The US has had centuries of the conservative white majority consistently trying to suppress the vote of minorities and the youth. Hundreds of thousands of voters were purged from the voter rolls shortly before the 2024 elections, with a majority of those purged being minorities. Sauce: https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/

Many conservative states put fewer polling locations in poor communities. They block measures to make voting easier like same day registration and vote by mail.

Stop demonizing people that have been systematically disempowered. The Republicans in the Senate are about to shut down all other business in an attempt to strip married women of the right to vote.

I’m not sure why people like you feel so confident that some small segment of vocal lefties lost the democrats the election. They are such a small percentage of the actually voting population and strategic voting is just not how most people vote.

Because then they’d have to confront the fact that there was whole list of popular (with everyone, not just the left) issues that the democrats where turning their noses up at, not just Kamala’s promise to keep Joe’s genocide going.

But it is funny how the anti-genocide folks are the ones they’re blaming the most for their defeat. No one is hissing at people who wanted single-payer health care for instance. Totally a real winning strategy and not just another smear job paid for by AIPAC.

Maybe it was the fact that Kamala was fake as hell, or maybe that the Democratic canvassers knocked on people’s doors (including mine) two dozen times before the election, even though I told them every. single. time. that I was voting for her.

Or hell, maybe it’s that she called Gen Z voters dumb after they clenched the 2022 midterms. Or maybe it’s the fact that they didn’t primary a candidate. They kept saying Biden was going to run again and then tried to use his popularity to force us to vote for her. I’m sorry, but that faded Obama magic doesn’t transfer from one candidate to another, especially when Biden was so-so at best with almost no charisma. I was already pissed that we got the rug pull with Bernie for Biden in 2020. To not even get a fucking primary for 2024 has left me beyond bitter.

Still, I voted for her and Fetterman. I will not vote for a candidate I don’t believe in again. At this point, I’m writing in a third-party name. If the establishment can’t learn, then let them burn. Don’t bother with whatever guilt trip of a response you might have. I’m sick of feckless leaders. I will always vote, but I won’t hold my nose for the establishment anymore. Fascism is here, and the ratcheting fuckers of the Democratic Party are useless. It’s just too bad. Trump is essentially burning the country to the ground, but the flames won’t hit the support beams until they can blame the Democrats, and, like always, it will work. Politics piss me off so much.

Ah, but it’s not just those who voted this way. It’s more those who actively supported this idea and were pushing for people not to vote because of it. We’ll never have certainty about how much of an impact it made on the actual vote but I think any reasonable person would concede by this point that the consequences of the result they were advocating for have been much, much worse than just picking the lesser evil even if you believe that lesser evil allowed an unrestrained Israel to conduct genocide. I do think the facts contradict that claim anyway since we’ve seen Israel’s actions rise to a whole another level after Trump has truly let the Netanyahu government loose but even if that wasn’t the case there’s a lot more harm being done both domestically and abroad in addition to that all continuing.

It’s also not just the presidential election by the way, in a world where the House had been under Democratic control we’d probably have seen Trump limited in meaningful ways over the past year.

some small segment of vocal lefties

Most if not all of them were bots and right-wing trolls, operating with the objective of suppressing Democratic Party turnout. The remainder (if any) were just gullible.

Only speaking as a Canadian, but I highly doubt you’d have a president openly threatening the sovereignty of foreign nations, completely alienating your closest allies for over a century forcing them to stop trade with you, and overall make you an international laughing stock.

Sure you might still have gotten a war, but it’s everything else that is uniquely Trump.

Yeah, what else was it? 😀 How would Kamala have been worse than this? I am genuinely interested 😀

Nope, your “nothing matters everyone is the same” bullshit is wrong. There are different levels of harm and the far right is objectively more harmful to more people.

Put it behind a 10 dollar ticket and some good could be done with the billions of dollars.

If they don’t put the shareholders first, the shareholders can sue the company.

The thing that gets you sued is not doing what you say you’re supposed to be doing. And that entirely depends on what it says in the corporate charter. A corporation is only obligated to maximize quarterly shareholder returns if they don’t clearly state otherwise. And it’s never been the stock price, it’s been dividends (which drive the stock price). And you’ll notice that quite a lot of software firms don’t turn a profit for many years and pay no dividends. And yet they’re not sued by shareholders, because they openly announced that that was what their strategy was.

The war crimes he’s committing are far more atrocious than anything he could have possibly done with Epstein.

Yeah, but unfortunately the severity of the political consequences for each does not correlate well with the severity of the offense, especially for the person living in the bubble of the US Presidency. Double especially a Republican one!

When it comes to their voters, a president like W or Trump is pretty much expected to generate a steady flow of corpses of dehumanized non-people on the other side of the world somewhere.

But release just one video of Trump raping a child, or one pic of Trump blowing Bubba, and that’s literally a thousand times worse. There are so many millions of ignorant people who just go along with what they’re taught and have reinforced through echo chambers. They are seasoned pros at making excuses for their cult leader and looking past faults. His crimes are him being a shrewd and smart businessman. His cheating and predatory behaviors are because he’s a lion among men who drowns women in testosterone if he doesn’t move along.

But a real pic of him with a dick in his mouth? Like, corroborated with sources by multiple journalists who release it at the same time? Imagine the number of supporters Trump has lost because of Gaza, Iran, and all military stuff combined over the past decade. He loses 10x that number within in the first day after the pic. It’s a horrible thing to say, but it’s true.