that’s it. nothing more to really add to it. it’s quite simple.

    • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldOP
      3·
      2 天前

      be fair. treat everyone equally. be kind, try not to get your feelings hurt even when people intentionally try to hurt yours. have easy to understand, clear, easily accessible rules. apply them even-handedly, even to yourself. it’s best if there isn’t some huge list of rules but like, people will push boundaries. your job is to enforce the will of the community, not your will, so poll the community to get their opinions.

      this isn’t the mods’ petty fiefdom, it’s all of our petty fiefdom. it’s the posters and commenters that make the community what it is. a lot of mods forget that.

  • carrylex@lemmy.world
    931·
    4 天前

    The way to hell is paved with good intensions…

    The current proposal is not specific enough: With your proposal every post effectively requires an artist signature. There will always be some valid reason why there is none. Also who should check/enforce this? The single non-existing mod? xD

    Keep it simpler and make a rule that says: Content created by somebody else requires attribution.

    Attribution could be an artist signature in the comic, the name of the artist in the description or a link to the original source in a comment.

    • agent_nycto@lemmy.world
      32·
      4 天前

      If I were to indulge in pedantry, the rule would be against cropping signatures, not requiring they exist. If it’s unsigned then there’s nothing to crop. I like your phrasing much better though, require attribution if you have it.

    • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldOP
      7·
      4 天前

      My good dude, hell has the good food, the good music, the good wine, even the good Nixon(below) (the evil one went to heaven, have you seen the kind of people that go there?).

  • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialEnglish
    1355·
    4 天前

    A good number of strips will be pre-cropped, or the equivalent. So what you’d really want when the signature’s missing is to have the poster do reverse-image as necessary so as to identify the creator, making sure to include that information.

    There’s also the fact that doubtless there will be posters ignoring such a rule / guideline, ideally necessitating mod intervention. Meanwhile, the one and only mod looks like they haven’t been active in a month.

    ¯\(ツ)/¯

      • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
        432·
        4 天前

        Are there ways this could be implemented though that would not punish people who accidentally posted the wrong one though. You have a good idea, but we also have very few contributors on Lemmy and we don’t want to discourage that either.

        • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldOP
          81·
          4 天前

          i mean we don’t have to make it a bannable offense, we just have to say “hey, go find the original if you can”. it’s a pretty relaxed community right?

        • AnyOldName3@lemmy.world
          36·
          4 天前

          Unlike Reddit, it’s possible to edit the link a post links to after the fact, so it’s possible to swap in an uncropped link later instead of just removing the post.

          • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
            11·
            4 天前

            I’d be in favor of that. Not an instant ban rule but more of a “No link provided, please use TinEye or something to find the original and update your post”

          • ViperActual@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            8·
            4 天前

            This is the key. If someone shares something that may have the attribution missing or is too jpg, the post link can be edited to the better version.

            If users are posting too many comics that are missing attribution without following through to update post links to versions with them, then they’ll get the book thrown at them and won’t be allowed to post anymore.

      • RustyShackleford@piefed.socialEnglish
        28·
        4 天前

        Here’s an idea: add easily accessible links so that even those less technologically inclined can easily reverse image search. Since many younger users are moving to Lemmy, they might not fully understand all the rules you’re trying to enforce.

        • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldOP
          27·
          4 天前

          This is A. Good. Point.

          If i actually lose my mind and agree to mod this sub in a few months i’m saving this so i can come back to it, I have to look up how to reverse image search every damn time. And one of my first jobs was working IT building computers and programming bullshit dammit I’m not completely tech naive, just stuck in windows 7 because fuck you microsoft.

          anyways, thank you Rusty, I am making you Honorary Something. Whatever it is, whenever we think of it, you are it. That was a great idea.

          • [object Object]@lemmy.world
            4·
            4 天前

            There’s a great addon for Firefox, ‘Search by Image’, which can open reverse search engines straight from the context menu. Not very useful for those who aren’t chronically online, of course.

            Also, of all the search engines, Yandex is great at finding larger image sizes which are typically the originals (or upscales or poor crops). Afaik Tineye stopped updating years ago.

      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
        13·
        4 天前

        Also, if you like the strip and have the time, help the person out and put up a signature or post the original with a signature, while reminding them that they should have posted a signature as well. These communities are a team effort.

      • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialEnglish
        6·
        4 天前

        True. Assuming they pay any attention to that one out of an unusually long list of sidebar rules. That doesn’t change the mod situation, either, and you’d need a mod to actually add that rule.

    • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      23·
      4 天前

      Images with the creator’s name cropped shouldn’t be shared anyway, plus they’re usually deep-fried and look like a blurry mess. People should be looking for originals to replace the crappy quality ones.

      • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialEnglish
        3·
        4 天前

        Well, woulda-coulda-shoulda. It’s nice that people are willing to make suggestions and discuss the issue, but in cases like this, it actually needs someone to join the mod team here and then apply their vigilance on an ongoing basis towards stuff that broke the rules.

        • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          5·
          4 天前

          There are some good suggestions in the comments, like providing a link on how to reverse image search to the sidebar to make it easier to find originals. It would be best if it were something that was encouraged rather than strictly enforced.

          • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialEnglish
            3·
            4 天前

            For Firefox, there’s a super-handy extension that lets you right-click on an image and then gives you a choice of eight different services (or all of them) to reverse-image search. I use it all the time.

            Regardless, even going in the low-maintenance ‘suggestion, not a hard guideline’ route would require an active mod here to at the very least add the suggestion to the sidebar. Currently, there isn’t one, seemingly. This gets in to sort of a Meta issue about communities that get abandoned to some extent. It’s a real problem across the Fediverse, and I don’t believe enough collective focus is happening to deal with the issue.

            If you look at this thread, it’s full of people saying, “yeah, let’s do this!” and “cool, sounds good!” but nobody in a position to act is effectively listening. This is what it looks like when there’s a bunch of chatter and nothing actually happens, sort of like a loud protest that doesn’t actually change anything.

            • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              3·
              4 天前

              Yeah, if there’s no active mod it’s a non-starter. But people don’t have any reason to know that’s the case. Considering how relatively big this community is (for Lemmy) it’s impressive it functions without a human mod as well as it does.

              • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialEnglish
                2·
                4 天前

                But people don’t have any reason to know that’s the case.

                They can do the same thing I did, which was to click on the one mod here and see their activity history?

                it’s impressive it functions without a human mod as well as it does.

                I think that’s what naturally tends to happen when a community hits a critical mass of subscribers, combined with a highly popular subject. Also, this doesn’t strike me as a /c with much potential for controversy. *shrug*

    • Deestan@lemmy.world
      131·
      4 天前

      So what you’d really want when the signature’s missing is to have the poster do reverse-image […]

      Nah, they can just not perpetuate stolen art. Keep it easy.

    • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      4 天前

      This is where I land as well. I fully support giving creators their credit, but this seems like a lot of red tape for very little payoff.

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
    42·
    4 天前

    If there’s no conveniently available version with the artist credit in the image, a link to the artist’s page in the post body I think would suffice.

  • Sc00ter@lemmy.zip
    27·
    4 天前

    You also need some way to validate that its not interface specific. The amount of threads that ive been in that have had people complaining that the artist name was cropped, but in my app (voyager) ive been able to see the whole image, is too damn high.

  • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldOP
    342·
    4 天前

    honestly this is mostly because i’m about to bike out and help my comic book buddy with his taxes. but c’mon people, be respectful to the artists.

  • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.netEnglish
    14·
    4 天前

    Don’t know if I get a vote here, but I am strongly in favour — especially as you’ve said that it’s not necessarily going to be a bannable offence. I think that rules can serve as a valuable statement of intention — like virtue signalling, except without the negative connotations of that term

  • ripcord@lemmy.world
    14·
    4 天前

    I find that it’s pretty rare anyone here would do it intentionally. Usually that comes from people just resharing something they found on Instagram or somewhere.

    I agree people should try to find the original author and post the original in that case. But I think that should be called out instead.

    Edit: This comment is redundant, but oh well

  • RustyNova@lemmy.world
    12·
    4 天前

    I was about to make a comic about this tonight lol

    (I know it goes against the one comic per week limit but it seems like nobody is respecting it, yet respecting not spamming)