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      Brain worm tried to get this one, but died of starvation before it could finish the job.

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        not so fun fact, rfk jr drove one of his family members to alcoholism and heroin, by bullying him.

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        there is another kennedy in the gop, i dont think they are related to brainworms one though.

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        They encouraged class consciousness? How so?

        I thought they got wiped cause they wanted to stop using the central banks, but never really looked into them

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          He started pushing for worker friendly regulations and enabling general strikes before he was assassinated.

          Executive Order 10988 is a United States presidential executive order issued by President John F. Kennedy on January 17, 1962 that granted federal employees the right to collective bargaining. This executive order was a breakthrough for public sector workers, who were not protected under the 1935 Wagner Act. Passage of the executive order forestalled the legislative Rhodes-Johnson Union Recognition bill, which would have given more power to federal employee unions, possibly creating a union shop arrangement. Executive Order 10988 was effectively replaced by President Richard Nixon’s Executive Order 11491 in 1969.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_10988

          MLK was also pushing for a general strike before he was assassinated.

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          JFK flipped on the mob (who claims they killed him, but they are known for saying stuff) he wanted to shut down the CIA and possibly the FBI, He was clearing out the nut parade in the joint cheifs who were seriously suggesting to a WWII war hero that maybe indiscriminately bombing the US as a pretext to war was a great idea! He was also making in roads with Russia behind the scenes, and he had signed the withdraw papers to end The Vietnam War by the time he was assassinate. I don’t know who killed him, but I can tell you it was a busy week for the large amount of people that would greatly benifit from his sudden demise.

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    Speaking as someone with ADHD: This would have been the most darkly humorous time to use the phrase “Concentration Camp”

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    Wow a health nut AND a fascist!!! Who could have seen THESE two things fitting together so nicely… is it everyone?

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    Not as big a deal, but he also wants to get rid of your WiFi and your cell phone:

    Departing momentarily from fake vaccine claims, the gang also had a long discussion about the purported dangers of wifi. Children’s Health Defense, the anti-vaccine organization that Kennedy founded and is the chairman of, has long made a number of false claims about electromagnetic, wireless, and 5G technologies. Kennedy suggested that “wifi radiation” could be causing autism, food allergies, asthma, eczema, or other chronic illnesses, which Rogan, in a rare show of basic critical thinking, suggested was “unlikely.”

    “I think it degrades your mitochondria and it opens your blood-brain barrier,” Kennedy said, confidently.

    Rogan paused and then turned to his producer, Jamie, who often acts as the show’s researcher by Googling things. “Do you see anything online about that?” he asked. After a moment in Google, Rogan paused again.

    “Oh my God,” he said, finally, “we gotta get rid of wifi.”

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/spotify-rogan-rfk-vaccine-misinformation-policy/

    Too bad Joe Rogan is such an idiot. I would have asked RFK Jr. to define mitochondria. It would have made for amusing listening.

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      Rogan is such a brainless ape, he is the prime example of an idiot who will believe everything he reads on FB. I lose hope in humanity every time I see his podcast at the top of the charts.

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      I had to deal with so many of those people who insisted that their ‘wifi’ radiation is like an unshielded nuclear reactor. I would do my best to assauge their concerns… I was in customer service at the time.

      Now seeing someone like that in a very important position I find myself wondering if there is even a point to all this.

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        I have a feeling that people are starting subconsciously understand cell-phone and social media additiction and its effect on the brains of developing children, but can’t quite conceptualize it. So they turn to “wifi is dangerous because… radiation!”

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      Whenever conspiracy theorists start using "expensive"words is always when the funny stuff starts.

      Mitochondria? What is that, exactly? Van you explain what it is and how it interacts with the radiation from WiFi?

      Anyway, I love this, let’s see him ban WiFi in the US. At this point, I’d love seeing that happen.

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      Joe Rogan is a useful idiot at best, but likely just a guy who figures out he can be a millionaire if he just pushes the craziest bullshitters as serious and legit people. He caused so much harm already, he deserves to burn in hell.

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    US Government official wants to put people in concentration camps (no pun intended). Time to get the pitchforks.

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      Haven’t indians been in concentration camps for a while?

      Seems like business as usual.

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      he’s a cunt, but that’s not what he said at all….
      he said he wanted to establish optional camps to help people get off these drugs if they want to… and that they would grow their own organic food, because he sees diet as an underlying cause… not labor for other people….
      who knows what the real camps would be like but this is an old story taken to extreme assumptions

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        Ah I see you are a comrade who buys into phrasing like special operations not meaning invasion. Quite interesting isn’t it how effective simple word play leads to some members of the population insisting it isn’t what other people see it to be. Concentration camp? No no comrade we don’t call it that anymore.

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          who buys into phrasing like special operations not meaning invasion.

          ah i see you’re a fucking idiot

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          The policy, as stated by RFK is a progressive, left wing, anti punishment, anti incarceration, pro rehabilitation with origins in Europe.

          Implementation could be right wing but at face value this policy is left wing.

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            The policy, as stated by RFK is a progressive, left wing,

            Centrists will call anything progressive. Remember this shit next time a centrist calls one of their own number a progressive. They think concentration camps are progressive. They think concentration camps are progress itself.

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              Rehabilitation of illegal drugs in place of incarceration is undeniably left wing.

              Treatment for SSRI addiction was voluntary, not authoritarian.

              But you do have a point. Vigilance is important. Concentration camps were not announced, but an executive order could turn a “farm” into one overnight.

              The clue to the intentions will be in the scale of this policy. 2 farms is not worrying. 200 farms is.

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        You are a German citizen in late 1939 swallowing each and every Hitler’s lie. Wake up before it’s too late.

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        The issue is that what you see as an extreme assumption just seems entirely predictable to others.

        These guys are liars. They lie about everything, and say whatever they think will be advantageous at any given moment.

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        It kind of sounds like you are unfamiliar with the kinds of “options” people who get caught for drug related offenses are given. Even now it includes things like “optionally” being an informant, or else going to jail or prison. Or in other cases, “optionally” admit you are an addict and submit yourself to a court ordered rehabilitation program, or again, circle the incarceration drain. Should be noted that many of these “rehabilitation” programs in rural areas are faith based - as in, they care more about turning you into a Christian (of their particular denomination), than they do about rehabilitating your actual addiction.

        I have a suspicion that this new program is going to coincide with an upsurge in the drug war. I think it would be wise to err on the side of caution and stay away from all federally illegal substances. Supposedly RFK wants to fund this with cannabis taxes, but that is still federally illegal. So they could just as easily institute a cannabis crackdown if they wanted.

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            What do you mean? According to the article it’s what he said recently and is actively pursuing.

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              https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/07/rfk-jr-wants-to-send-people-on-antidepressants-to-government-wellness-farms/

              afaik he mentioned this one on the campaign trail in 2024 on a remote interview

              where he wanted to legalize cannabis and create wellness farms where instead of going to jail, drug offenders can go there to grow “organic food” and learn to be part of a community. he said that others could voluntarily go there if they want, such as people addicted to opiates and prescription drugs like benzos, SSRIs, benzos.

              it made the news cycle last year and it was taken mostly of out ccontext and it’s making the news cycle again, I guess.

              my personal opinion is the guy is a loon but this is a distraction from the realtime dismantling of the government we’re witnessing right before our eyes

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          And you often have the “option” of going to AA meetings, which are almost always religious, or the “option” of being imprisoned. It’s literally the government enforcing religion.

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            Yup, although, while I do agree that a lot of AA programs are just trojan religion, AA itself can sometimes be a little misrepresented. Like the controversial ‘higher power’ thing. Maybe not the best language, but I observed similar patterns in my own addiction remediation efforts. At least the way I interpret it is, I’m in this poor state that appears to complete lack the necessary differences in thinking that it would take to get myself out of this; therefore I’m powerless to stop this on my own. I need to seek out a third factor to set things in a different direction.

            It doesn’t need to be anything mystical. Could literally just be reading a book written by another addict, who happens to share an idea that catalyzes the right changes. Wisdom of an elder. But again, that might just be a misinterpretation on my part. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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              I hear this all the time, but I have to always point out that the only way to make Step 11 non-religious is to totally rewrite it:

              Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

              There is just not a way to interpret that non-religiously without rewriting it. Which is not surprising, since AA formed out of a prayer group.

              If AA helped you, I’m glad it did. But there’s no science behind it and AA’s success rate is between 5 and 10 percent. It does help some people mainly because it’s a form of group therapy.

              There are better, more scientific methods. Including medication. Unfortunately, in a for-profit healthcare system, free AA may be your only option. And your local group will almost certainly be religious.

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                If AA helped you, I’m glad it did. But there’s no science behind it and AA’s success rate is between 5 and 10 percent. It does help some people mainly because it’s a form of group therapy.

                And rehab and treatment has an even lower success rate. Turns out we don’t really know how to fix addiction. It’s really a cultural thing and we can’t put a bandaid with a little bit of therapy.

                https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/03/alcoholics-anonymous-most-effective-path-to-alcohol-abstinence.html

                From what I’ve seen AA / NA is at least as effective as other treatments, some research indicates it’s more effective, and considering the fact that it’s free compared to thousands of dollars minimum for any kind of treatment you’re looking at a massive price delta

                NA helped me get clean from heroin and at no point did anybody push religion and everyone made it clear the language is like that cause it was written a long time ago in a different time. They encourage people to take what they can use and throw away the rest.

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                Yikes, I wasn’t aware the language was so direct like that. 🤣 Yeah, nevermind then.

                I was never in AA, or any program for that matter. Just used to be a smoker, and have had pretty heavy drinking habits in the past.

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        How do you know what is going through his worm infested brain? I think its fair to assume the worst about this idiot and extrapolate what he actually means when he talks about these ‘wellness’ camps.

        At the very least, he wants to take meds away from people who need them to survive and be happy. That’s already batshit levels of insane and cruel. I don’t think forced labor camps are too much of a stretch from there.

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          he probably wants to but that isn’t what he said… 8 months ago….
          the actual president, who actually has some power to create concentration camps, has actually begun, in reality, doing that….
          oh but you don’t care because it’s more important to assume the worst because you think white americans might be affected by rfk jr’s assumed double secret plans

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            I mean I’m not a white american, and I don’t see why race matters in this conversation anyways. I’m not on meds, either, but I will speak out for those who are. Obviously, fuck Donald Trump and his literal concentration camp, but this thread was about RFK, and his hypothetical(for the moment) concentration camps, so idk what you are on about.

            We would probably be comrades irl. I literally think borders should be illegal, I think you are mad at the wrong person here.

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          basically… rehab for people on ssri’s and adderall….
          the real danger is people who need ssri’s being convinced to stop

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        I don’t see why you’re downvoted. The headline is directly misquoting him.

        I don’t agree with him on much, but having optional organic farms like a peace corp is not a terrible idea to help people. There’s lots of mental health benefits to getting into nature, eating healthy, being active, etc. It’s not going to help everyone, but that idea on its own isn’t crazy for a government mental health program.

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              The current administrations track record with things such as the COVID-19 epidemic would probably end with us smashing sparrows. I would love a proper New Deal - I hope the subsequent administration/government hires artists and architects and we spend our money on building new hospitals and painting them with murals. I would love protections for small farmers - perhaps the avian flu epidemic will devastate Tyson etc to the point small farming will be the only feasible option for a while and we can install protections so that this shit never happens again.

              That is not what is happening here though. The weaponization of mental health against minoritized groups, political dissidents, and activists is clearly the plan here.

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          The journalism is trash. The Author may think RFK is “Batshit” but they should never include such a word in a factual news report.

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    So, is going to send ALL those use Adderall? Really? What about Adderall abusers? Oh right, they have complete SCOTUS immunity.

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        Hitler just did regular amphetamine, not meth. This is closer to what adderal actually is.

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      and cocaine, and its well known he wears diaper because cocaine made him permanantly incontinent.

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        I actually can’t find anything about chronic cocaine use causing incontinence .

        Short-term it makes you get the shits, long term it can turn your bowels into non-functioning tubes of fecal compaction and cause lethal constipation or require surgery to remove the giant death-turds that will occur. As for urination, I suppose like anything you abuse it might cause damage to muscles or delicate blood vessels that allow organs like the bladder to function, but by that point you are more likely to see kidney death before bladder death.

        People can develop incontinence without any help from drugs too, it’s a common and embarrassing symptom that can be caused by a number of different diseases or conditions that can hit anyone at any age.

        Just throwing a little actual knowledge into a pool of speculation. I was raised by a cocaine addict in a family of cocaine addicts, I’ve seen its effects. I tend to think Trump does use stimulants or did for a long time, the way he speaks and his mannerisms lines up pretty close to what I’ve seen over and over. The shit will fuck up your brain long before it hits your guts.

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      Every time someone points out hypocrisy in this “administration” I want to smash my own skull through a marble table.

      Yes, they are massive hypocrites, they didn’t win leadership despite this fact, they won leadership BECAUSE of this fact. They appealed to the hateful while driving away the moderates and less engaged people by shitting in the political well. The people who voted these shitsacks into office are our nation’s most hateful, hypocritical idiots who see someone above the law as an “alpha” and will praise him every time he does something inconsistent, because they see it enrage normal, decent people and they consider that “winning.”

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      Yeah and they were actively pushing drugs on soldiers and pilot while actively putting “drug addicts/addled” people in concentration camps.

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      He’d sooner eat a bag of McDonalds than do a single crazy thing he promised. What’s that? He already did the McD thing? As a show of fealty to our new king? Oh, my.

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    republicans are silent on this. groceries cheaper yet?

    defunding huge amount of government agencies. where is that money going? into the economy? or musk and trumps pockets?

    why do republicans support giving even more money to the wealthy at the detriment of the rest of the country?

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      Good idea, they should keep feeding you adderall at the labour camp, much more effective 😋

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      Don’t worry, they’ll make sure to “protect” your loved ones if you keep working hard. Protect from what, you ask? Well, just keep working hard and you won’t need to worry about it.

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    I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it — to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities

    Yes I too read A Scanner Darkly dipshit. I’m absolutely sure you can’t wait to send people to the New-Path farming commune so that you can profit off of their altered state in hopes that “one day” they’ll be able to rejoin society.

    What a fucking dipshit. They just all honest to god want modern slaves. Like good god, there’s no veil to it any longer, they just want free fucking labor.

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    Why is this so highly upvoted? This is old (pre election) and the title is literally a lie invalidated by the article itself.