The human brain doesn’t fully develop until the mid twenties, and empathy is one of the last things that fully develops. So the nihilistic online edge lord culture is one you can genuinely age out of.
… empathy is one of the last things that fully develops.
That’s not true at all. If you didn’t develop empathy in preschool and have fully developed sense of empathy by middle to high school, you had some serious developmental issues or were raised in a bad environment.
That doesn’t mean middle and high school kids can’t be mean. That cruelty can’t be excused by undeveloped empathy. In fact, they most certainly know how the person feels and are intentionally making them feel bad.
Those are not facts, but complete bullshit, and I think you know that. Unless you’re citing sociology of course where everything is facts if you feel like it is.
I honestly haven’t seen evidence of that, most of them certainly learn that the behaviour is looked down upon and may feel guilt over it, that isn’t the same thing as growing out of it. There’s a very large number of people whose morality is oriented around whether or not they’re caught, not honest, vulnerable interrogation of themselves and committing to change.
You’re talking to at least two former edgelords and the one typing now did a complete 180 at 18.
I was a weird kid in the 90s in a predominantly white/Catholic town where bigotry was the norm. I wasn’t into the god stuff which made me an outcast in my community and home life wasn’t very welcoming, either. I had unfiltered internet access and found a community who accepted me. And having no one to tell my otherwise, I thought their behavior was fine.
Ironically, that same lack of parental oversight saved my life because I decided to go to art school.
First time meeting a black person. Wow, they’re just like me. First time hanging out with gay people. Wow, they’re not trying to fuck me? Freshman year, I learned that everything I knew was wrong. And now I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m on an antifa watch list.
So what do you call it when someone learns their opinions are wrong and changes? What is developing emotional maturity through experience if not “growing out of it?”
What a depressing state of mind you must live in to think that people are only capable of changing for the worse.
Oh well, if an anonymous stranger online says that their own personal experience says so 🤷♀️
Again, a lot of you are troubled by the idea that morality isn’t as simple as just not doing the bad thing. I live in a much more optimistic world than the one you just portrayed.
Its obvious when you guys are making excuses for yourselves and passing it off as some act of empathy or understanding. That’s also just false, btw, and I never wanted to hurt vulnerable people even when I was young.
The human brain doesn’t fully develop until the mid twenties, and empathy is one of the last things that fully develops. So the nihilistic online edge lord culture is one you can genuinely age out of.
That’s not true at all. If you didn’t develop empathy in preschool and have fully developed sense of empathy by middle to high school, you had some serious developmental issues or were raised in a bad environment.
That doesn’t mean middle and high school kids can’t be mean. That cruelty can’t be excused by undeveloped empathy. In fact, they most certainly know how the person feels and are intentionally making them feel bad.
I said it doesn’t develop fully until adulthood. Not that it isn’t there at all until then.
And I’m saying it fully develops before adulthood. Usually, somewhere around 12 years old.
Before puberty?
Yeah, and the skills keep developing but by then they should be able to see things from another person’s perspective.
Those are not facts, but complete bullshit, and I think you know that. Unless you’re citing sociology of course where everything is facts if you feel like it is.
Both of those things are wrong. You should look up what the actual study on brain maturity concluded instead of regurgitating factoids online.
The factoids might be wrong but the conclusion isn’t. Most edgelords age out it
I honestly haven’t seen evidence of that, most of them certainly learn that the behaviour is looked down upon and may feel guilt over it, that isn’t the same thing as growing out of it. There’s a very large number of people whose morality is oriented around whether or not they’re caught, not honest, vulnerable interrogation of themselves and committing to change.
You’re talking to at least two former edgelords and the one typing now did a complete 180 at 18.
I was a weird kid in the 90s in a predominantly white/Catholic town where bigotry was the norm. I wasn’t into the god stuff which made me an outcast in my community and home life wasn’t very welcoming, either. I had unfiltered internet access and found a community who accepted me. And having no one to tell my otherwise, I thought their behavior was fine.
Ironically, that same lack of parental oversight saved my life because I decided to go to art school.
First time meeting a black person. Wow, they’re just like me. First time hanging out with gay people. Wow, they’re not trying to fuck me? Freshman year, I learned that everything I knew was wrong. And now I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m on an antifa watch list.
So what do you call it when someone learns their opinions are wrong and changes? What is developing emotional maturity through experience if not “growing out of it?”
What a depressing state of mind you must live in to think that people are only capable of changing for the worse.
Oh well, if an anonymous stranger online says that their own personal experience says so 🤷♀️
Again, a lot of you are troubled by the idea that morality isn’t as simple as just not doing the bad thing. I live in a much more optimistic world than the one you just portrayed.
Its obvious when you guys are making excuses for yourselves and passing it off as some act of empathy or understanding. That’s also just false, btw, and I never wanted to hurt vulnerable people even when I was young.
You’re really interesting.
I know.
It can develop earlier if you guide them
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I hear you but for me in my early 20s I was on IRC getting drunk and high trying to bang chicks. When did we lose the plot? Lol