I understand that they’ve got a job to do, immigration, but I just feel like he was specifically targeted because of what’s going on where he’s from, his home country,
Isn’t that true for most of the immigrants
It’s extremely weird to see people fixating - laser like - on the tiny fraction of people who get reported as “Trump supporting” while seemingly ignoring the tens of thousands who were Harris supporters or (far more commonly, since they’re often undocumented or unhoused) completely cut out of the domestic political system.
As though these massive nationwide ICE raids conducting an ethnic cleanse are somehow the Karma Police and not just ethnic cleanse squads that happen to side-swipe a few conservatives along the way.
The fixation isn’t in support of ICE but in satisfaction that at least some of those at fault suffer under their own hateful desires. They voted for the leopard to eat faces and are shocked when it eats their face.
at least some of those at fault suffer
None of the ICE agents or their bureaucratic bosses are suffering.
Ah yes, the people who voted for this aren’t some of those at fault, only the people with a title are responsible… what a shit take away.
It’s extremely weird to see people fixating - laser like - on the tiny fraction of people who get reported as “Trump supporting”
Yeah, especially in this community……………………….
My eyes almost rolled all the way out of my head reading this article. The dude is from IRAN, and this blindsided them.
To be clear, it sounds like this dude is a loving family man and member of the community, and he did not deserve this. And even if he was a scumbag, we don’t use secret police to deal with scumbags.
But sometimes it hurts to have the depth of some people’s oblivious ignorance revealed so starkly. Some other comments have already pointed out the stupid “golly I think there might be bad people on the left AND the right!” conclusion at the end of the article. But here’s another gem from in the middle:
“My husband himself, even being from Iran, supported Trump, his immigration policies, and understood he was trying to protect the American people and was praying he helped free the Iranian people,” Gardner told Newsweek.
These people look at an elderly hateful narcissist of a grifter and parasite, and hear his messages of hate and division and exclusion, and apparently the image formed in their dusty brains is Captain Fucking Planet!
To be clear, it sounds like this dude is a loving family man and member of the community,
That is how the other narcissistic morons always describes one of their own. During covid there were so many obituaries about these “loving family people” who had died from being unvaccinated, and when you checked their social media history it consisted of nothing but heinous hateful memes.
Yeah, no disagreement there.
I’m so extremely puzzled by it. I cannot fathom what it is that’s so alluring about Donald Trump. The guy is a total asswipe.
It’s the “I don’t give a fuck” attitude he has. His fan base thinks that leader material. They think compromise and humility are weak. They like that he doesn’t care for people. They believe he cares for them and all his hate spew is towards everyone else but them.
it is like a siren song.
I am convinced I will go to my grave with this being the most frustrating piece of knowledge missing from my life. It defies logic to the point that I’ve had to adjust my perspective on humanity to account for it.
Cippola explains it
These are Cipolla’s five fundamental laws of stupidity:
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Always and inevitably, everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
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The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
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A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
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Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places, and under any circumstances, to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
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A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
I have come to understand that this is the explanation but it still doesn’t make sense in a way that I can internalize. I don’t get the mechanics of stupidity because having what I would have called average intelligence seems like such an easy bar to clear. A+B=C comes so naturally to me that I literally can’t force my brain to do anything different and yet I know people personally who obviously don’t do that at all on their own and it amazes me. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to figure out what they’re actually doing with their thoughts. All I know for sure is that logic doesn’t exist until someone else starts the process and that is baffling.
The way a stupid persons brain works is a mystery. Understanding that is my struggle even though I know that it is the answer to the original question.
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Does your life suck? Well, it’s somebody’s fault. And Trump is going to make them pay.
The guy talks like he feels strongly about issues but remains absolutely vague, which allows people to subconsciously fill in the blanks, so they hear whatever they want to hear.
That thing that I’m afraid of, he is going to solve that once and for all, without fussing about saying things are complicated like the democrats would.
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell
He uses hypnosis techniques while projecting vague enough ideas to people who need to hear that it’s all going to be okay. I am one that falls for it, that’s how I researched it to figure it out. That’s why I tell people to speed up his videos to 1.5 for family that have gone maga, it breaks the spell.
By your powers combined…I AM…CAPTAIN…PLLLLLANNNNUUUTTTT uhhhhhggg mmmmHmmm
And she’s voting Republican again!
Leopards: “NomNom”
It amazes me that these articles keep appearing and the Democrats are unable to leverage this into votes. Writing these people as stupid is useless. We still have to win elections with a large population of stupid people.
You cannot leverage this into votes. You regularly read “Trump killed my business/sent my spouse to Neverland/whatever, but I will vote for him again!”. Those people can’t be helped.
If you think that’s all of them then this is just silly. Or worse, lazy. Do politics.
Not all of them, but a frightening amount.
Democrats who do politics (Zohran Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, AOC) don’t pander to the correct coalition of real estate tycoons and cryptocurrency brokers that Democrats who just want an cushy job and an easy paycheck (Andrew Cuomo, Henry Cuellar, Kristen Sinema, Bill/Hillary Clinton) need in their corner.
100% agree.
Democrats are unable to leverage this into votes
Not for lack of trying. Harris made repeated trips down to the boarder to play “Tough On Crime” dress-up for the conservatives. She even did the famous Do Not Come speech, aimed at Guatemalan migrants fleeing their own domestic (US sponsored) ethnic cleansing.
You’d think folks obsessed with “border security” would love Democrats, given how regularly they advance bills to harden and militarize the border. Unless of course… this isn’t about “security” at all. It is about white supremacy and the consolidation of power within a single ethno-nationalist party.
In that case, why on earth would white nationalists side with a party full of non-white people? Why do Democrats spend so much time and money and man-hours attempting to court their vote, while spending even more time and money and man-hours alienating the votes of people of color and left-liberal migrant families?
We still have to win elections with a large population of stupid people.
“Hey you fucking idiots, vote for me!”
~ Richie Torries, 2028
Harris failed not because of her policies, but because she never was willing to sincerely differentiate herself from a Democratic party who continued to put themselves and their donors ahead of the average citizen.
Trump blew up the Republican party and it was a breathe of fresh air for a Washington full of their own self interest.
Its faaaaaar less about policies. It about an actual vision and authenticity. For as shitty as it is, Trump has this and Harris didn’t. This is leverage.
Edit: I wholly agree with the white supremecy undercurrent. But this isn’t new.
the establishment in the Democratic party isn’t interested in winning.
They want to win. They just don’t want to have to change to do so.
BREAKING NEWS! This Just In!
“Republicans are shocked at any one at any time being detained indefinitely after intentionally empowering and assembling a large militant force who operates purely extrajudicially without due process. We’ve got Tom live on the scene to ask one of them about this development, Tom?”
“Tell the camera what you just told me a moment ago, please.”
“Well I don’t think that’s what due process means, they still go to see an immigration court, don’t they?”
“No.”
“Well, they should.”
“Maybe you should vote for somebody who makes that happen.”
“Like Donald Trump?”
“Wrong again.”
I am in constant awe of how these people are incapable of pointing the finger towards the issue here.
I am aware that maga is a cult, but we have reached the point where Trump and the Republicans are openly, brazenly committing acts that their own supporters disagree with. How much more obvious does the situation need to become before people start placing the blame where it belongs?
It won’t be obvious ever to these people, because their reality is only what they and their associates see in FOX News. That they don’t get concerned by what is happening is because they never hear or see what is happening.
Just as bad, a lot of people on both sides are pointing the finger at Democrats.
My only joy in these times of the orange shit stain, is these magats getting pounded.
It might be petty and small of me, but I don’t give a shit.
You vote for Trump once… I can kind of excuse it as stupid… You vote for him twice and you’re just an evil fucker and I have zero sympathy left.
Some of them voted for him 3 times even, wild! My father and brother are in this category. I do not speak to them. I’m gay and my daughter is trans and they voted for that asswipe three times!
I am arrow straight and do the same
Or still stupid they obviously just follow the propaganda like sheep.
Nah, at some point it’s malicious. It’s the “fuck your feelings” crowd, after all.
I think the only malicious people are the once that knew exactly what would happen and saw a benefit to them or how they can abuse it for themselves. The people believing their bad situation is caused by x group of people are just stupid. They cannot comprehend the complexity of their own problems, therefore the easy awnser of, other people bad, is what they gravitate towards. And sometimes they are so lazy to think that they just follow whatever the neighbors or other people around them say, to be part of the group…
I think in history there has never been a quicker demonstration of “if you support fascists they will eventually come for you too”. Dude has been in the office for couple months and is already rounding up his supporters lol
A couple of months? I reflexively thought No, it must be a couple years already.
Damn, those were long months.Yep and 3.5 years to go…if it ever ends.
We have a chance to flip the house and senate in 1.5 years.
Right! Hope it happens!
How liberals think fascists are defeated
Well I don’t have the power to do a special military operation so this is plan b
Everything is either Unarmed or Four Star General; nothing in between.
It’s pretty easy to get blindsided by things when you’ve got your head up your own arse.
Is that an atom?
Gardner is seven months pregnant, but remains hopeful that her husband will be with her when she gives birth.
“My heart is broken,” Gardner told the outlet. “Our baby shower is going to be next weekend, and he’s not going to be at home to go to that with me.”
He’s missing the baby shower?? You should tell ICE, maybe they’ll release him.
ice froze her shower.
Tell Trump even
they’ll probably deport the baby
Depends on skin color.
Ha, and might I add, Ha.
She was blind and now she can see. I’m sure she still isn’t seeing the whole picture.
The good old “he’s not hurting the right people”
Absolutely zero empathy …. 🫂
Some peopple just don’t want glasses.
“Stupid is as stupid does”. The failure of the US education system and rising social media bias are having a Darwinian effect
this is like burning women at the stake and laughing that some spectators got hit by a hot ember. saying that he deserves it.
they punishment that they deserve is nothing in comparison to what they get.
and the pain they are recieving is inconsequential compared to the one they are causing
Nobody here is glad these things are happening. They tried very hard to stop it and got a collective “fuck you” from the rest of the country. All of them would rather Trump be stripped of his power than have a MAGA deported, but seeing as that’s not going to happen…
yhea, I know,
it’s just that “leopards ate my face” is not even close to what is happening, more like leopard cub slightly scratched my face.
we voted for a racist ethnic cleansing, and now I lost some workers I pay below minimum wage :( or a maga that was also an immigrant but supported ethnic cleansing also got detained :(