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Cake day: July 3rd, 2023

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  • I got my good bud to finally swap to Linux months ago. We have to occasionally boot windows for some games. He laments it every time, even despite having plenty of issues on Linux. Windows just feels worse in every way. He said “At least the problems on linux are fun and I can fix most of them.” - and he’s no linux expert.

    Maybe it’s finally almost the year of the linux desktop :')






  • I personally feel that convenience and personal taste is less important than the suffering of billions of animals. Your personal taste has a small impact on the total suffering, of course, but the sum of meat eaters taken together creates the demand that necessitates factory farming.

    If you voluntarily consume meat given the means of accessing the alternatives, then I say the choice is not ethical. How you or anyone else personally weighs that choice against other concerns is up to you. I’m posting this from a phone more than likely made by children working untenable hours. When I discard it, it’ll likely pollute a poor country. I know we have to pick our battles, so again, no judgement. I do like to discuss these things though! :)


  • We’re all doing the best we can

    I would hope most people are, but the reality is that we consume staggeringly more meat than ever before, by an order of magnitude. It is possible and even less expensive to consume a vegetarian diet, given you are blessed to live outside a food desert. I hold no judgement for folks existing in a terrible system and worrying about things other than animal welfare. This is a result of systems beyond the average person’s control, and more than likely, knowledge.

    To say that we’re doing the best we can is untrue in a vacuum. Perhaps education on the topic of animal agriculture would enable people to make choices that are kinder to animals, earth, and themselves.


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    I think i’d be more apt to consider your opinion if you were less aggressive and had posited a single argument. Dismissing something with a hand wave isn’t exactly a convincing argument. I’m open to hearing how you believe modern factory farming and meat consumption is ethical in your framework

    edit: I even posted the ways I would find eating meat ethical – I don’t really understand the anger and hostility



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    Given that any meat a normal person consumes is produced unethically in deplorable conditions, I don’t think it can be the ethical choice. If you raise the animals yourself and kill them quickly and humanely, sure. Or even go hunting and eat the meat. Fish and eat the fish. Otherwise, I don’t see how anyone could contend it’s ethical.

    My dad is a conservative red blooded american, and he rarely consumes meat because he has worked in and around a number of factory farms of varying sizes. From chickens, pigs, to cattle. It’s all produced in truly abhorrent ways.

    Your attitude betrays some level of cognitive dissonance imo, but what do I know, I’m just a lemming.