And then there’s antichiral bacteria, where the entire scientific community will shoot you if you even breath wrong adjacent to the idea
The difference between AI and the other 3: AI has ths potential to save all the rich people trillions through the firing of the proletariat whereas the 3 numbered items were merely a small group of people trying to make money for themselves.
Wut. Rich people will shoot themselves in the foot by firing the proletariat. AI is trash.
The only thing that would save them is a bail out when everything crashes.
Humanity hasn’t paused research in those areas. The West has, China on the other hand does its own thing, the Chinese love messing around with DNA they keep trying to make dinosaurs out of chickens.
The west also has directed energy weapons (IR Lasers and whatever the f**k they used in Venezuela that made the guards bleed from every orifice) formally used for burning missiles in flight, that can easily punch a hole through a human
We do recombinant DNA experiments all the time. We just don’t do it on humans, and even it depends on the specifics when done on test animals.
Pause? Don’t you mean undo?
Wouldn’t doug judy’s “name one bad nurse” scene have been a way better fir for this meme?
Fuck reddit
None are paused tho. They might say they are
And the beauty of this stance is that it’s literally impossible to disprove, so you never have to be wrong.
Of course the problem is that you as the claimant have burden of proof.
Of course the problem is that you as the claimant have burden of proof.
People who say this kind of thing about claims regarding government or industry-level activities have no clue about security classifications.
How are you supposed to provide proof for something that is being deliberately withheld from the public?
I’ve got a blinding laser in my CD burner.
Allegedly, a Dr in China was already creating designer babies, and recombinant DNA products exist (and therefore, the research to create those products is being done.) Hell, I’ve done my own recombinant DNA experiments in my bio labs during college.
I’m not a particular fan of AI but I’m not naive enough to believe that research would stop just because everyone claimed it had.
If AI can only be done in such secrecy that it’s impossible to disprove then I’d call that a win.
Yeah literally just let us have some peace and quiet before we’re suddenly turned into paper clips
I’ll do you one better by just using logic. There is no more work needed for blinding lasers, you can pick up a battery powered IR setup for a few hundred dollars and strap it to a rifle, done. Recomb DNA actually is still being studied, allow me to gesture very broadly to ALL the shit we do with yeast and I dated a girl working with M. Maydis for treating breast cancer.
Translation from bafflegab to English: “I have no evidence and thus cannot cite it.”
They just used normal words tho? This comment seems to be telling on yourself more than anything.
I think you’re confused, because not only am I agreeing with you, but none of the things I said should be confusing to anyone with a > 10th grade education.
ZDL is confused. Human cloning? Easy, done. Not used, but well understood. You explained the lasers. Recombinant DNA? That is the basis of all current biotech outside of mRNA and CRISPR (which is also recombinant DNA, just very focused).
I dunno what you’re trying to argue. They accused me of using needlessly confusing language, that was what I was referring to.
I think you’re confused, SomethingSnappy is agreeing with you.
The files basically confessed
Bingo!
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They “paused” that because it was way to expensive to run and it’s popularity cost them too much money and scared investors.
I’d be pretty certain that if any of these has “paused” its just because research reached its limits and is waiting for the next big development that enables it to continue.
Also “recombinant DNA experiments”??? What in the world is meant by that?
I think this is what they mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recombinant_DNA#Controversy
I read the article in french and it seems they use it with insuline and EPO ? I also think this argument is slippery, these technologies are more in a “pause mode” no ?
TIL, thanks! I agree that this is a fitting example then.
I read through it and it seems that mostly they were unsure about the security so they placed a moratorium on it until they could figure out if it was, and it was deemed not dangerous.
CFCs.
only after years of kicking and screaming, and companies that made CFCs switched to more expensive HFCs and later HFOs so it’s not like they went out of the business. (alternative is use of hydrocarbons which is much cheaper but flammability was used as a reason to restrict their use) CFCs are also still used as chemical intermediates and as late as during covid there was an operational illegal R12 factory somewhere in northern china
That one was about commercialization, not research (which is the issue around dangerous AI)
The grifters want to become “too big to fail”, so that a “pause” would cause finance market drama. So, first, block the sale of the shares – that’s needed to avoid the grifters offloading to bigger fools.
A lot of people think that these companies want to become too big to fail but I suspect something else is going on as well.
Step 1. Make/pioneer new tech or buy it.
Step 2. Get investors onboard with it so that you can get a lot of seed money.
Step 3. Invest in the infrastructure to support widespread use of the technology.
Step 4. Develope the technology even though it has known flaws.
Step 5. Let those known flaws stir the pot and cause uncertainty in the market.
Step 6. If the technology fails and the bubble pops, get government bailout.
Step 7. Use money from bailout to buy up the infrastructure and components at a ridiculously rock bottom rate using these companies own money.
Step 8. Use a combination of bailout money and insurance to make the investors whole (or as whole as their contract stipulates).
Now at step 9 you are left with a bunch of commodities that tech companies need (data centers, supply lines for components, better power infrastructure, a knowlegable tech work force etc). And you don’t have to pay astronomical prices because the bottom fell out of the market.
Two major flaws is none of those examples had the potential to be highly profitable. And all three of those had major ethical and morality concerns that the general public wouldn’t approve.
AI is being packaged and sold as a toy, so while people do object to it, it’s not the same scale of playing god or literal war crimes.
Two major flaws is none of those examples had the potential to be highly profitable.
Neither does so-called “AI”. OpenAI, Anthropic and the rest are burning money like it’s nobody’s business.
On the corporate side of things, it’s being sold as a money maker. Costs a fraction of what an experienced employee does and marketed as less prone to mistakes or bungles. Obviously not true but since when has a CEO ever turned down a promise too good to be true?
That grift can’t work indefinetly, though. At some point the piper will have to be payed.
Not too much to research with the blinding lasers needed. Keep in mind I am not any where near an expert but this seems like a sufficient implementation. I am 100% certain someone smarter and or more experienced than me could potentially simplify this further.
A sufficiently high resolution video camera with fast integrated auto focus on a mechanized cradle, a computer with two RTX 4090’s, and of course a class IV (say 100w) laser with dual rotating mirrors should be enough to permanently blind the bulk of a crowd.
I bet there is a free model on hugging face for identifying the pupils for eye tracking and there are facing tracking models to drastically cut down the area for acquiring targets. Really the hardest part could be the camera but if you have enough money, Hollywood has stuff that would work. Other problem would be running the models fast enough to be effective.
Casing could just be a metal box that rotates and has a quartz glass window coated with hydrophobic chemicals.
I do not see AI going away I see it being the tool they originally pitched before firing everyone as an assistant for coding and the such and that only when running locally. I think it will do a decent job in finding and patching 0 day issues in Linux kernels and the such but Hollywood and the tech sector after making a really tough few years for all their former employees will be having a very tough time themselves, and if the US government has any balls they will have to worry about being broken up as monopolies and prosecuted for their criminal behavior, but that seems to be wishful thinking even if a more responsible party get all the levers of power.
