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  • It seemed like that was a real possibility in the last one so you never know. People like simple answers and conservatives play on that tendency all the time. Carney seems to have the right idea here but if he isn't able to keep the narrative from shifting to something that conservatives can use to make the idiots angry (which they seem pretty good at) then he could be in trouble.

  • These guys are wearing plate carriers

  • I'm in from MT

  • Shoot them in the face

  • Ah, a fellow bread bro

  • Are people in other states planning on participating in this? I'm definitely in

  • Surely "the market" can solve this problem for us. We just need to let it do it's thing for a little while longer..

  • It was a good speech. I hope he, and by extension Canada, follows through. There is a significant difference between correctly identifying a problem and successfully implementing a solution. Canada is not without it's own version of MAGA. So far they have done a much better job of keeping them at bay but only time will tell if that can continue. The speech was a good start though.

  • It's a solid idea in theory but unless I'm mistaken this means that someone somewhere is in possession of a list of people who have reason to suspect that ICE would want to arrest them. Given the lack of legal processes involved in all this it seems likely that this list will end up being a valuable resource for ICE when they break down that person's door and steal it.

  • There are other more direct ways to hurt billionaires

  • If you sign up to be the mouthpiece you should expect to be one of the first people to get punched in the mouth.

  • OK, buy a gun and shoot him in the face. To make it even easier on you I'll count an unsuccessful attempt as you following through on that promise.

    I know you won't because you've already admitted that your definition of possible action really only includes comfortable actions, which isnt functionally any different from saying "thoughts and prayers", but somehow you've still convinced yourself that you've done everything you can and you're out of options. The least you could do is admit that you're too afraid to do some of the things that you could do. At least that is intellectually honest.

    Saying there's nothing you could do is straight up delusion but hearing that makes you bristle so instead you're trying to garner sympathy for the situation you're in as if that absolves you of responsibility to act. Just skip the games and say you're still holding out hope that one of the easy options (read: accomplished by someone else) will work out so you don't have to do anything that puts you personally at risk. That's where I am and it's clearly where you are too but unlike you I don't have a mental block preventing me from admitting that to myself. That's also exactly how all the people from other countries in this thread are telling you that they view us and they are right to do so because it is an honest interpretation of what we are actually doing, unlike your self-pity filled protestations that we're trying our super hardest, which are clearly bullshit.

  • What good is discussing potential actions with someone who categorically denies the ability to act? You'd rather feel sorry for yourself and that's your to decision to make but don't pretend like your refusal to participate means you've caught me in some logical trap.

  • Nothing at all. You're a perfect little angel who is totally blameless. There's nothing more you could have done or could be doing now to impact the situation even one bit.

  • No. You are wrong.

    You are so convinced that they are wrong, and you are right.

    You don't see the obvious contradiction between these two statements? Quit making excuses and accept your part in all this.

  • We are all responsible for our own actions. Allowing yourself to be fooled by propaganda is your fault, not anyone else's.

    None of this changes until Americans collectively decide to change it and comments like yours only make people feel comfortable with the idea that they can't do anything to change it.

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  • If you shoot a federal (or any other kind of) law enforcement agent and they can prove it was you then you're going to prison for the rest of your life. Everyone knows, or should know, that. The idea is that these officers will be less likely to take violent action against protesters if they have reason to believe they will be personally shot while doing so. A court battle being likely to go your way doesn't help much if you take a bullet to the face.

    The 2A protects your right to own a firearm, and depending on where you live and how you do it, carry it around with you. Self defense is pretty much the only argument you can make in court to justify actually using a firearm to shoot another person, and cops are essentially immune from any responsibility for their actions which means self defense claims are not accepted if you shoot them. There have been cases where cops showed up at the wrong house in the middle of the night, knocked down the door, entered the home unannounced with guns drawn, and the homeowner was still found guilty of murder for shooting one of them. The state has a vested interest in not setting the precedent that it's OK to shoot cops under even very narrow circumstances which means these guys are totally fucked if they actually do anything with those guns besides stand around and hope they deter the cops from getting too violent.

    That's not to say what this guy is doing isn't worth doing, but anyone considering doing this should be aware of what they're up against. I would be very wary of being the only person in a given area doing this as well. The strategy doesn't seem like it would have the intended effect if all they have to do is shoot one person and claim they felt threatened because he had a gun.

  • It really is insane to me that in all the world there's only been one guy (Luigi, allegedly) bold enough to do something about this absurd level of inequality. Think about how many people get murdered for such petty reasons every day, and yet we all look at a few dozen people sitting on literal mountains of cash while thousands of people starve to death and all we do is shrug or wag a finger. Statistically you would expect at least a handful of people to have the right combination of fury and lack of self preservation instincts to take a shot at them and yet here we are. What a wild place to live this planet is.