Both are wrong. The correct way to write the date is YYYY-MM-DD. This is the only way to sort dates linearly in a list. ISO 8601.
It’s frustrating that people are so bad at dates that ISO8601 lives rent-free in my head because I constantly have to tell people ;)
In Arabic we use DD/MM/YYYY but it actually gets written as YYYY/MM/DD since Arabic is written and read from right to left. When the year is dropped the confusing part is not what format is used here but rather does this website/software support RTL or is it just regular unformatted ASCII.
Edit: it’s still not ISO 8601 and it doesn’t solve the sorting issue
Should work if you have an RTL invert character before, right? (Not that you could name files with the slashes.)
RTL invert characters are just for rendering purposes it doesn’t help with sorting also in older systems sometimes it was not supported.
But if you type it as “[RTL invert]yyyy/mm/dd” it is automatically sorted correctly in ltr parsing systems but still displayed correctly (assuming it is supported which it seems to be on most devices nowadays).
You want it displayed as “yyyy/mm/dd” so it’s actually “[RTL]dd/mm/yyyy”
Ah, I read the original comment backwards.
Hungarian is close enough
YYYY.MM.DD
I can be OK with that
But not with having elected the Trump of EU
Bro, trump is learning from Orbán if anything Trump is the US Orbán, fuck both of them too
♥️ this is what I decide to use at work. Dots are superior than dashes in my opinion because they prevent line breaks
I like dashes because they work better than dots or slashes for file names.
How so? At least dots haven’t prevented me in the past (windows, Mac, android, various cloud storage).
Most OSes will let you do it but
2025.01.01.pngcould have issues compared to2025-01-01.png. Plus I think it’s a little clearer what the file type actually is.Its just a little pedantic thing I’ve picked up after years of being a sysadmin. In my mind slashes (
/) are reserved for directory delimitation and the period (.) is to separate the file name from the file type. I also have a little bit longer of a list of “reserved” characters for other reasons (,#, and{`}`)
I’m so glad you think we are all computers
Our lives involve computers to a huge degree.
And, when the context of the year is understood, you can just drop it. At least Japanese does this (and I’m pretty sure Chinese does as well).
You shouldn’t do that, because if you’re writing it down it means you want to either refer to it later or have someone else refer to it later. The year changes and you’re searching for that receipt or email… why set yourself up for failure?
So you’ve never in your entire life written down a date dropping the year? No matter the context of the note? Even a shopping list? Even a party next weekend? That’s a dedication to…archival science? that I’ve never seen before
I try to do this, though I’ve only started relatively recently. I like my data.
BRB – I have to tell the country of Japan they’re doing dates wrong /s.
For the things I’m thinking about, the year generally doesn’t matter. I’m thinking advertisements or even things that say like ‘Spring 2025 menu 2025年の春メヌー’ or something which preserves context. A lot are also written on shop whiteboards and such which are changed fairly regularly. In my own notes, in anything I may care about that far into the future, I do write the full date in ISO-8601
Why is the format not:
2025/4/12
Biggest time frame to smallest time frame (year, month, then day)?
As a computer scientist, I’ve been doing this everywhere for over 10 years already. Be the change you want to see in the world.
I worked for a company that did their dates multiple ways and it was fucking impossible to know what date was what. It was super frustrating. I’d prefer this, but if you don’t, at least keep it consistent once you start.
If a date starts with the year, everyone will know the thing after it is the month. I’ve never ever seen YYYY/DD/MM. That, to me, seems like it wouldn’t add additional confusion at least.
They flipped month and day. If it was the year, you’re right.
Issues with unix paths. I prefer 2025-04-12.
2009, got it
This is the way.
ISO8601 FTW!
ISO Tanf rise up.
Also 2025/04/12
2025/4/12
Don’t forget leading zeroes, we’re not half assing this!
02025/04/012
In my computer engineering course this is literally how we were told to write the date on our lab reports.
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my guess is order of relevance.
For written format that is ideal but when talking about a date, say in two weeks time, saying the year is redundant.
Because humans are not computers. That scheme makes sense when you are filling out things that are not nearby in time. For example, filling in your birth date on tax forms.
Otherwise, humans don’t generally need the context of the year. The same is true of the month only if the context is clear (I’ll see you on the 20th implies the very next 20th). A year is much longer and most things are not planned out that far in advance. If they are, they often dont have precise dates in which case a month or even a quarter is more appropriate.
Time is also one of those things where humans are so used to contextual processing that representing the full date adds overhead. 2025/4/20, 4/20/2025, 20/4/2025 all take more processing than “the 20th” or “next Sunday”.
This is how I do it- my folders and files are super easy to find
Canada uses this
yyyy/mm/dd
What do you think of DD/HH/YYYY/Min/MM/Sec?
Could be improved by swapping hours and minutes. They are more important after all.
Also that way the time isn’t in order anymore.
What Americans are calling people idiots for saying (day) of (month)? We say it both ways all the time. 4th of July, July 4th… it’s not a complicated thing.
It’s like saying USAians don’t have a sense of humour. Some USAians are MAGAt knob heads, some are perfectly reasonable people. More or less like anywhere else.
That is a weird one: every other date is “normal” order but for some reason this is an exception. Also weird that we call it with backward date more often than its actual holiday name
- July 4 is a normal date
- Independency Day is the name of the holiday
- so why do we usually refer to it as “Fourth of July”
We don’t say July 4 because that’s a normal date, we don’t say Independence Day because there are so many of those on different days for different countries.
With the way things are going over there, the whole thing falls apart soon enough and this issue can be fixed in the rebuild.
None of this dumb shits going to matter when the meteor sephiroth summoned blows the earth up
Of course it will still matter. You’ll need a calendar just to time out the animation for that spell it’s so fucking long.
Up until the comment thread I’d never heard an American say that at all.
And there’s no proof the shithead in the comments is American. Definitely a troll though.
In any case this is easy to explain since the 4th of July was a holiday made by British citizens.
I’m an American and do day/month/year.
I thought this was how it was done everywhere?
So the holiday that’s coming up in a week… Is it 4/20, or 20/4?
4/20 blaze it.
You’re Goddamn right.
The only day when america produces enough second hand smoke to compete with Paris.
Where in the US? I’ve never seen anything online where a US entity uses DD/MM/YYYY, or do you mean the month is spelled out?
Don’t you mean Eramicans?
Why can’t we just call it Independence Day, that’s what it’s actually called
Sorry, that’s copyrighted.
Canada’s just like you have to guess
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We write it how you’d say it. Outside of holidays or days of remembrance we write it how you say it.
For example today is 4/13/25. April 13th 2025. If you say the 13th of April you’re fuckin weird.
And which do you ask more often what month is it or what day is it?
I don’t understand how that’s relevant?
That’s how YOU say it. Personally, I would say the 10th of March, the 2nd of June. But then, I’m not American.
People mentioning ISOs are such forks and it’s adorable
Don’t mock them.
One day you will meet one in person and he’ll beat you up if he’s 7 foot, 3/5 thumbs and 2 elbows tall.Foot is an SI derived unit, not familiar with the thumbs. And elbows don’t get used as measurement, elbows go up.
