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  • It is not within the authority of the Governor of the state to use force against federal agents.

    These people pushing violence really seem to be happy with just throwing away everything about the country that we're trying to save. These people are in lock step with the MAGA bots on the issue:

    • Rules (only when I want them),
    • Violence (excusable if the target is right),
    • Democracy (They're trying to steal it so lets throw it in the garbage before they can).

    Don't confuse a lot of upvotes with a popular opinion, it is trivial to make vote boosting bots on Lemmy.

    If you are in the US, these people pushing this violent rhetoric are not on your side and are trying to push us into the same chaos as the MAGA forces.

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  • People should always be prepared as a general rule.

    I will not be part of any group that chooses to throw away democracy prior to exhausting every possible option.

    If they disrupt the elections and refuse to leave office then that's the red line where they cease to be duly elected officers and become enemies of the state who would be illegally occupying the White House and in need of an escort off of the premises by any means necessary.

  • Sorry mate. No need to apologize.

    I hope you make peace with whatever it is that is troubling you.

  • The first day that they disrupt elections or refuse to leave office after losing an election, that's the red line where they are clearly and blatantly outside of the bounds of constitution are an enemy of the state illegally occupying an office and can be removed by force.

    You can't believe in democracy and also want to throw it away as anything but an absolute last resort. Give the system every chance to work so you will be completely morally justified in what comes after.

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  • I completely understand the sentiment, I disagree with the timing

  • Then you're part of the problem.

    I find it hard to believe that:

    • You really believe that there is a civil war coming;
    • Are openly calling for violence on public social media and also;
    • Live in the United States

    It seems a little suicidal, if your worldview is correct, to be openly advocating for violence against an administration that has shown no qualms about using terrorism laws against detractors and who controls one of the most comprehensive intelligence systems ever created.

    Kinda sounds like someone who isn't in the US and is just stirring up shit for a paycheck.

  • No power?

    If the judges have no power then why is Abrego Garcia not in CECOT? Why are there not National Guard soldiers in California?

    That's only the high profile cases, the cases regarding funding and people's firings being overturned don't make the news.

    Here's all of the court cases involving the Trump administration: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/projects-series/trials-of-the-trump-administration/tracking-trump-administration-litigation as you can see the vast majority of them are Trump losing and then losing on Appeal.

  • This is a person relying to my comment, where I was talking specifically about court orders.

    Their response was not about court orders. If they want to reply to what I said then reply to what I said instead of attacking a strawman position that looks like the commenter doesn't understand the difference between branches of government in the US.

  • Could you want that from a distance, possibly tending to the far right in your own country and not interfere?

    Even if you mean well, you are stiring up the exact evil that you want to avoid for yourself.

    The States have the authority to prosecute these people for their crimes and even if you don't think that they will face any investigation at a federal level, there is no statute of limitations on murder and a host of other crimes.

    Demanding that this be solved tomorrow is not constructive because it is not possible. There are processes in place, that are outside of the control of the executive office, to handle an out of control Executive (and Judicial) branches.

    Congress has the real governmental power in the US Government. Congress can impeach and remove a President. Congress can impeach and remove a Supreme Court Justice. Congress can cut off funding for Executive operations.

    That all depends on people in Congress being willing to do their jobs. Unfortunately, we have a bunch of sycophants who's role in this fiasco is to paralyze Congress in order to prevent it from acting. Those sycophants can lose control of congress in the upcoming mid-terms if people actually vote.

    If you want to help, stop pouring gasoline on the fire of flashpoint issues and start looking at the upcoming election. If you're just here to stir shit, then kindly fuck off.

  • True, and if our system fails and the elections process are messed with then I will have a different opinion about what should be done. I'm not saying that violence isn't ever necessary (most of my family are veterans or active duty, I understand), I'm saying that the people pushing violence now are agitators trying to make a bad situation worse.

    Until then, I'm not ready to throw away our entire country because I'm furious at these white supremacists in ICE uniforms. Their day is coming and everyone who ordered and enabled this all the way up to the top will face the same justice.

  • I agree, and I hope we see a lot of them in prison for this.

    Their actions do not justify even more people to ignore the constitution and law in order to commit violence.

  • It's perfectly understandable to be angry and to want to see something done.

    It is not understandable to think that, just because there is anger and frustration that we can ignore the rules, laws and principals of the country that we claim to want to keep.

    If someone thinks that people should be shooting ICE officers in the street then they are an agent of chaos, not a supporter of the United States.

    This doesn't change because there are fascists in office. If you don't want fascists in office then vote people into congress in the midterms that can impeach and remove them because that is how our system works. The people pushing FUD and violence want people to think that this is impossible, that the only choices are that we should just give up, comply in advance or start killing people.

    It's bullshit, it's a pushed message that is amplified by people who have no context to understand the decisions that they're promoting.

    There is no world where abandoning democracy and our system of government to engage in an orgy of violence is the correct path. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not on our team.

  • That is a law, not a court order. Laws are written by Legislative branch and court orders are written by the Judicial branch.

    The law defines a date when the documents should be released but also, conveniently, did not include any penalties or enforcement mechanisms. They are in violation of the law, a law that was written with no penalty for violation.

    There has not been a court case about enforcing this law, if there was then a court order would be written and, then, if they decided to ignore it then you would have a point.

    A law and a court order are documents from two completely different branches of government.

  • The people piling in these comment threads to sow violence are not even americans, what makes you think that they care about one faction or another. They just want chaos.

    Every country that uses social media bots is headed by a dictator who benefits from chaos in the US. Until proven otherwise, I'm assuming that anyone calling for violence is aligned with the bot army.

  • BPP is right about at least one thing. If they go out armed, they do not go out alone.

    I find it hard to believe that these guy would be so gung-ho about smashing a guy in the face with a bear spray canister if his friends are standing nearby with semi-automatic shotguns.

  • We should imprison all ICE agents. And if they were to go missing and/or die, I would not lose a wink of sleep.

    Are you on the side of the rule of law and democracy or the side of might makes right? Because, I'm not aware of any way to have people 'go missing' in prison that would not violate the constitution.

    I believe the first part but think the second part is abhorrent and unAmerican.

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