Nothing in that headline is exaggerated or sensationalized. It’s 100% factual.

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    For a supposed genius, I do get the impression this oligarch keeps taking many corrective measures for his own actions.

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      To be fair, very smart people can say very dumb things outside their areas of expertise.

      Also to be fair, Musk isn’t one of those people.

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      I have not seen a single indication of genius by Musk. I see a spoiled trust fund man-child in the right place at the right time and who frequently pays other people to come up for ideas for him. I can literally think of dozens of people I’ve known over the years who are far more intelligent and would do much more with his starter funds from daddy.

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        I’ve been in meetings with him when he was still active at SpaceX and before he truly dove off the deep end. I had direct conversations with him telling him his engineers were wrong about something. He was quite intelligent and knew his shit. He was arrogant and a dick, but it was obvious he knew a LOT about the rockets he was building. He wasn’t doing the engineering, but he definitely understood the work going on.

        Now, though, the dude is a fucking lunatic. I don’t know if he just started taking too many drugs or if the billions of dollars made something break in his mind or what, but he was not like this back then.

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          No, he didn’t. He has no knowledge of rockets outside of Wikipedia. He has no knowledge of engineering outside of some shit science show.

          I have worked with engineers who worked with him at Tesla and they say he is a functional idiot, borderline mentally defective. He will go into meeting and act like he understand magnetism and everyone has to sit there awkwardly listening for an hour about him rambling on like a moronic 6th grader until he leaves.

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            Yeah, you’re right, what was I thinking? Your second-hand knowledge is totally more accurate than my firsthand knowledge. I definitely didn’t have technical conversations with him about propellant margins due to boil-off during coast. I absolutely wasn’t there when he agilely and correctly answered a barrage of technical questions from a 3-star General.

            I’m not saying he is all-knowing and all-powerful. I don’t doubt he is so arrogant that he would ramble on about something he doesn’t understand… especially magnetism, since I never understood that shit even after years of physics classes during college. But just because he is an idiot about the deep physics behind how electric cars run doesn’t mean he is stupid about all things.

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        I am sure I am not the only one who thinks a large amount of his success stems from Peter Thiel wanting to fuck him. And possibly actually fucking him.

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          Musk came in as “the money guy” to PayPal before Theil was rich. It’s why he was CEO for 6 months, but everyone hated him as a leader so much they fired him.

          They all got really, really rich together, and the Elon risked it all on Tesla and survived via government handouts for a decade.

          Easy to take big risks when you know you can pop back to dads emerald mine for a fill up at any point.

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        For someone who likes to think of himself as a modern Nikola Tesla, he acts much more like Edison.

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      I work with rich ego maniacs like him. Mistakes that he does means nothing to his ego. Mistakes that others make are personal attacks.

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    It’s unknown why exactly Musk chose to delete the tweet but it may have had something to do with the discovery that Cooper has a habit of siding with Adolf Hitler on a number of issues.

    That doesn’t sound plausible, Musk frequently sides with Hitler too, so why should that be a problem?

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      He’s got to keep that plausible deniability smokescreen up… for now. I’m sure he’ll go openly pro-Hitler at some point though.

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      So when I see this headline I thought:

      “Does this mean there is a line for him that he wouldn’t cross or was this done to avoid bad optics”

      Given the backlash we are seeing for the Tucker Carlson thing, it’s probably the ladder.

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      Only if you make it clear that the guy is at the very least a Nazi sympathizer. Unfortunately there are a lot of people who would assume you were being pro Musk and pro Carlson if you just posted the image without explanation.

      Plus you’re just giving the site activity. Deleting your account would be a much better statement.

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      “Trying to understand WWII” is forbidden apparently.

      I guess that would make me respect my history teach more for getting me to understand WWII

      Historians, the biggest rebels.

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        Every other documentary out there is about WWII because there is a vast amount of public domain footage and a vast amount of documentation to draw from. I think we try to understand WWII more than anything else out there that ever happened just thanks to the media making endless cheap WWII documentaries.

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        Yeah, my first thought would be, “could you be more specific?” because there’s so many facets to it.

        IMO a good one to understand is “How did a major war against a collection of fascist states result in communism being considered the big enemy?”

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    Is Elon playing some clever 5D chess that I don’t understand? Why is he doing things like this, how is it benefiting him? Has he lost his fucking mind?

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      He really went off the deep end when Grimes dumped him. I’m not saying he didn’t have issues before, but his compete public persona changed when their relationship ended. When his relationship with Amber Herd ended her did an interview with Rolling Stone where he was crying and talking about how life just isn’t worth doing anything of you aren’t in love. I think he really thought that with Grimes he found his true soulmate. My guess is that once she became a mother she realized that he isn’t someone she wants raising her children and she broke his heart and he’s gone full incel now.

      One day she will be free of him and she’s going to tell her story. I can’t wait to hear it.

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        I don’t know if it coincides with grimes, but his daughter disowning him and him blaming the woke school system for turning her against him is also where the anti work crusade started, which don’t ya know, brings you down the far right rabbit hole into psycho land.

        Edit: whatever his views were before this event, that was a defining moment where he had to make a real choice, and he made the wrong one.

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          He faced a lot of abandonment in a short time period and instead of self reflecting lashed out. And when an angry white man lashes out against other people for self preserving, there’s a chunk of the internet there to help guide him away from ever getting better

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        Remember those creepy, desperate Tweets from Grimes to Musk about seeing the kids or whatever? God. Imagine literally the richest person in the world is also your incel ex.

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        It’s more likely that when she had his children, Elon felt like he had total control over her and could ramp up his abuse of her. This is a classic maneuver by abusive men. Marriage and moving in together also tend to cause them to lash out, but having a baby usually really does it for them because the woman is often physically weakened by it. This includes raping the woman after she gave birth and isn’t healed.

        Once the abuse escalates, the woman is able to realize he wasn’t going to change and that he’d get worse. She is able to realize it’s too much. Someone like Grimes with money and power can escape more easily once they realize this.

        So yeah it’s less to do with Grimes becoming a mother and realizing he wasn’t good enough (implying his behavior has been steady/the same), and more like him trapping her and taking off his mask.

        Men like Elon - narcissistic and obsessed with women, especially trans women - have a compulsion to control women like dolls.

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        I think he’s so focused on “success” he’s never grown as a person beyond, I’m Bestest because I can buy the biggest things…and just uses people.

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        The trust fund baby concubine of a billionaire isn’t the hero of the story.

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          Who the fuck said it was about being a hero? You ain’t gotta think she’s had the hard proletariat steel worker rice farmer barista life to have a shred of empathy for this particular situation. Your empathy isn’t a finite resource, only to be delt out on a truly justified occasion after considering the class of the people involved. Rich or poor, having a child with elon musk probably sucks so much ass. Can’t we just agree on that rather than punching air? Or did you walk up hill both ways to your job at the business factory too many times to care about the humanity of someone with one too many zeros in their bank.

          I say this as an eat the rich, burn them down kinda motherfucker. Don’t lose your humanity.

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            Your empathy isn’t a finite resource, only to be delt out on a truly justified occasion

            Yes it is.

            having a child with elon musk probably sucks so much ass.

            Idk he doesn’t seem to be around much and he can definitely afford to pay for childcare. Regardless, it’s weird to infantalize her, she’s a grown woman with full agency who decided to have a baby with Elon Musk. He already had 10 with 10 different women, she wasn’t tricked into anything.

            I say this as an eat the rich, burn them down kinda motherfucker

            That’s hilarious cause you’re defending one with a track record of being a vapid cunt.

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              Compassion fatigue is for teachers n shit. Not feeling bad that a person you don’t know dated a shitty person and feeling bad for them. Christ, you really think that amounts to the shit firefighters have to deal with?

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                I don’t have the time or inclination to care about a trust fund kid playing “radical lefty artist” who tried to have a baby by the worlds richest man and succeeded, why would I? I have actual things in my life. It’s some Real Housewives of Techbros shit, I don’t care about who said what or why. They’re bad people and the world would likely be better off without them.

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                  Ain’t got time to care but plenty of time to bitch. C’mon bruv. Just say you hate them actively. That’s okay. Your allowed. But don’t act like you ain’t got the time when your sitting here arguing about how much time you don’t have.

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            She’s a born rich wastrel who used her resources to become a self-proclaimed “Art Angel” who then met Musk on Twitter and then hooked up with him to have a baby. It wasn’t a romantic love story.

            I don’t have an ounce of sympathy for her. The only one to feel sorry for is their poor dysfunctional kid.

            tl;dr exactly, I work way too hard at the business factory to give a single fuck about two rich kids who think I was born to a lesser class than them. Get some solidarity starfucker.

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              Wow. You know a lot about how Grimes feels about people poorer than her.

              Which is weird, because it’s not a topic I’ve ever heard her talk about.

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                Hi I’m home now.

                on elon being a cunt:

                I don’t want to talk about this too much. But take the trans thing. After that, we had a big, long conversation. I was like, “I want to dissect why you’re so stressed about this.” Getting to the heart of what Elon says helps me get to the heart of what other people’s issues are, because it’s this über guy situation. And it came down to pretty much every way that you transition can cause fertility issues. I was like, OK, you don’t hate trans people, you hate woke culture. I get that it can be annoying, and you have concerns about the fertility thing.

                on “white culture”

                I’m called a Nazi because I happily am proud of white culture. But every day I think fondly of the brown king Cyrus the Great who invented the first ever empire, and the Japanese icon Muraski Shikibu who wrote the first novel ever. What if humans just loved each other?

                she’s so pro union too!

                he has never prevented them from unionizing it’s quite literally fake news. trust me i’ve investigated this heavily and even visited factories etc. i have the receipts but since it effects others i’ll wait til i ama w imminent new music b4 i answer more queries.

                You should actually listen to some interviews with her, she’s just another spoiled rich kid that knows fuckall about anything.

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                I was a fan once upon a time. You should watch some old interviews with her, she’s not a nice person.

                edit: Just saw who the commenter was. Go away I have better things to do today than argue about whatever nitpicky sentence you’re going to doubledown on and argue for 30 comments.

                edit edit: ya’ll would probably defend marie Antoinette as she was led up the gallows

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      No. He’s stupid. Never had a functioning mind, he’s been substituting money for one all along.

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      Hes a shitty racist that is extremely high at all times.

      Imagine your meth’ed out rural cousins, but 200 million people/bots follow them on twitter for some reason.

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      Everyone replying to you is saying he is essentially a troll but imo it’s him affirming a narrative that benefits him.

      He was born rich and then became a billionaire (and still would claim being self made). He truly believes some people are born better. That’s actually a core tenant of conservative ideology and the justification for social hierarchy that they support.

      When you believe some people are born better, and that the market decides who has what it takes, then minorities over represented in poverty must mean that some races are born better/worse.

      It’s basically social Darwinism and it benefits him if people believe that rich and successful people are better and thereby should be rewarded with more power. That is the benefit, the racism just part of the package deal.

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        That’s actually a core tenant tenet of conservative ideology

        It’s basically social Darwinism; it benefits him if people believe that rich and successful people are better and thereby should be rewarded with more power.

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      He’s a 4-chan troll that gained enough wealth from his parents that he can now actually believe and preach the things he used to read on those forums and not only barely see consequence, but actually ignite passions and movements in the world’s most ignorant and mentally challenged chuds.

      We have to stop wondering what his “plans” are because he has none, he is just a stupid man, like so many others, and yet commands legions of devoted followers because our species is fucking stupid.

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      He’s pandering to his right wing sycophants and pushing the boundaries of free speech on his platform so that when he inevitably faces consequences, he can immediately play the victim and say “see, I told you this is what the left would do!”

      Normally I’d say don’t give him the attention, but he’s a Nazi sympathizer, and those motherfuckers deserve condemnation.

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    “Elon musk deleted” or “the last standing PR guy for Elon musk persuaded him to delete”?

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      We should probably just wait a few hours, maybe that person is about to get fired for going against musks free speech absolutism and the tweet gets restored

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    Tucker loves Nazis, and Putin, (authoritarianism, same boat) a d Elon wants in on that nonsense??

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      Elon loves Hitler-stans. He cannot love Hitler directly so he chose a Hitler-stan in order to enjoy Hitler by proxy.

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    Believing that someone like Elon Musk, that is probably counseled by some of the best minds of the Earth (even if they’re turned the wrong direction), is doing this out of stupidity isn’t good. This is politically and economically fueled.

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      The problem is that “someone like Elon Musk” is a billionaire insulated from virtually every bad decision he could ever make, therefore he doesn’t need any counsel other than “this lawsuit could cost you money if you do (thing).

      He’s almost worth $200Bn, and even is someone sued and won for half his entire worth, he’d still have more money and power than 99.999% of the rest of the entire planet.

      He is exactly the someone he wants to be, he can be as stupid as he wants as long as he doesn’t think his actual worth or power is truly threatened.