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      From the low res photos he seems like he might be hot. Two hot shooters in a row? IDK what this means for fall and spring shooting trends, but I like it.

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        Until Thomas Matthew Crooks I used to think that going by three names was the key element to being an assassin, but maybe it was being hot all along.

        Maybe that’s why Lee Harvey Oswald was killed. Not because somebody was upset he’d shot Kennedy, but out of jealousy he was going to be knee deep in clunge.

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    A lot of these rewards have small print that says that reward is for substantial information that leads to the arrest and CONVICTION of a suspect. The suspect has been arrested, but not yet convicted. Maybe they’ll get their money at the end, if Luigi gets convicted, which I highly doubt.

    Otherwise, people would just be turning in randos for the rewards. They have to be credible enough suspects that they can be convicted.

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      Given how much information they lost during DOGE’s bullshit. I don’t think they bothered to record who the person was or even cared. Also they have a notorious reputation of never paying people.

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    No one will get paid any reward. Some corrupt official is going to pocket that money.

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        A lot of people are saying Trump sent the hit. Is it a joke or do you actually think he might’ve?

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            Not only that, but the embarrassment that was the birthday letter probably drove him to want to get attention off it as quickly as possible.

            Also Trump is dying. He wants to cause as much hell as he can before he goes. The shitstorm this has done is really bad.

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          Its a half-joke.

          Kinda like “Bush did 9/11”, it’s possible, nothing is really out of the realm of possibility, but sometimes life just happens, you talk shit too much for too long and someone will have a problem with you.

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          I’m not saying they aren’t capable of a a False Flag hit, after all they already did it once with the assassination hoax. I just doubt they’d hit their most successful and popular recruiter/indoctrinator. They really missed that position after Limbaugh assumed room temperature, and it looked like Ben Shapiro would be the one, then CK rose and took the spot. He was extremely valuable to the MAGA mission, and would have been for decades. Now they need to go to their bench and groom someone new.

          OTOH, apparently he was demanding the release of the Epstein Files, and someone of his influence could cause a lot of trouble. Sure, he recruits a lot of new conservative voters, but that’s not so important if you aren’t planning on having any more elections.

          So, maybe it was the MAGA Nazis, they certainly are capable of a lot worse. All I know is that whoever they arrest, and claims did it, is innocent, no matter what evidence they claim to have.

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          I think if you look at everything that his administration is doing, I definitely believe that they are trying to stir up enough shit to get people to lash out, and then they will declare martial law and then we will effectively have a new monarchy in the USA.

          Do I really think that Trump would have someone killed just to change the national conversation? Of course he would, without any problem. However, I don’t think Trump had him killed mostly because I don’t think Trump is running the show. When I compare his first administration to his second, they are clearly not being run by the same people.

          Trump is also obviously as bad off as Biden was at the end. He’s a zombie puppet that gets dragged out for show.

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    No one ever gets those rewards, or if they do, it’s a couple hundred dollars for all your time they wasted.

    Doesn’t help to snitch to the government.

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    I think it was Herschel, the Cracker Barrel Cracker that got canceled and reborn in a matter of days. He shot Charlie Kirk b/c he got canceled. Btw, that crowd in Utah was so white that mayonnaise was labeled spicy at the food court on campus. Also this, if the mf’er didn’t want to get shot, why in thee hell did he go to a school that coincidentally rolled back their policies regarding weapons/firearms on campus? There is that.

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      Probably specifically to make a point about how it’s safer when there are good guys with guns or whatever

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          And I do feel safer knowing there’s one less whackjob propagandist out there… Maybe they were actually onto something and just didn’t realize who the good guys were?

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    They won’t. Trump has made a career out of stiffing the little guy, why would this time be any different?

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      Here is one…

      After initial news broke that they didn’t dial the right number (she called 911, not the 1-800 tip line) officials walked it back and said maaaybe but we won’t know until a conviction is final.

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    How do we know they didn’t get the reward for the tip on Luigi?

    I genuinly don’t know, it doesn’t look to be a source here.

    edit: Rewards are awarded after a conviction

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/luigi-mangione-mccdonalds-worker-reward-b2663966.html

    Since most rewards require a conviction, Larry might have to wait until a trial completes, which could take a year or more, the Associated Press reported.

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      The joke is that OP is trying to discourage other people from reporting the shooter by implying that any promised financial reward is simply a ruse.

      … Honestly it’s a noble enough goal, I don’t see much need to debunk it.

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        So baseless thought. It would be interesting to consider the moral implications of taking money to uphold the law as it is.

        I seriously doubt OP had a joke in mind, i think they didn’t check if anyone actually got a reward and really thought no one did.

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    I don’t know about y’all, but I know for sure who shot Kirk. It was the old man that lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW in Washington, D.C… He is constantly using violent rhetoric and threatening anyone not white. He’s scaring the neighbors. That’s the guy that did it.

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      I heard for the Kirk shooting they were looking for a lunatic on a roof and I saw a video of some one fitting that exact description on the roof of the address you provided. The FBI should be looking into this.

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      Kirk probably wouldn’t be dead right now if Trump wasn’t elected, I fully believe that in some way or another

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      You know, I was actually like “Kirk who?” for a second.

      May we all move on to “Kirk who?” that quickly.

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        I’m still not fully sure who he was. 3 days ago, I’d never heard the name.

        Now suddenly the GOP are treating this as some holy figure bound to create conspiracy theories. Which will be parroted on Fox News, which means by 2pm, parroted by Trump himself.

        …and other than being a GOP podcaster, I still have no idea who he was.

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            school shootings are the price for being able to own guns

            Not just the price, but a worthy price. I find it ironic that he himself has now been victim of a school shooting.

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              Exactly. The word Irony is often used incorrectly these days, but THIS is a perfect example of classic irony - he excuses school shootings as a necessary part of American life, and then he dies in a school shooting.

              That’s putting your money where your mouth is. I’d almost respect it, but no MAGA deserves any respect.

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            Well I guess the public shooting of him was just the cost of gun ownership in this country. Don’t worry. He doesn’t want you to feel bad for him. Remember, he’s AGAINST empathy! So you should honor his wishes, and not feel any empathy at all for him.

            I would continue to use his own words against him, but firstly, I don’t know anything else about him. Not that I’m complaining. Seems to me everything about him just pisses me off. So for my own mental health, I’m ok being ignorant about this guy.

            But secondly, I’m so far behind the game on this, that I fear any cynical jokes I make at his expense might be new to me, but for everybody else I’d be going through the old reruns of obvious jokes. With me being the only one who hadn’t heard them before.

            So instead, maybe we all set up a nationwide activity. We all go pee on his grave. C’mon! It’ll be like hands across America. Except instead of raising money for AIDS research during it’s infancy, we’ll instead be whipping out our cocks, and pissing on this assholes grave. And ladies, I didn’t forget about you. I’ll be selling funnels with tubes duct taped to them. So you don’t have to miss out on the piss fest!

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              Well I guess the public shooting of him was just the cost of gun ownership in this country. Don’t worry. He doesn’t want you to feel bad for him. Remember, he’s AGAINST empathy! So you should honor his wishes, and not feel any empathy at all for him.

              Perfect.

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          You aren’t his audience. He was almost exclusively speaking to young men, and was very successful in recruiting and indoctrinating young conservatives. He is a major reason that Trump had such large support among young men.

          He had taken Rush Limbaugh’s place as MAGAs top recruiter/indoctrinator, and they thought he’d go for decades. Now they have to groom someone new, again.

          If it was an outsider, it shows some strong, long-term strategic thinking. He heloed prevent DECADES of conservative damage.

          On the other hand, he’s been calling for release of the Epstein Files, and with his audience reach, he could do serious damage to Trump. Perhaps the MAGAs figured he’d served his purpose, helped get Trump reelected, and since there aren’t going to be any more elections, his purpose has been served, and his notoriety can be exploited in a different way - as a martyr.

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            He helped prevent DECADES of conservative damage.

            Meh, right-wing talking heads like him are a dime a dozen. The real power is in the media that feature them.

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          I’m still not fully sure who he was. 3 days ago, I’d never heard the name.

          I knew there was some guy who was being parodied for his tiny face, but that was it.

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    I 100% assume that the McDonald’s employee who called on him is fake in some way, and they tracked him down through some kind of spy apparatus shit and just don’t want to give away their methods.

    I have no evidence and I don’t really know how these things work, it just seems way way more plausible to me.

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      The method that totally wouldn’t have been used was to have a foreign ally in Five Eyes track all cell phones and correlate the information with security cameras. Then they share the intelligence with the US. Technically on the edge of legal but they know the shit storm if americans generally knew how surveilled they are. We literally would hand them all our related files, ask them to spot suspects, and hand us back the answer. The soaking version of surveillance.

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        Part of the point of the Snowden leaks was that they don’t completely give a shit about those limitations. I’m sure the details vary in various parts of the apparatus, but as I understand it they don’t even really bother with the fig leaf anymore (even as of that pretty long ago time at this point).

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      Ok, I’ll accept this conspiracy theory and add to it:

      It was actually the surveillance software in the AI drive through.

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      That could be. I’m still vouching for the “conspiracy” that Luigi actually didn’t do anything but was selected as a lookalike scapegoat. The similar looks is what prompted the McDonald employee to call, and they incompetently called the police instead of the tip line.

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        I haven’t heard that his defense team is trying to claim that… I feel like if that was reality they would have. Maybe not, but I feel it.

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          What would the defense say? “That wasn’t him, just someone who looks similar.”
          They already claim that by pleading innocent at the start.

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            Not really… “not guilty” can mean, he didn’t do it, or else he was temporarily insane because he was in pain from his medical condition, or even Ed Snowden’s “yeah I did it and it was illegal but at the end of the day I was right to do it and I think I can convince a jury of that.” Or just the OJ Simpson “let’s talk about something else for a while and change the subject” defense. It could be a lot of things.

            But I do get it that that might be their defense and they’re just not saying anything about it because they’re waiting for the trial to lay out anything at all about it.

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            Well thats the thing. Nobody in the history of court has plead innocent. Thats not a thing. You can plead guilty, no contest, or not guilty.

            And “not guilty” isn’t the same as “innocent”

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          A good defense team doesn’t go around screaming what their defense strategy is going to be. Just because they aren’t telling YOU, doesn’t mean they have a bad defense strategy. They drop their bombs when the time is right.

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            Yeah. Sometimes for high-profile cases, lawyers have a habit of giving press conferences and things, but that’s kind of an exception to the norm and not necessarily a good idea I think.

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          Proving Luigi wasn’t there somehow would be their job in court. Considering he was arrested, there may not be a clearly provable alibi like in To Kill A Mockingbird.

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      It’s like the police always saying that they find a “passport” in the truck after some terrorist attack. They have inside informers and they don’t want to disclose them.

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      Even if the tip was useful they can just claim to wasn’t and just not pay it out. Not like there’s an oversize process for it. Once they have the guy they can find the trail with whatever data they have and say they did it without the tip.

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      this isn’t a conspiracy theory to the people saying it is. these systems are well attested to exist already. predictive policing is already being used. fucking watch yourselves. big brother sees all.