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  • Evil Ultra trying to split the vote 😠

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  • The actionable choice has nothing to do with voting. It has everything to do with organizing, be it in your workplace or your community. You have to create structures that can actually hamstring the power of the state to oppress you and those you care about. You can argue these are unrealistic or not actionable but history shows us that this is actually how progress is made. Even in the US the abolitionist movement, labor movement, and the civil rights movement did not win their demands through strategic voting.

    If you want to argue that getting stabbed in the lung is more survivable… okay sure. But you’re an idiot if you think fighting back and trying to disarm your attacker isn’t the rational choice, especially when Americans by and large can’t just pick up and leave. It’s fight or flight but you’re here arguing for people to just accept their demise.

  • It Can Now Be Plainly Said: Trump Is Planning a November Coup d’État

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  • They knew that their base wouldn’t turn out for a candidate who supported a genocide. They decided to run one anyways. They thought making sure Israel could continue its genocide was more important than winning against Trump. But yeah sure blame the people who aren’t sociopaths.

  • It Can Now Be Plainly Said: Trump Is Planning a November Coup d’État

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  • Imperialists and colonialists share the same beliefs as fascists. They just disagree on whether or not it’s time to turn the violence of the imperialist machine in on itself. As the decline of America continues, eventually the imperialist are guaranteed to relent and side with the fascists.

    On top of that the DNC no legal obligation to run democratic primaries. Regardless of whatever wins democratic socialists have made, they’re so far from actually wielding enough power to meaningfully reform the American system. If they had any chance of success under the current rules then the DNC would just change them. The obvious conclusion is that voting alone will not stop the rise of fascism. It literally the least you can possible do.

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  • Scratch a liberal…

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  • Americans on average are far better off than is necessary for people to risk trying to overthrow their government. Most of them still have a place to sleep and food to eat. There’s no guarantee that will remain the case indefinitely.

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  • The choice between genocide and slightly less genocide is no choice at all. That’s like asking someone to choose between being stabbed in the lung or the heart. Both are likely to kill you. Any reasonable person in that situation would be doing everything in their power to find another way. Arguing that being stabbed in the lung is somehow the rational choice is ridiculous.

  • Evil Ultra trying to split the vote 😠

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  • It’s not common knowledge but there is no legal requirement for either party to run democratic primary elections. They used to just pick candidates with no public input. They opened up voting as a concession to their supporters. However, they did so in a way that allows party officials to tip the scales in their favor.

    The cruel irony is that the democrats actually have a less democratic primary than republicans simply because their voters interests are not aligned with the interests of party officials. Of course republicans party officials don’t care about democracy either but neither do their voters.

  • There's No "Progressive Foreign Policy" Without a Reckoning for Dems Who Supported Genocide

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  • I mean democrats voted to give weapons to Israel knowing full well they were using those weapons to carry out a genocide. That’s by definition pro-genocide behavior. They’re a group of people who were happy to enable the mass murder of innocent people including children because that’s what their donors wanted.

    Vote for them is you must but you can’t rely on people like that to defend you from fascists. They’ll sell you out the second your life becomes an inconvenience to their wealthy backers. Those backers also happen to be the the same people busy funding Trump’s fascist project. You have to do more than vote to protect yourself and the people you care about.

  • There's No "Progressive Foreign Policy" Without a Reckoning for Dems Who Supported Genocide

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  • All genocides are crimes that should be stopped. The US and Israel are primarily responsible for the genocide in Gaza. They might have roles to play in other ongoing genocides but it’s less direct. For US voters, the genocide their own politicians are voting to fund is of primary concern as it’s the one they have the most capacity to stop.

  • There's No "Progressive Foreign Policy" Without a Reckoning for Dems Who Supported Genocide

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  • It’s wild to me that people don’t seem to understand that anyone who supports genocide out of political convenience will immediately sell their constituents out to fascists the moment it benefits them. It’s like they can’t conceive of how horrible of a crime genocide actually is. Choosing between two supporters of genocide is no choice at all.

  • There's No "Progressive Foreign Policy" Without a Reckoning for Dems Who Supported Genocide

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  • There’s more to do to prevent the rise of fascism than vote. The democrats aren’t going to save you.

  • There's No "Progressive Foreign Policy" Without a Reckoning for Dems Who Supported Genocide

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  • The people who didn’t vote because they were disillusioned by the democrats support for genocide are not really the demographic of people you’re arguing with online.

    This isn’t about purity at all either. It’s just fact that democrats chose to support genocide knowing it would hurt their chance of success and they lost because of it. They consciously risked losing to fascists in order to support genocide. If you understand that then you’ll realize democrats are not truly opposed to fascism and that voting won’t do anything to stop its rise.

  • There's No "Progressive Foreign Policy" Without a Reckoning for Dems Who Supported Genocide

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  • Yes we know, the democratic party is in favor of genocide and they are the only viable opposition to republicans who are also in favor of genocide. The difference is the democrat party’s base of support is generally not in favor of genocide while republican voters are. If democrats choose to lose the support of their base then they will have a hard time winning back the house, senate, or presidency. It’s that simple. All the blame for Trump’s win lies with the party and nobody else.

  • There's No "Progressive Foreign Policy" Without a Reckoning for Dems Who Supported Genocide

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  • Accepting supporters of genocide in any way is the kind of Faustian bargain that guarantees fascism’s rise. You have to understand almost all voters are not applying the game theory you’re holding so tightly to. You can’t convince the mass of voters to do that either. Instead, most people understand that someone who claims to have empathy but simultaneously supports genocide is an untrustworthy snake. That’s enough to kill any sort of enthusiasm the democratic base might have had for any particular candidate. You don’t win that enthusiasm back by saying that a snake is better than a shark. The only real way for democrats to win then if for them to renounce their support for genocide. As the only real opposition to Trump they’re responsible for the consequences if they choose not to.

  • There's No "Progressive Foreign Policy" Without a Reckoning for Dems Who Supported Genocide

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  • Biden still allowed for family separation during deportations alongside the whole remain in Mexico thing for asylum seekers. Democrats also consistently voted in favor of giving more money to DHS. Foreign policy didn’t change much under Biden. He continued the trade war against China, Trump’s designation of Cuba as a state sponsor of terror, and unlimited support for Israel’s genocide. He also decided to keep Space Force and maintained a lack of transparency around drone strikes that Trump initiated. That’s not the end of it either. There’s a litany of other disgusting Trump policies Biden’s administration also decided to embrace.

    A lot of what I listed is pretty easy to verify. It’s also not unique. Obama oversaw the expansion of the surveillance state that started under Bush. Clinton continued rolling back welfare programs just as Bush and Reagan had. This is just what politicians do. They pretend to be opposed to everything their opponents do and then when they get into office they just put a fresh coat of paint on some deeply inhuman policies.

  • There's No "Progressive Foreign Policy" Without a Reckoning for Dems Who Supported Genocide

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  • You know nothing about the intercept or the author of this article do you? Not every criticism of the democrats is GOP propaganda you know.

  • Bill Gates Admits ‘Affairs’ With Russian Women as He Apologizes to Foundation Staff Over Epstein Ties: Report

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  • Never give a billionaire credit for philanthropy. It’s either a PR scheme, tax evasion loophole, or vanity project for them. You don’t get that kind of money in the first place by being anything other than a sociopath and that’s not something that can be cured.

  • Bill Gates Admits ‘Affairs’ With Russian Women as He Apologizes to Foundation Staff Over Epstein Ties: Report

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  • I don’t think Billionaires like Gates were corrupted by their money. Rather, I think only narcissistic sociopaths care to do all the fuck of things necessary to amass that kind of wealth and power. Anyone with a conscious would stop much earlier.

  • Bill Gates Admits ‘Affairs’ With Russian Women as He Apologizes to Foundation Staff Over Epstein Ties: Report

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  • Almost certainly the latter. Gates has some of the best PR money can buy. Every damning revelation that has come out linking him to Epstein has been paired with Gates admitting to some less serious transgression.