Reinventing church numerals as a rationalisation for grocery checkout hijinks - I absolutely love this.

By the way, I’m the only one of us that ever got upvoted, so sure you won the hearts and minds (who the fuck cares about that lmao) and noone’s reading this shit now

… I don’t care about votes either? Which is why I never mentioned them. Why are you bringing them into in this in the same sentence you establish how much you don’t care about them / the audience reaction? I guess I’m glad we’re on the same page about votes, but it’s weird for someone who supposedly doesn’t care to have brought them up at all.

(Total side note: I don’t know if you know yet, vote totals aren’t the same across instances. Many instances go so far as to defederate from lemvotes (.ml included, I believe), so it can be difficult for users from there to check actual vs. displayed vote totals. This makes it fairly pointless to use vote totals in an argument, (as for example) right now on my client, neither one of us have any up/down votes after our very initial comments.)

You were the one making unnecessary corrections when quoting me to begin with

Nnno? Where did I do that?

you have not provided a single argument against that even onceso I guess you must agree.

Budude, you can do better than this. “I said nu-uh about your arguments, so that means you agree!” is entertaining I’ll grant you, but it’s not exactly well founded. You’re welcome to explain how the definition of censorship doesn’t apply to what .ml does but somehow does to .world, but well, there’s probably a good reason you’re trying to discredit the idea of the definition itself rather than actually engage with the argument.

Good luck becoming an English teacher or something!

Entertainingly I spend far more time lecturing about formal languages than my counterparts in lit. One of those amusing quirks of compsci…

“I don’t care what wikipedia says” oh I’m gonna need some popcorn for this one.

Listen, you’re trying the troll approach here, honing in on the whole grammar thing, and sure! Good attempt! But being a grammar nazi like this is only gonna frustrate you - the internet got over thinking it was cool behavior a decade ago, and now it just comes across as insecure and/or overcompensation. Like for example, it’s worryingly telling that when I corrected my own typo you saw it and assumed I was correcting yours - but seriously, again, I promise I do not care about your lack of familiarity (or lack of lack of familiarity) with the language.

Anyways / I promise, you’re not going to get a rise out of me with this approach. You’ve established you’re not an authority on english prose, and while that is not a reflection of your character in itself, it does reflect on you that you’re trying to present yourself as an authority. Shifting tack into trying the whole “reject everything and insist you’re right to frustrate them” routine is really boring, so for the sake of sparing myself responding to the rest of this I’m instead just going to leave you with the following rather self-exemplifying wisdom:

It’s just the two of us here any more, so I can just come out and say that you’ve long since “lost” this (not that that’s a particularly useful outlook), and there’s really nothing for you to gain here. I’m not, nor have I ever been, trying to convince you that what I said was correct (it speaks for itself); I was trying to convince the audience - which I rather evidently did.

This is why I’m boucing around so much tonally: I don’t have any real goal in mind, and I’m certainly not trying to get a rise out of you like you are in turn. I’m just bored, and it’s always interesting to see how behavior like this plays out. My apologies if it gets overly purple, I do sometimes write with my own amusement as the goal.

Feel free to go on doing what you want though - I for sure don’t mind. I’m quite looking forward to a denial of your earlier quote confusion, which should prove to be a tricky thing to convincingly present! I believe in you though, you’ve got this lil’ buddy (a diminutive I only include because of it’s contraction)

(consolidating my responses so as to not fracture the thread)

Both spellings are correct.

The spelling y’all is the most prevalent in print, 10 times that of ya’ll; much less common spelling variants include yall, yawl, and yo-all. ^(source)

You’re the only one here attempting to leverage ‘reading comprehension’ and minor semantic issues into a reflection of character - I very much do not care. There are plenty of typos in both our comments (for example, I corrected one of mine in the comment you’re replying to), and such errors are in the nature of the written medium. Your attempt at posturing about reading comprehension earlier was in response to a statement you made that was structurally ambiguous, which I demonstrated and then moved on. I don’t make value judgements about another person based on their facility with a language; as you yourself may be an example of, this is an international community, not a middle school english exam.

To really drive home the point about how tedious such nonsense is:

NOUN: Censorship (plural censorships):
1.) The use of state or group power to control freedom of expression or press, such as passing laws to prevent undesirable media from being published or propagated. ^(source)

I’m curious what you think the other example is if not censorship, because it sure appears to meet the definition.

Insane high effort

… 30 seconds with a decades old grammar checker.

I believe I addressed the bulk of what you’re saying already:

[…] litigating how [the] minor differences in the scope of censorship don’t particularly change their impact sounds like a real waste of my time plus it’s largely beside the point.

You can tell yourself you’re part of a special group and it doesn’t count when ya’ll do it because actually you’re not doing it in exactly the same way so that makes heavy-handed censorship okay, but lol.

You still haven’t provided any proof of your accusations, you’re mostly just being annoying.

Aside from your own repeated labeling of things you don’t like as “liberal” and “wack” so you can dismiss them, there are ample sources discussed elsewhere in this comment section. I encourage you to take the initiative and educate yourself on the people you associate with; learning is fun!

What isn’t ambiguous is that you’ve already described equivalent behavior from .ml as ‘totally fair’:

No, it just doesn’t accept wack opinions, which is totally fair. World consists of mostly wack opinions, while piefed is created with the purpose of only showing wack opinions.

.ml censors “wrongthink”, which evidently is the majority of things found on .world and all of what’s found through piefed (unless you want to try and argue that “wack” isn’t “wrongthink”, which please do that it would be very funny). The difference between not allowing almost everything from an instance (or possibly an entire activitypub interface) because it’s “wackthink” and what the OP is requesting, blocking an instance wholesale, is pretty minor - and litigating how there minor differences in the scope of censorship don’t particularly change their impact sounds like a real waste of my time plus it’s largely beside the point. Criticizing someone else for not wanting opinions they disagree with in their ‘echo chamber’, when you’re outright admitting to (and nigh on openly advocating for) doing exactly the same thing, is hypocritical.

… Comparing to animals? Weasel in this case is a verb, do you also mean “game?” (Edit: Ohhh sorry, ape. I hesitate to point this out, but that was (presumably) a 100% accurate comparison)

Anyways: describing entire instances as being full of “wrongthink” is… spectacularly not a defense of the criticism here. “From my perspective the jedi are evil liberals” is not a convincing argument. The topic has been from the start that this is a hypocritical thing to decry another user over and I’ve been very open about that - the censorship is a secondary topic used to illustrate the original point. Go look at any of the dedicated communities for evidence if you’re genuinely interested; I’m not looking to play three card montte and bailey about the tendencies of an instance with exhaustively well documented behavior you yourself serve as an example of.

Nah, that’s very much the issue that was being discussed - I was just dragging the discussion to absurdity in an attempt to highlight your behavior to you. Ah well. To be less subtle: You’re trying to spin this by asserting that it’s only fascists et. al that are censored, when that simply isn’t the case and has never been the claim I made. Your instance has a pattern of censoring damn near everything that disagrees - and slaps the label of zionism / fascism / liberalism on anything you dislike to justify the censorship (behavior you ape here).

It’s a game attempt to weasel your way out of having (at least tacitly) said .ml is an echo chamber, but nah, nobody is falling for it. You can baselessly dance around outright calling me a liberal all you want (lmao), but that only reinforces that the OP’s desire to find an instance that doesn’t allow your own instance’s “wack opinions” and bad faith interaction is behavior you can’t criticize without massive hypocrisy.

(edit: weird formatting issue, sorry!)

I’m glad we can agree that .ml is pro-censorship!

Huh, TIL!

Remoulade is a cold sauce. Although similar to tartar sauce, it is often more yellowish, sometimes flavored with curry, and often contains chopped pickles or piccalilli. It can also contain horseradish, paprika, anchovies, capers and a host of other condiments. It is often used as a condiment or dipping sauce, primarily for sole, plaice, and seafood cakes (such as crab or salmon cakes) but also served with meats. ^(source)

If you lie, you get spots on your tongue

Oh lmao the spots on your tongue thing is ancient. Transient lingual papillitis, also called “lie bumps”. Ton of cultures share the myth that you get them from lying - we don’t know what causes them (and fuck do they hurt) and they’re rarely talked about, so it’s always weird to run into that in the wild; it seems so absurd you’d never expect it to be as widespread as it is.

I was little and going through that “ask an unending stream of questions to figure out how the world works / determine the limits of your parent’s patience” phase. At one point during this my mother, who had up until this point used this as an opportunity to teach me how to research things and overall handled it with grace, began to hit her limit. And so one fine morning when I had perkily jammed myself underneath the toilet in a way that startled the living daylights out of her when she came in and I asked how toilets worked, she said in great exasperation “toilet gnomes, and you shouldn’t be down there bothering them”. This of course made perfect sense to me - someone had to crew the little boat, and humans would never fit in there.

I maintain to this day that it was an act of class solidarity that I shouldn’t be mocked for when, several days later, she found me pooping in the yard because I “didn’t want the gnomes to work too hard”.

So when this user doesn’t want “wack opinions” on an instance it’s bad and an echo chamber, but when .ml doesn’t allow “wack opinions” on their instance it’s… good and fair and not an echo chamber.

Hmm.

.ml is notorious for suppressing any dissenting opinion - both users and admins. You really have no grounds to be acting superior on this issue.

Yeah that’s been my experience. I’ve only ever had an issue with two people on there, and those were both just dumbass behavior that was pretty promptly handled. Even had some good discussions about anarchist theory (and in one case it’s applicability to the Sonic the Hedgehog universe), which was deeply refreshing.

The best thing I’ve found is packaging paperboard (the thick non-corrugated paper material cereal boxes and similarly packaged products are made from) - stiff enough to not flop even on big openings, but thin enough to slip under without risking a containment breach or trapping one of the spider’s legs (make sure it doesn’t have a crease though, as those can both lead to floppage and binding when slipping under the cup). We’ve got a chunk of it that lives with the dedicated SpiderScooper™ jar and I haven’t had a mishap yet! As a bonus it’s dense enough material that wasps can’t sting you through it like they can with cheaper paper (bulk mailers or clay-heavy papers like you get in junk mail seem to block that too though!) and it’s strong enough that it will support the weight of mice and similar small critters without much effort.

If you mean .ml then yeahhhh - there’s quite a few good niche communities and plenty of lovely users from there, but the crushing of even minor, polite dissent from the instance mods/admins is starting to become worryingly common. If you mean fedinsfw, it’s a smidgen bit too late for that warning lol. But either way thank you!

Wait the only thing .ml has defederated from is fedinsfw? How random…

Hmm. Have they released which government(s) were targeted yet? If it’s in the article I didn’t see it