• grue@lemmy.world
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    Three out of four of those corners (including the one in which the gummies are a misdemeanor) are also within the Navajo Nation. Kinda feels like that tribal jurisdiction ought to matter.

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      They do. And for most purposes each reservation is it’s own little defacto nation. They aren’t truly, but definitely in spirit lol.

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        They don’t necessarily. Historically they didn’t have jurisdiction over non-tribal members. Now there are some detainment powers, but it is not 100% clear still.

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        Each nation has its own agreement with the USA that defines these things, it’s weird. I think it’s in Wisconsin where tribe members retain hunting and fishing rights to a lake sold as a private lake, when cops showed up, they had to let them fish and hunt or the land would be returned to the tribe. As per the agreement from long ago.

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      Ummm that is a sold sort of. It is more clear now, but is history tribal police couldn’t reinforce the law or even detain non tribal members. After a supreme court ruling and a new federal law tribal place have some power over non-tribal members. But not to necessarily to the extent of other local law enforcement.

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      In his order, abortion is: Homicide after 15 weeks and before a 24-hour waiting period, Legal at your convenience, Legal at your convenience but only if the mother is in danger, Homicide after 18 weeks and before a 72-hour waiting period.

      The only way to perform an abortion on that spot that is 100% legal is if it is done before 15 weeks, after waiting 72 hours, and the mother’s life is in danger.

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      Clouds will form over the spot as a warm wind blows in from the southeast. Flecks of rain will fall and a slow rumble will build from below as the ground shakes and a hole appears from the fallen ground. A representative of each will be sent: a sheriff, an artist, a socially conscious libertarian, and a racist.

      They will each give you one gift and then the sheriff arrests you and takes you to be judged by the racists. The others watch on in quiet disapproval, to the abortion or the arrest it isn’t clear. The racist then says “As foretold, the skies open and you’re on trial in another state.”

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      Going out of your way to have an abortion exactly there?

      That sounds just like a satanic withcraft ritual.

      Not sure if there more or less steps, maybe it just IS considering abortion used to be a job for the local herbalist women.

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    Man my brain is toast.

    I was scratching my head wondering which state would ban gummy bears and why no one in the comments seemed curious about that.

    Then I realized weed gummies.

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    His pockets are only in two states each. He may be in physical possession of illegal drugs for that one state, but the drugs themselves may not be there. How would that be ruled?

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    Love me some Four Corners mischief. There is usually a food truck there serving Native American frybread - delicious!!!

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      Do they sell “Indian tacos?” I had that when I was working at a local TV station shooting news footage of a regional powwow and it was awesome. Taco ingredients on the frybread you’re talking about.

      I’m not meaning to be culturally insensitive. They called them Indian tacos, not me.

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        Yes, American Indians prefer to be called Indians, not native Americans. You’re not being insensitive.

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          In my experience, there seems to be a lot of disagreement on that point, but it is not my ethnicity, so I don’t feel like I’m right to speak on any of their behalves.

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          I live in a population area with a lot of native Americans, and I’ve literally never heard that before. I only hear a preference toward, “native” or “indigenous”.

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            have you ever asked them? My wife works on reservations. They unanimously want to be called Indian. CGP Grey has a video on it as well I’m pretty sure. And I think it’s pretty telling that the agency is called the Bureau of Indian Affairs and not the Bureau of Native American affairs. https://www.usa.gov/agencies/bureau-of-indian-affairs

            We’ve had plenty of reform of sports team names, you’d think they’d want to reform the actual federal agency name if it wasn’t what they wanted it to be called.

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              Yeah, I have. I wonder if it’s a difference of reservation versus non-reservation? I don’t really interact with people from the reservations, just people that have moved into the city. Really interesting, I’ll look for that video.

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              I generally try to avoid the whole thing and call any people who were there before the colonials came ‘indigenous,’ which applies to the peoples of Australia and Polynesia as it does the Americas.

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            because Indian can be confused with a billion+ other ppl in the world.
            the 'ol “feather or dot” question

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      Holy shit I haven’t thought about frybread in like, a decade and now you made me think about it. How dare you.

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      I miss fry bread sooo much. I always try to tell people it’s like funnel cake but simpler. I haven’t had it since I’ve been to Havasupai.

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      “Those where theoretical gummies to proof a point”

      Thats why they are “in his pocket” and now openly On display.

      Could also argue my left leg and pocket didnt cross the border, only my right did.

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      Habeus Corpus. Any judge would laugh a prosecutor out of the court if this was the only evidence.

      Then they would probably be fired.

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        What about credit card statements showing purchase history from a dispensary, smartphone location data of him going to said dispensary, Google account search history of searching for “dispensary near me” and ai facial recognition - assisted cctv footage of him buying it? I’m pretty sure the government can get that stuff fairly easily.

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          “Yes your honor but is there any evidence that my client was actually in possession of the marijuana”

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    I think of the Simpson’s episode with sideshow Bob and the 5 corners. I shoot you from here, the bullet passes through there, you die in x and fall into …

    Edit: if to of

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      I think it would be pretty much impossible to prove he had gummies in his pocket at the time. I also don’t know that Stephan Pastis is the right person to make an example of.

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        he also didn’t specify what kind of gummies

        They could have been caffeine gummies and he was talking about them being illegal in the eyes of the LDS church in Utah.

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    It’s either more or less than 25%, depending on whether he has the gummies in his left, right or back pocket.