I advocate for logical and consistent viewpoints on controversial topics. If you’re looking at my profile, I’ve probably made you mad by doing so.

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Cake day: June 12th, 2023

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  • This may seem weird, but I’m weird, so here goes. I rewrote the article with your suggestions as I felt the exact same thing you did about the lack of substantive arguments in it. And no, I didn’t use AI. Apologies in advance for Lemmy fucking up the formatting.

    I ordered a burger last Tuesday, and it was blue.

    “Why is my burger blue?” I asked, innocently.

    “Oh! We’re making all of our food blue, all the best restaurants are doing it now.” the waiter explained.

    But I didn’t want my burger to be blue. I like my burgers to be the same reliable dark brown colour cooked meats are supposed to be. I’d read in the news recently that there’s a lot of innovations being made in blue food colouring, and the taste is nearly undetectable. I knew the food colouring was there, and if you’d asked, I’d say there definitely was a hint of unpleasantness, but we’ve all had bad burgers before, and I just assumed the chef was having an off day.

    Sometimes humans make mistakes like that.

    A week later, I poured myself a glass of milk from a carton I had just opened. The milk was blue.

    I called up the milk company.

    “Oh! Of course, we make blue milk now. It doesn’t affect the price in any way, but now the milk is blue.”

    I tried it and it tasted wrong. I poured it down the sink.

    My friend called me crazy. He said that I just have to get used to food being blue now. Everyone likes blue food better, or, at least, it’s not really any worse than the non-blue food if you don’t think about it too much. The blue is free, so why would I complain?

    “I just think it tastes weird.” I explained, fruitlessly.

    “I can’t tell the difference, and most people say it’s just fine for food to be blue.”

    But I didn’t want my food to be blue. Was that so hard to understand? Even if they made the food colouring completely tasteless, I still didn’t want it to be blue.

    In investor calls, the massive company making the blue food colouring had disclosed that in order to design it, they had to steal every recipe book both private and published. It’s okay though, they say copyright doesn’t apply to them; they have the money to make sure it doesn’t.

    If added to food (and especially when added to specialty food), the blue food colouring could spontaneously make a food taste almost like someone’s personal family recipe without their permission. Well, the family recipe mixed with blue, anyway.

    It’s been a year now.

    A year of food gradually turning more blue. The price of my (blue) milk went up. They blamed it on inflation and innovations they’ve made in milk jug technology. The blue milk now comes in a very fancy new (and very blue) package.

    The company that made blue food colouring had made it almost completely flavorless, and once all the food distributors got used to including it, the price of it skyrocketed. Rival blue food colouring companies had come up, and some existing food additive businesses had shifted their focus almost entirely to producing blue food colouring. It is a shame, honestly. I quite enjoyed other flavors, but nobody bothers to make them anymore.

    Once blue food waste occurs and things are washed down the drain or composed, it gets into the water supply and starts feeding back on itself, making food taste worse and worse.

    The companies manufacturing it also let slip that production of blue food colouring takes so much energy that they were bringing coal power plants back online and polluting hundreds of times more than previously. But at least it was easier to make something taste blue! Now things that previously tasted abysmal just tasted bad to mediocre instead! I complain to my friend about this, he nods in agreement and serves me a plate of blue pasta while handing me a bottle of Anti-Blue made as a byproduct of blue food colouring. If you add it to your food, it’s supposed to cancel out the blue. It sometimes works and the blue is less obvious, but the food still always looks and tastes wrong.

    Two years in, and I broke.

    “Why the heck is my salad blue?” I had been looking forward to this salad. In last year, I had become a picky eater. I was sick of eating blue burgers and making blue chicken sandwiches. At least they couldn’t make the leaves blue.

    “Please don’t speak to me like that, sir. I just serve the food.” They had a point.

    “I’m sorry. But do you serve anything that isn’t blue?” I asked, meekly. I was embarrassed at myself. I try to be polite to staff. They’re paid less than minimum wage most of the time. They didn’t deserve to be the focus of my ire.

    They pointed me to the disclaimer in the corner of the menu.

    “We are a blue-first company!” It helpfully explained.

    “All our food contains some amount of blue food colouring, but you can ask the chef in the back to remove it if you’d like”.

    I asked. The chef looked annoyed.

    It’s now the third year of Blue Food.

    I stopped eating out. I’ve started making my own food at home. It’s a lot more effort, and it’s not always as tasty as something made by a professional chef, but at least it’s not blue. They say there’s no way to tell now. You could just close your eyes and you’d not even know! But I know. I can tell. It doesn’t look or taste right. I don’t know how anyone can’t tell.

    There have been studies reporting that foods containing the blue food colouring completely lack any expected nutritional content, and when a blue food does contain nutrition it’s just a random accident of the process. We’ve also have other studies stating that people eating exclusively blue foods are not only malnourished, but that their body can no longer process normal foods as efficiently as before.

    I rant about it to friends. They nod politely.

    One day a friend offered to make me some “normal” food. It seemed fine, tasted okay. Only slightly off. I chalked that up to technique.

    Until they revealed that they’d secretly put blue food colouring in it. I’m such a fool, see! Where’s the problem? Sure, there’s ethical, mental, and environmental concerns with blue food colouring, but one bite of a secretly blue apple isn’t burning down the forests, so why even bring it up?

    They’re not a friend anymore.

    So now we’re in our third year of blue food colouring. It’s in the water now. I can’t avoid it. I can’t even shower now, as blue food colouring comes out of the taps. I make my own food but “advancements” in knives mean that even my homemade food is a little bit blue. Why do knives need to make things blue? So companies can say that their investment in blue wasn’t wasted and every time you cut something with a knife, it counts as an interaction with blue.

    Therefore you want blue (they tell us). We all do (they insist). Why else would we use it?

    And me? It’s become my full-time job to avoid blue wherever I can and I’ve resigned to the fact I cannot escape it.

    And I still don’t like the taste.


  • Ace T'Ken@lemmy.catomemes@lemmy.worldadhd
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    26 days ago

    That’s fair, but comics like the above (which are endemic to this sub) aren’t about the extremes and are about standard human behaviours.

    It’d be like someone seeing me double check the door lock at my house and saying “You must have OCD.”

    I also find it mildly concerning that someone may see these memes / comics and self-diagnose themselves with a mental illness that they do not have since self-diagnosis (and wanting to belong to a group) is a massive issue in the internet age.













  • The part that doesn’t make sense is how a guess on a QC in a binary is any better than a scientist just guessing an outcome from a binary. Yeah, it can do it a lot, but if you can’t test the outcome to verify if it’s correct or not, how is it better than any other way of guessing outcomes?

    Statistically, it absolutely isn’t. Even if it continually narrows things down via guesses, it’s still no more valuable than any other guesses. Because in all the whitepapers I’ve seen, it’s not calculating anything because it can’t. It’s simply assuming that one option is correct.

    In the real world, it’s not a calculation and it doesn’t assist in… anything really. It’s no better than a random number generator assigning those numbers to a result. I don’t get the utility other than potentially breaking numerical cryptography.


  • So that’s the part that gets me stuck. There is no clear answer and it has no way to check the result as QC aren’t capable of doing so (otherwise they wouldn’t be using QC since they can only be based on binary inputs and binary guesses of true / false outcomes on a massive scale). How can it decide that it is “correct” and that the task is completed?

    Computations based on guesses of true / false can only be so accurate with no way to check the result in the moment.


  • I appreciate the reply!

    I made the attempt, but couldn’t parse that first link. I gathered that it was about error correction due to the absolutely massive number of them that crop up in QC, but I admit that I can’t get much further with it as the industry language is thick on that paper. Error reduction is good, but it still isn’t on any viable data, and it’s still a massive amount of errors even post-correction. It’s more of a small refinement to an existing questionable system, which is okay, but doesn’t really do much unless I’m misunderstanding.

    The Willow (and others) examples I’m skeptical on. We already have different types of chips for different kinds of operations, such as CPUs, GPUs, NPUs, etc. This is just one more kind of chip that will be found in computers of the future. Of course, these can sometimes be combined into a single chip too, but you get the idea.

    The factorization of integers is one operation that is simple on a quantum computer. Since that is an essential part of public / private key cryptography, those encryption schemes have been recently upgraded with algorithms that a quantum computer cannot so easily unravel.

    With quantum computing, a system of qubits can be set up in such a way that it’s like a machine that physically simulates the problem. It runs this experiment over and over again and measures the outcome, until one answer is the clear winner. For the right type of problem, and with enough qubits, this is unbelievably fast.

    Problem is, this only works for systems that have a known answer (like cryptography) with a verifiable result, otherwise the system never knows when the equation is “complete”. It’s also of note that none of these organizations are publishing their benchmarking algorithms so when they talk about speed, they aren’t exactly being forthright. I can write code that runs faster on an Apple 2e than a modern x64 processor, doesn’t mean the Apple 2e is faster. Then factor in how fast quantum systems degrade and it’s… not really useful in power expenditure or financially to do much beyond a large corporation or government breaking encryption.


  • Well, I love being wrong! Are you able to show a documented quantum experiment that was carried out on a quantum computer (and not an emulator using a traditional architecture)?

    How about a use case that isn’t simply for breaking encryption, benchmarking, or something deeply theoretical that they have no way to know how to actually program for or use in the real world?

    I’m not requesting these proofs to be snarky, but simply because I’ve never seen anything else beyond what I listed.

    When I see all the large corporations mentioning the processing power of these things, they’re simply mentioning how many times they can get an emulated tied bit to flip, and then claiming grandiose things for investors. That’s pretty much it. To me, that’s fraudulent (or borderline) corporate BS.


  • Yeah, most quantum science at the moment is largely fraudulent. It’s not just Microsoft. It’s being developed because it’s being taught in business schools as the next big thing, not because anybody has any way to use it.

    Any of the “quantum computers” you see in the news are nothing more than press releases about corporate emulators functioning how they think it might work if it did work, but it’s far too slow to be used for anything.