• Mustakrakish@lemmy.world
    5·
    30 minutes ago

    Yugopnik made a good point on the term “Leftist” and how its so broad that it includes many different idealogies that are quite honestly conflicting, i.e. stalinists, anarchists, etc., so that it appears leftists are always fighting since they are all lumped into the same category.

    • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
      2·
      8 minutes ago

      For me, it makes much more sense to think about it all as pop culture. I’ll use America but this goes for any country.

      The right leaning party represents pop culture. A dominant culture. The popular culture is American Apple pie and blue jeans with letter jackets.

      The left represents everything outside the pop culture bubble. It’s a larger population as a whole, but they’re like little bubbles they all contain their own culture. Those cultures can conflict or merge and compliment each other. But they’re individually separate.

      The pop culture is always feeling threatened. It needs to maintain the status quo. Every outside sub culture is trying to fight their way into the dominant culture.

      So this is why the right leaning voters trend towards rejecting things like immigrants, minorities, LGQTB and often other sub groups that are not wildly accepted by the pop culture. This is also why the left leaning groups do not. They trend towards infighting about how to do things but overall they all focus efforts on taking status away from the pop culture.

      When I view politics as a clash between pop culture and sub cultures, it makes so much of it make so much more sense.

  • TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
    3·
    1 hour ago

    The bigger problem is that politics today isn’t BS association to what “left” is versus BS association to what “right” is, it’s becoming those that are willing to work within a system versus those that are just willing to exploit it. Trying to map out left and right is a concept so absurd no amount of coordinate systems is going to make people across language barriers and international barriers agree on how you label them.

    Reasonable people that disagree are going to have more disagreements than an echo chamber masking a defrauding scheme that is open to be bought by the highest bidders.

    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
      3·
      31 minutes ago

      It’s a dubious place to be in. Those that believe in the system, and working within it…and the dangers of working outside of it…are realizing that there is no in-the-system countermeasure to those willing to work outside-the-system.

      Those who believe in law and order can’t use law and order to wrangle in…the majority of the “law” and “order” that are working in extra-legal and extra-ordinary ways.

    • TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
      21·
      1 hour ago

      Fun fact, I once alluded to this on reddit’s worldnews and they associated me with Hitler because apparently trying to say there is more than one dimension is trying to whitewash Nazism.

      Troll factories can get defensive, don’t touch what they work with.

  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
    16·
    9 hours ago

    I have never met a leftist I didn’t like

    but I only consider somebody a leftist if they respect human rights.

    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
      1·
      6 minutes ago

      Unfortunately all the wanna-be Pol Pots out there also consider themselves to be leftists.

    • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.orgEnglish
      6·
      8 hours ago

      I’m always under the assumption that everyone can be an asshole. I had a very good friend qnd we’re both vegans. To me it’s just a dietary choice that i made, for her it was almost like a religion. Like when she met someone who was also a vegan or saw someone on tv that was a vegan, she always assumed that it’s a good person, or just rooted for that person, no questions asked.

    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
      67·
      9 hours ago

      So it’s accurate but they’re both wrong because

      1. He is the left.

      2. He shouldn’t even be trying to converse with literal USSR advocates and literal anarchists as if they were part of his base.

  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
    1·
    9 hours ago

    See Ken Loach’s Land & Freedom on how factionalism and in-fighting within the Republican forces in the Spanish Civil war allowed the fascist Junta to win.

    • RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
      81·
      14 hours ago

      I was recently banned for being “transphobic” for telling people what far right people believe about trans people, in the third person because I’m not far right nor have I ever been.

      I’ve been pro-trans rights (AKA human rights) since I knew what the word “transgender” meant, which is going on twenty years or so now?

      • Delphia@lemmy.world
        9·
        11 hours ago

        Lemmy has a REALLY bad problem with people who dont actually read comments and process them. They skim read the post, see a few keywords and then argue the point that they want to argue regardless of what the original comment was.

        • RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
          1·
          29 minutes ago

          I was actually back and forth a bit with an admin among other folks, likely the one who nuked the thread and banned me.

          Nobody was being rude, and the last thing I said was agreeing with them.

      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
        2·
        9 hours ago

        I’m banned from like 6 blahaj zone communities for one comment I made where me and two other users discussed the overlap of trans and gay.