal starts getting hard to find. Everything would get so much harder so quickly. Hell, I don’t even know how to dig a latrine that’ll prevent the water supply from being contaminated, assuming we can find a water supply. (On the plus side, sources of pollution in water supplies should start to fall apart pretty fast.)
I dunno. I just think everyone thinking about the collapse wildly underestimates how hard everything will be. I can’t really picture my sorry ass lasting long at all.
Eh… There’s a difference between utilizing or societally benefiting someone else’s labour and exploiting someone for their labour. Exploitation in an economic sense generally requires you to capitally monopolize a persons excess production value for personal gain. You can’t really be considered exploitive unless you own the means of production. Basically unless you are a business owner or employ someone you aren’t really participating in capitalism in an exploitive manner.
I guess I didn’t drill down into the exploitation aspect, yeah. The people actually doing the jobs I don’t know how to do–mining, farming, sewing, etc.–are at this point almost entirely disadvantaged people in other countries, who are being woefully underpaid and subjected to terrible conditions. (A lot of farming is also done here, but it’s still by exploited foreign workers, so…) And a bunch of that relies on other systems too, like farming being done by as few workers as it is depends on fertilizers from the petrochemical industries, which are hurting people EVERYWHERE. I wouldn’t be able to afford anything if it weren’t discounted in this way. Even if there was no actual apocalypse, and only the exploitation went away, it’s not at all clear to me that I would have a way to keep myself alive.
Oh for sure, capitalism is built on exploitation, and it makes everyone rely on the system of exploitation that it creates. My main point is that you as an individual are not really responsible for that exploitation. The reason you are reliant on cheap imported labour in the first place is because you yourself are likely a worker being exploited by a person capitalizing on your labor.
only the exploitation went away, it’s not at all clear to me that I would have a way to keep myself alive.
Just because exploitation theoretically disappears doesn’t mean there wouldn’t be another system of labour and resources organization to replace it. Every form of labour is equally important so long as it fulfills a need for society. There can only be so many farmers or minors.
Have you seen billionaire wives? I’ll pass
Oh I wouldn’t care for the wife so much, in fact I’d likely throw her out as well, but a free fully stocked doomsday bunker sounds pretty nifty.
They usually hire ex special forces for that role
