“We.” Always a red flag when someone admits to participating in lolcow shit; buncha chuds bullying autistic kids online.
Edit: hey, all you chuds who are getting mad about this comment, you’re not fooling anyone either, it’s just other chuds telling you that you’ve done enough. “Edgy” isn’t the same as bullying people to suicide because they’re weird, that isn’t normal teen behaviour, it comes from internalized values that you will still hold unless you actually address what you believe and why; just not bullying people online anymore isn’t the same thing as learning to be better.
The human brain doesn’t fully develop until the mid twenties, and empathy is one of the last things that fully develops. So the nihilistic online edge lord culture is one you can genuinely age out of.
… empathy is one of the last things that fully develops.
That’s not true at all. If you didn’t develop empathy in preschool and have fully developed sense of empathy by middle to high school, you had some serious developmental issues or were raised in a bad environment.
That doesn’t mean middle and high school kids can’t be mean. That cruelty can’t be excused by undeveloped empathy. In fact, they most certainly know how the person feels and are intentionally making them feel bad.
Those are not facts, but complete bullshit, and I think you know that. Unless you’re citing sociology of course where everything is facts if you feel like it is.
I honestly haven’t seen evidence of that, most of them certainly learn that the behaviour is looked down upon and may feel guilt over it, that isn’t the same thing as growing out of it. There’s a very large number of people whose morality is oriented around whether or not they’re caught, not honest, vulnerable interrogation of themselves and committing to change.
You’re talking to at least two former edgelords and the one typing now did a complete 180 at 18.
I was a weird kid in the 90s in a predominantly white/Catholic town where bigotry was the norm. I wasn’t into the god stuff which made me an outcast in my community and home life wasn’t very welcoming, either. I had unfiltered internet access and found a community who accepted me. And having no one to tell my otherwise, I thought their behavior was fine.
Ironically, that same lack of parental oversight saved my life because I decided to go to art school.
First time meeting a black person. Wow, they’re just like me. First time hanging out with gay people. Wow, they’re not trying to fuck me? Freshman year, I learned that everything I knew was wrong. And now I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m on an antifa watch list.
So what do you call it when someone learns their opinions are wrong and changes? What is developing emotional maturity through experience if not “growing out of it?”
What a depressing state of mind you must live in to think that people are only capable of changing for the worse.
Oh well, if an anonymous stranger online says that their own personal experience says so 🤷♀️
Again, a lot of you are troubled by the idea that morality isn’t as simple as just not doing the bad thing. I live in a much more optimistic world than the one you just portrayed.
Its obvious when you guys are making excuses for yourselves and passing it off as some act of empathy or understanding. That’s also just false, btw, and I never wanted to hurt vulnerable people even when I was young.
I think you underestimate how long the term has been around, and I’ve hidden nothing. I accept the shitty person I was. Have you confronted your deficiencies as a human being?
I believe they took offense, leading them to act uncharacteristically. I firmly believe that they are a good person. Weighing someone unaccustomed to being in the middle of an argument, while they feel unsafe, certainly isn’t fair to them.
And make no mistake, 9999 times out of 10000, they’d be right to take some amount of offense. Their chosen verbiage just triggered a landmine.
But thank you, it’s kind of you to affirm that I’m not 200% dead puppies all the time!
It’s completely in character for me to challenge fascists when I see them. You people seriously have to develop a more nuanced understanding of yourselves. Just because you know something is wrong without knowing why, doesnt mean you’ve stopped doing the wrong thing. Good people aren’t just people who are lucky enough to not make bad decisions, it’s about fostering the discipline and accountability to interrogate your actions and challenge their underlying harmful values; you clearly have not done that work.
I know how long the term has been around bud, we haven’t even had this internet shit fifty years for fuck’s sake. If you accept the shitty person you “were,” why did you just produce a cruel estimation of some other person online just because you found their behaviour cringe again? This is the kind of “acceptance” people adopt when they feel guilt but don’t want to change. It’s also so telling to write off actual malice and cruelty in such a fundamental way as “well we all do had things.” No, I’ve never had the inclination to treat a vulnerable person badly, go figure.
And lol, lmao, yes. Which is how I can see straight through this kind of bullshit.
I want to congratulate you for having a normal upbringing, then. I’m not going to offer anything identifying, because I’m not an idiot, but I grew up surrounded by corpses and continued to develop elsewhere in a state of nihilism and rage bred by a family, myself included, in the throes of constantly triggered ptsd. You do not understand enough to judge an internet stranger by their arbitrary admissions. Your scope of understanding is limited by the offense you’ve taken and your frame of reference.
And It’s not just “cringe.” It’s an extreme social trespass and transgression to, and follow me on this, tell someone to break up with their partner because of an llm’s estimation of your desires. Whether satire or not, this person fits within the fringe groups. I’d otherwise call them an incel, but they seem particularly unhinged. Which pejorative do you prefer for a person who parasocially adheres to someone and decides upon their future? This is like defending pedophiles under the umbrella of lgbtq.
Bud, I am not the person to use some sob story to justify cruelty, I know it doesn’t. It may explain it, but you’re using that to rationalize it. The fact you once again just resorted to “you’re too sensitive,” as a fucking excuse for yourself it another good s indicator that no, you haven’t addressed the issue.
This also isn’t an incel…and it is so interesting that you took that opportunity to try and obscure and reduce the harm that incel culture causes to justify making fun of some cringe. I wonder why that’d be. The queer comment was also just straight up bigoted again, we all know that isn’t comparable and it’s once again telling that you think it is. Oh, is it worse to be weird than an actual fascist? Strange.
I see you dude, not because I’m a mind reader or whatever you wanna pretend, but because you’re saying things that reveal fundamental values and it’s obvious you didn’t realize that.
My first paragraph in reply was in reference to you patting yourself on the back for never having a cruel thought. I admit, I should have clarified rather than jumping into vitriol.
Do you genuinely not understand why someone would search for exceedingly harmful words for a person trying something this creepy? I feel like I need to understand that before I can begin to understand anything else you’ve said.
And I recognize my long road. My first comment was actively chiding me. This is like going to AA and going “I think these people are addicts.”
It is honestly so difficult to explain to people like this that they’re being harmful even when they recognize one element of that harm and take it as the endpoint. You just compared this to an online cultural space that literally advocates for and has facilitated dozens of mass murders under the premise of misogyny and aggrieved entitlement. Maybe if those things are comparable to you, you aren’t the right person to be talking about it, and presuming you are is exactly what the issue is.
If you call someone an asshole, that is not the same thing as calling them a slur, and either choice represents different kinds of people. It is not that you were a big stinky meanie, but that the beliefs behind these words are fundamentally bigoted. Yes, fucking lolcow culture that enabled the mass harassment of disabled people, often younger, sometimes even to the point of suicide, is not a suitable thing to refer to some person being weird about something you find gross. Even if you look at this as harassment, comparing it to fascist terrorists only serves to obscure the specificity and ideology of that culture and its very real politics as well as the hundreds of people who have been killed because of it (and that’s without even addressing how this culture is directly linked to the current popularity of fascist politics in the US, then we’re really talking about a mass scale of suffering you think is trivial).
So, why would a person who openly admitted to participating in exceptionally cruel group behaviour then take an opportunity to do something like that? hmmmmmm.🤔
But sure, totally dude, you feel super bad about it and rib yourself for it, so that makes it okay to still believe in. You can tell this site is mostly men because of exactly shit like this, where you clearly have empathy for only one group involved in this violence, and it isn’t the victims.
Considering the circumstances in which the term was originally coined
The Original lolcow is Chris Chan, who was baited dozens of times by trolls into doing ridiculous things on camera at 4chan in the /cow/ board.
Thus, the term lolcow.
Which means that people who find baiting “lolcows” funny are 4chan types by default. Therefore, unless the context tells me otherwise, just uttering the term is a ginormous red flag for me.
Bud, just because it sometimes happens to bad people, doesn’t mean it is not wrong to reproduce cultural norms that target vulnerable groups of people. “Lolcow” was used to refer to autistic people online pretty much exclusively, and the cruel culture behind it has literally resulted in multiple suicides of completely innocent if unpalletable people. This commenter went on to say actual fascist shit to defend this, and that isn’t a coincidence.
You can tell the demos of this site based on shit like this. Yeah, I’m sure a bunch of you were edgy teen boys and you want to pretend that was okay (or even natural) because you were kids and “didnt know better,” but subscribing to bigotry as an adult clearly shows that you don’t understand why it was wrong, just that it was wrong.
The Original lolcow is Chris Chan, who was baited dozens of times by trolls into doing ridiculous things on camera at 4chan in the /cow/ board.
Thus, the term lolcow.
There’s a stark difference between accountability and what you’re doing, which is insisting that no one ever gets to improve their behaviour or learn from their mistakes. That doesn’t make a better world, it makes the worst possible one.
If people can only ever be as good as the worst thing they’ve done, then why should anyone ever aspire to be anything better than the worst possible version of themselves?
I think you should go tell a therapist that your reading of “you have to work at being vulnerable to change, and superficial improvement isn’t enough” was “nobody can change.”
Read down my thread, this dickbag went on to say that cringeshippers are the same as incels and that the problem with “lolcow” is that it’s a mean word, not that it’s fucking bigoted with a violent history. Also a lot of gaslighty “I’ll take the higher ground,” bullshit without even acknowledging how fucking fascist that is.
this dickbag went on to say that cringeshippers are the same as incels
I said this cringeshipper behaves like an incel. And I continued by telling you that you do not understand what an incel is in the same way that I did not understand the harm in my words.
and that the problem with “lolcow” is that it’s a mean word, not that it’s fucking bigoted with a violent history.
Not what I said in the least.
Also a lot of gaslighty “I’ll take the higher ground,” bullshit without even acknowledging how fucking fascist that is.
I was preventing people from flaming you by contextualizing your feelings in a way that would allow them to exit the conversation. Which I do not regret, considering the horrendous trash I just read from you.
Your deradicalization attempts seem actively antithetical to your goal, considering I’ve now seen you attempting to start flame wars with like 6 separate people who did not grow up in the state of privilege necessary to sustain your Abelardian moral complex.
I acknowledged my shittyness and you responded with smugness and wandered off. I saw you tell some guy that he is the sum of all of his moral failures- that they have no hope of redemption because they were a cruel teenager. What the fuck is wrong with you? That’s some incredibly harsh, unabashedly destructive and dishonest conversation that most people would not tolerate, let alone improve from.
You speak like a human being untouched by light and I say this with the utmost concern for you and the people you’re speaking to, you need to touch grass and talk to actual people before you can even consider deradicalizing anyone. My fucking word.
Dude would you shut the fuck up about privilege? I know for an absolute fact that not being privileged doesn’t make you any more likely to be cruel or any less able to fucking learn the actual morality behind your actions.
I did not fucking say anything close to that. I’ve told people like you, fuckin men, that they actually have to work at addressing why they did something bad and actually change their values, not just fucking say that it was bad and they don’t do bad things now and think that’s the end of it. That so many of you have read this as “there’s no hope for change,” is exactly my fucking point, and it isn’t for you dickheads it’s for the dozens of other people I’ve seen come across this thread. You have any idea how much harm men like you cause? Shut the fuck up about having a hard life and how sorry you are just fucking do the values if you’ve addressed them so effectively.
You didn’t today, and you don’t get to decide when other people should be fine with your behaviour, which is another reason you have to take accountability for it, not just guilt. I’m also correctly picking out these abuser flags, whether you like it or not. You said some bigoted shit and then followed that up by openly admitting that you don’t think incels are really all that bad, only just as bad as this weirdy this post is about; its a fucking genocidal cult that has successfully propagated a distinct form of scotastic terrorism and is responsible for hundreds of mass murders.
Shut the absolute fuck up dude, you are a piece of shit, not for the shit from your past, but because of your refusal to address the way you understand things today. If you really got it, understood what you did wrong, you’d have made it clear above that you seriously devalued women and disabled people today, but you didn’t, did you? No, you just tried to act like you were a more level headed and moral person already. When that didn’t work and you didn’t like how I was telling other people about you, you send this shit like you’re doing something. Go look up what abusers do after gaslighting fails.
I’m being serious when I say I see you dude, you’re not a complicated person, and I know that sucks because you really thought that made your actions more justifiable, didn’t it?
Dude would you shut the fuck up about privilege? I know for an absolute fact that not being privileged doesn’t make you any more likely to be cruel or any less able to fucking learn the actual morality behind your actions.
You genuinely know and understand none of what I was communicating if this is your takeaway. You lack any degree of necessary context about the world to speak on the topics you pretend to understand.
I did not fucking say anything close to that. I’ve told people like you, fuckin men, that they actually have to work at addressing why they did something bad and actually change their values, not just fucking say that it was bad and they don’t do bad things now and think that’s the end of it. That so many of you have read this as “there’s no hope for change,” is exactly my fucking point, and it isn’t for you dickheads it’s for the dozens of other people I’ve seen come across this thread. You have any idea how much harm men like you cause? Shut the fuck up about having a hard life and how sorry you are just fucking do the values if you’ve addressed them so effectively.
Not a man, by the way. I never cared to correct your assumption because it wasn’t relevant and you seemed to be having fun saying it. Morality is based in, and relies on having role models capable of offering this information. You conflate improvement with perfection. You literally know nothing about social development and your ability to grasp that is nonexistent. Do. better.
You didn’t today, and you don’t get to decide when other people should be fine with your behaviour, which is another reason you have to take accountability for it, not just guilt. I’m also correctly picking out these abuser flags, whether you like it or not. You said some bigoted shit and then followed that up by openly admitting that you don’t think incels are really all that bad, only just as bad as this weirdy this post is about; its a fucking genocidal cult that has successfully propagated a distinct form of scotastic terrorism and is responsible for hundreds of mass murders.
I never said that what I did was okay, and I’m not interested in your acceptance, I’m interested in that of the disadvantaged people I work and live with. You make assumptions like an old republican watching an immigrant laboring in public. And once again, you don’t understand what an incel is. You’re describing someone who partakes of incel culture. There are no good people in incel culture. You can do nothing but conflate and misunderstand because your cursory understanding is worthless, which is why I tried to have you ask questions instead of shouting at me like an idiot about a topic you know too little about.
Shut the absolute fuck up dude, you are a piece of shit, not for the shit from your past, but because of your refusal to address the way you understand things today. I’d you really got it, you’d have made it clear above that you seriously devalued women and disabled people today, but you didn’t, did you? No, you just tried to act like you were a more level headed and moral person already.
I covered this already, but you conflate improvement with perfection. Which is something that you need to work on.
Your adrenaline ran incredibly high and you physically cannot comprehend what I have been saying to you if half of this is your takeaway. Between that and the open, festering trauma wounds, there is tremendous work to be done because this early 20s speaking at people in a stress fueled stroke risk state isn’t serving you. Were I actually interested in harming you or anyone else, I would simply continue speaking to you to induce your premature death via brain bleed. You are actively killing yourself, you beautiful idiot. Don’t give me or anyone else that.
I looked up “yumeship” and just found more incomprehensible delusional niche culture bullshit
https://everskies.com/club/yumeship/forums/rules/basic-yume-info-64736976
The site above is accessible language-wise. They seem to be either fucking with OOP, or mentally ill, or 11.
Edit: removed a thing, language drift is a helluva drug
“We.” Always a red flag when someone admits to participating in lolcow shit; buncha chuds bullying autistic kids online.
Edit: hey, all you chuds who are getting mad about this comment, you’re not fooling anyone either, it’s just other chuds telling you that you’ve done enough. “Edgy” isn’t the same as bullying people to suicide because they’re weird, that isn’t normal teen behaviour, it comes from internalized values that you will still hold unless you actually address what you believe and why; just not bullying people online anymore isn’t the same thing as learning to be better.
The human brain doesn’t fully develop until the mid twenties, and empathy is one of the last things that fully develops. So the nihilistic online edge lord culture is one you can genuinely age out of.
That’s not true at all. If you didn’t develop empathy in preschool and have fully developed sense of empathy by middle to high school, you had some serious developmental issues or were raised in a bad environment.
That doesn’t mean middle and high school kids can’t be mean. That cruelty can’t be excused by undeveloped empathy. In fact, they most certainly know how the person feels and are intentionally making them feel bad.
I said it doesn’t develop fully until adulthood. Not that it isn’t there at all until then.
And I’m saying it fully develops before adulthood. Usually, somewhere around 12 years old.
Before puberty?
Yeah, and the skills keep developing but by then they should be able to see things from another person’s perspective.
Those are not facts, but complete bullshit, and I think you know that. Unless you’re citing sociology of course where everything is facts if you feel like it is.
Both of those things are wrong. You should look up what the actual study on brain maturity concluded instead of regurgitating factoids online.
The factoids might be wrong but the conclusion isn’t. Most edgelords age out it
I honestly haven’t seen evidence of that, most of them certainly learn that the behaviour is looked down upon and may feel guilt over it, that isn’t the same thing as growing out of it. There’s a very large number of people whose morality is oriented around whether or not they’re caught, not honest, vulnerable interrogation of themselves and committing to change.
You’re talking to at least two former edgelords and the one typing now did a complete 180 at 18.
I was a weird kid in the 90s in a predominantly white/Catholic town where bigotry was the norm. I wasn’t into the god stuff which made me an outcast in my community and home life wasn’t very welcoming, either. I had unfiltered internet access and found a community who accepted me. And having no one to tell my otherwise, I thought their behavior was fine.
Ironically, that same lack of parental oversight saved my life because I decided to go to art school.
First time meeting a black person. Wow, they’re just like me. First time hanging out with gay people. Wow, they’re not trying to fuck me? Freshman year, I learned that everything I knew was wrong. And now I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m on an antifa watch list.
So what do you call it when someone learns their opinions are wrong and changes? What is developing emotional maturity through experience if not “growing out of it?”
What a depressing state of mind you must live in to think that people are only capable of changing for the worse.
Oh well, if an anonymous stranger online says that their own personal experience says so 🤷♀️
Again, a lot of you are troubled by the idea that morality isn’t as simple as just not doing the bad thing. I live in a much more optimistic world than the one you just portrayed.
Its obvious when you guys are making excuses for yourselves and passing it off as some act of empathy or understanding. That’s also just false, btw, and I never wanted to hurt vulnerable people even when I was young.
You’re really interesting.
I know.
It can develop earlier if you guide them
deleted by creator
I hear you but for me in my early 20s I was on IRC getting drunk and high trying to bang chicks. When did we lose the plot? Lol
I think you underestimate how long the term has been around, and I’ve hidden nothing. I accept the shitty person I was. Have you confronted your deficiencies as a human being?
Foreshadowing: they have not.
Sounds to me you’re now a better person than you were; be proud of that ^_^
I believe they took offense, leading them to act uncharacteristically. I firmly believe that they are a good person. Weighing someone unaccustomed to being in the middle of an argument, while they feel unsafe, certainly isn’t fair to them.
And make no mistake, 9999 times out of 10000, they’d be right to take some amount of offense. Their chosen verbiage just triggered a landmine.
But thank you, it’s kind of you to affirm that I’m not 200% dead puppies all the time!
Dead puppies aren’t much fun.
They certainly aren’t. :(
It’s completely in character for me to challenge fascists when I see them. You people seriously have to develop a more nuanced understanding of yourselves. Just because you know something is wrong without knowing why, doesnt mean you’ve stopped doing the wrong thing. Good people aren’t just people who are lucky enough to not make bad decisions, it’s about fostering the discipline and accountability to interrogate your actions and challenge their underlying harmful values; you clearly have not done that work.
God you guys are so masturbatory.
Whatever gets you off mate.
No judgement on your kinks here.
I know how long the term has been around bud, we haven’t even had this internet shit fifty years for fuck’s sake. If you accept the shitty person you “were,” why did you just produce a cruel estimation of some other person online just because you found their behaviour cringe again? This is the kind of “acceptance” people adopt when they feel guilt but don’t want to change. It’s also so telling to write off actual malice and cruelty in such a fundamental way as “well we all do had things.” No, I’ve never had the inclination to treat a vulnerable person badly, go figure.
And lol, lmao, yes. Which is how I can see straight through this kind of bullshit.
I want to congratulate you for having a normal upbringing, then. I’m not going to offer anything identifying, because I’m not an idiot, but I grew up surrounded by corpses and continued to develop elsewhere in a state of nihilism and rage bred by a family, myself included, in the throes of constantly triggered ptsd. You do not understand enough to judge an internet stranger by their arbitrary admissions. Your scope of understanding is limited by the offense you’ve taken and your frame of reference.
And It’s not just “cringe.” It’s an extreme social trespass and transgression to, and follow me on this, tell someone to break up with their partner because of an llm’s estimation of your desires. Whether satire or not, this person fits within the fringe groups. I’d otherwise call them an incel, but they seem particularly unhinged. Which pejorative do you prefer for a person who parasocially adheres to someone and decides upon their future? This is like defending pedophiles under the umbrella of lgbtq.
I’m glad you’re a better person now.
Same. For my sake and everyone else’s. The world needs broken people like a slug needs salt.
Some taste bland without it
They aren’t.
Bud, I am not the person to use some sob story to justify cruelty, I know it doesn’t. It may explain it, but you’re using that to rationalize it. The fact you once again just resorted to “you’re too sensitive,” as a fucking excuse for yourself it another good s indicator that no, you haven’t addressed the issue.
This also isn’t an incel…and it is so interesting that you took that opportunity to try and obscure and reduce the harm that incel culture causes to justify making fun of some cringe. I wonder why that’d be. The queer comment was also just straight up bigoted again, we all know that isn’t comparable and it’s once again telling that you think it is. Oh, is it worse to be weird than an actual fascist? Strange.
I see you dude, not because I’m a mind reader or whatever you wanna pretend, but because you’re saying things that reveal fundamental values and it’s obvious you didn’t realize that.
Why aren’t you upset that the VA put this person on blast by posting the screenshot instead of offering their personal support?
Is it because this kind of behavior is incredibly fuckin creepy and shouldn’t be coddled in any way?
And why doesn’t it come into play that this delusional weirdo is causing very real emotional distress to the VA?
Oh that’s simple, because that isnt what I’m talking about. Reread the first comment I made.
My first paragraph in reply was in reference to you patting yourself on the back for never having a cruel thought. I admit, I should have clarified rather than jumping into vitriol.
Do you genuinely not understand why someone would search for exceedingly harmful words for a person trying something this creepy? I feel like I need to understand that before I can begin to understand anything else you’ve said.
And I recognize my long road. My first comment was actively chiding me. This is like going to AA and going “I think these people are addicts.”
It is honestly so difficult to explain to people like this that they’re being harmful even when they recognize one element of that harm and take it as the endpoint. You just compared this to an online cultural space that literally advocates for and has facilitated dozens of mass murders under the premise of misogyny and aggrieved entitlement. Maybe if those things are comparable to you, you aren’t the right person to be talking about it, and presuming you are is exactly what the issue is.
If you call someone an asshole, that is not the same thing as calling them a slur, and either choice represents different kinds of people. It is not that you were a big stinky meanie, but that the beliefs behind these words are fundamentally bigoted. Yes, fucking lolcow culture that enabled the mass harassment of disabled people, often younger, sometimes even to the point of suicide, is not a suitable thing to refer to some person being weird about something you find gross. Even if you look at this as harassment, comparing it to fascist terrorists only serves to obscure the specificity and ideology of that culture and its very real politics as well as the hundreds of people who have been killed because of it (and that’s without even addressing how this culture is directly linked to the current popularity of fascist politics in the US, then we’re really talking about a mass scale of suffering you think is trivial).
So, why would a person who openly admitted to participating in exceptionally cruel group behaviour then take an opportunity to do something like that? hmmmmmm.🤔
But sure, totally dude, you feel super bad about it and rib yourself for it, so that makes it okay to still believe in. You can tell this site is mostly men because of exactly shit like this, where you clearly have empathy for only one group involved in this violence, and it isn’t the victims.
Piratesoftware is a lolcow
And?
Calling someone a lolcow is not a wrong thing per se.
Considering the circumstances in which the term was originally coined, i don’t think so.
The Original lolcow is Chris Chan, who was baited dozens of times by trolls into doing ridiculous things on camera at 4chan in the /cow/ board.
Thus, the term lolcow.
Which means that people who find baiting “lolcows” funny are 4chan types by default. Therefore, unless the context tells me otherwise, just uttering the term is a ginormous red flag for me.
Bud, just because it sometimes happens to bad people, doesn’t mean it is not wrong to reproduce cultural norms that target vulnerable groups of people. “Lolcow” was used to refer to autistic people online pretty much exclusively, and the cruel culture behind it has literally resulted in multiple suicides of completely innocent if unpalletable people. This commenter went on to say actual fascist shit to defend this, and that isn’t a coincidence.
You can tell the demos of this site based on shit like this. Yeah, I’m sure a bunch of you were edgy teen boys and you want to pretend that was okay (or even natural) because you were kids and “didnt know better,” but subscribing to bigotry as an adult clearly shows that you don’t understand why it was wrong, just that it was wrong.
The Original lolcow is Chris Chan, who was baited dozens of times by trolls into doing ridiculous things on camera at 4chan in the /cow/ board.
Thus, the term lolcow.
Are you patronising?
Even if just colloquially.
There’s a stark difference between accountability and what you’re doing, which is insisting that no one ever gets to improve their behaviour or learn from their mistakes. That doesn’t make a better world, it makes the worst possible one.
If people can only ever be as good as the worst thing they’ve done, then why should anyone ever aspire to be anything better than the worst possible version of themselves?
I think you should go tell a therapist that your reading of “you have to work at being vulnerable to change, and superficial improvement isn’t enough” was “nobody can change.”
deleted by creator
That came off as kinda desperate, ngl. If you didnt realize it, then just use it, you don’t gotta do this whole thing to safe face to strangers.
Well said
the problem with those definitions is that most people don’t even know what “shipping” is.
Yeah I read that and still don’t understand what they’re talking about.
You’re right, and I hate that I didn’t even notice that.
Way to admit to being part of some of the absolute worst parts of the internet and humanity itself.
How many people did you dox? How many comments did you leave on peoples’ dox?
Do you have any fucking idea how much pointless suffering the whole “lolcow” trash had caused? Up to and including actual suicides?
Fuck you and fuck everyone associated with that kiwifarms life ruining trash.
I don’t think kiwifarms even existed when I was using the term.
Yeah, my use of the term predated it by a decade. 0 doxing, for the record.
And no, I wasn’t aware. I’m pretty apparently using a term antiquatedly
at least a decade. we were using it on IRC iirc
Read down my thread, this dickbag went on to say that cringeshippers are the same as incels and that the problem with “lolcow” is that it’s a mean word, not that it’s fucking bigoted with a violent history. Also a lot of gaslighty “I’ll take the higher ground,” bullshit without even acknowledging how fucking fascist that is.
I said this cringeshipper behaves like an incel. And I continued by telling you that you do not understand what an incel is in the same way that I did not understand the harm in my words.
Not what I said in the least.
I was preventing people from flaming you by contextualizing your feelings in a way that would allow them to exit the conversation. Which I do not regret, considering the horrendous trash I just read from you.
Your deradicalization attempts seem actively antithetical to your goal, considering I’ve now seen you attempting to start flame wars with like 6 separate people who did not grow up in the state of privilege necessary to sustain your Abelardian moral complex.
I acknowledged my shittyness and you responded with smugness and wandered off. I saw you tell some guy that he is the sum of all of his moral failures- that they have no hope of redemption because they were a cruel teenager. What the fuck is wrong with you? That’s some incredibly harsh, unabashedly destructive and dishonest conversation that most people would not tolerate, let alone improve from.
You speak like a human being untouched by light and I say this with the utmost concern for you and the people you’re speaking to, you need to touch grass and talk to actual people before you can even consider deradicalizing anyone. My fucking word.
Dude would you shut the fuck up about privilege? I know for an absolute fact that not being privileged doesn’t make you any more likely to be cruel or any less able to fucking learn the actual morality behind your actions.
I did not fucking say anything close to that. I’ve told people like you, fuckin men, that they actually have to work at addressing why they did something bad and actually change their values, not just fucking say that it was bad and they don’t do bad things now and think that’s the end of it. That so many of you have read this as “there’s no hope for change,” is exactly my fucking point, and it isn’t for you dickheads it’s for the dozens of other people I’ve seen come across this thread. You have any idea how much harm men like you cause? Shut the fuck up about having a hard life and how sorry you are just fucking do the values if you’ve addressed them so effectively.
You didn’t today, and you don’t get to decide when other people should be fine with your behaviour, which is another reason you have to take accountability for it, not just guilt. I’m also correctly picking out these abuser flags, whether you like it or not. You said some bigoted shit and then followed that up by openly admitting that you don’t think incels are really all that bad, only just as bad as this weirdy this post is about; its a fucking genocidal cult that has successfully propagated a distinct form of scotastic terrorism and is responsible for hundreds of mass murders.
Shut the absolute fuck up dude, you are a piece of shit, not for the shit from your past, but because of your refusal to address the way you understand things today. If you really got it, understood what you did wrong, you’d have made it clear above that you seriously devalued women and disabled people today, but you didn’t, did you? No, you just tried to act like you were a more level headed and moral person already. When that didn’t work and you didn’t like how I was telling other people about you, you send this shit like you’re doing something. Go look up what abusers do after gaslighting fails.
I’m being serious when I say I see you dude, you’re not a complicated person, and I know that sucks because you really thought that made your actions more justifiable, didn’t it?
Edit: a very fun read indeed: https://www.domesticshelters.org/articles/lists/18-things-abusers-do-when-they-re-gaslighting
You genuinely know and understand none of what I was communicating if this is your takeaway. You lack any degree of necessary context about the world to speak on the topics you pretend to understand.
Not a man, by the way. I never cared to correct your assumption because it wasn’t relevant and you seemed to be having fun saying it. Morality is based in, and relies on having role models capable of offering this information. You conflate improvement with perfection. You literally know nothing about social development and your ability to grasp that is nonexistent. Do. better.
I never said that what I did was okay, and I’m not interested in your acceptance, I’m interested in that of the disadvantaged people I work and live with. You make assumptions like an old republican watching an immigrant laboring in public. And once again, you don’t understand what an incel is. You’re describing someone who partakes of incel culture. There are no good people in incel culture. You can do nothing but conflate and misunderstand because your cursory understanding is worthless, which is why I tried to have you ask questions instead of shouting at me like an idiot about a topic you know too little about.
I covered this already, but you conflate improvement with perfection. Which is something that you need to work on.
Your adrenaline ran incredibly high and you physically cannot comprehend what I have been saying to you if half of this is your takeaway. Between that and the open, festering trauma wounds, there is tremendous work to be done because this early 20s speaking at people in a stress fueled stroke risk state isn’t serving you. Were I actually interested in harming you or anyone else, I would simply continue speaking to you to induce your premature death via brain bleed. You are actively killing yourself, you beautiful idiot. Don’t give me or anyone else that.
👍
deleted by creator
Yume might be related to the Japanese for dream? 夢 I have no idea, though.