You know a liberal content creator is scratched when they roll out the heavy hitting arguments like “you are ugly” and “i am wealthier and more successful than you”. Patrick Bateman level shit lol.
He’s going 
and arguing with randos telling them to unsub lol.
I hope for his sake unc is drunk or some shit. Genuinely quite embarrassing, rather than just taking the criticism that basically boils down to “maybe you shouldn’t be centring jewish feelings as israel commits a genocide in their name” on board.
I always knew he was just a lib breadtuber, but I had enjoyed some of his hip hop videos. You’d think of all people he would realise he’s acting like the Drake in this situation rn.
He’s still posting through it after 2 hours. Now he seems to be attempting to pull it back and have “good faith discussions” with people in the comment section of a youtube video. Bruh.
Isn’t it kind of weird that Badempanada has no allies? He has no political party. He never collaborates with other people. I’d have a hard time believing he has any friends.
Look at the Cuba trip he did last month. He went to Cuba because he was jealous of the Neustra America Convoy. He brought no aid to Cuba and then he payed random people with paper money to be in his video. He talked shit about the Neustra America Convoy which delivered 20 tons of aid: food, medicine, and solar panels to Cuba. Then he went to Cuba and brought nothing with him except paper money. The Neustra America Convoy met with Cuban Government officials. The Neustra America Convoy had 600 people delivering aid to Cuba. Bad Empanada proudly declared that he went completely alone.
There seems to be like a misconception that in order to be a real leftist, you have to be a social pariah because in western-aligned countries socialism was the big bad. The implication becomes that if someone calls themselves socialist but is popular, liked, attractive, etc; then they must be fake socialist. Bad Empanada uses this as the sole metric for his political ideology. He’s not in any organization. He doesn’t do any activism. He doesn’t participate in labor action. He’s not even particularly principled in his beliefs. He often has controversial takes that misalign from any existing socialist political theory. His only political conviction is being a nuisance. Bad Empanada and his fans believe that he’s a leftist because he’s completely intolerable to be around.
Isn’t it kind of weird that Badempanada has no allies? He has no political party. He never collaborates with other people. I’d have a hard time believing he has any friends.
Such is the life of an ultra
Having friends is revisionism.
I’m of three minds about this.
- BE seems completely unlikable as a person.
- Even before personality, he’s pretty geographically isolated from other creators.
- Personally, I feel like I’d be really isolated if I were a YouTube creator too. Like what, am I supposed to just hit up HBomb or somebody in YouTube DMs and be like “hey let me in to the secret breadtube discord chat”?
well if we’re not getting into the facts of who’s making a principled point (i’m not going to look at any of this source content myself, i don’t have a dog in this fight, it’s slop) and we’re sticking to the behavior of online video essayists, i’m still inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the well-meaning black unc who gets a little lib sometimes over an australian expat ultra living under milei who spends his time being a transphobic ultra on english-language nazi twitter (which is to say, twitter). which is to say, i don’t think you gotta hand it to bad empanada ever, even when unc is embarrassing himself a bit.
Correct take.
BadEmpanada is a transphobe who had a recent video about contrapoints in which he referred to her as by correct pronouns the entire time and never even mentioned her being trans? I’m gonna need some receipts on that tbh, I never go on twitter.
RedWizard’s comments in this chain, especially the doubling down on it. transphobia isn’t just ben shapiro struggling to use incorrect pronouns on purpose.
you are straight up one of the crypto transphobes operating on here man seriously get a life
Oh look, one of our resident transmisogynists is openly defending a fellow transphobe.
He’s right about BE just being some attack dog that exploits how the internet left works to make a living right now. You’ll notice how careful BE is to not reveal much about himself and his actual politics because he likely doesn’t really have any. He doesn’t seem to be a part of any party and outside of his Cuba trip he doesn’t seem to have done much. He says as much too in his streams. BE can make some good points sometimes but he’s not anyone to be respected. F. D. Libifier is just an annoying radlib though, basically doing the same thing as BE but in a non-negative way. Literally could not care what idpol-soaked opinions he has on a 3-year-old anime more than BE’s opinions on China, COVID, marxist economics, etc.
Also, BE uses Adblock Plus and not Ublock Origin.
Unforgivable.
good lord
You’ll notice how careful BE is to not reveal much about himself and his actual politics because he likely doesn’t really have any.
This reminds of this YouTuber 1dime. I really got a bad vibe from this YouTuber but there was never any proof until way later because the guy just didn’t commit to any political position. I dunno if BE is as bad as 1dime but people that vaguely point towards leftist ideals are usually sus
As for FD signifier, I really like his videos but no question hes fallen hook line and sinker for the antisemitism crisis nonsense that acts as cover for pissraels genocidal actions. I hope he and many other rectify that position. Because I hate to break to Mr FD but cry all you want about non existent antisemitism crisis, but the zios will never be your friend. And the majority of Jews supporting Zionism is not the problem of people that are against genocide and if you’re against genocide there is no reason make it your problem
He’s a Nebulite, I think every creator there is contractually obliged to be “neutral” on Palestine
Yeah it seems being a zio is in the nebula lore.
he also (allegedly) was doxed and had issues with people coming after him locally. I don’t begrudge anyone not being open about all that shit on the internet, that’s just basic safety.
the only thing i can muster up here is “cool story, nerds”
don’t care too much about FD, but communicating at all with BE at this point when he’s now fully consumed with “I am the best leftist alive and all of you are fake leftists who deserve to die, also fuck trans people” as content is basically pointless.
call me lib if you want, but I haven’t seen any actual analysis out of him recently and I no longer care to check. if he moves away from just being a dramaslopper, let me know
if he moves away from just being a dramaslopper, let me know
He was always a dramaslopper who accidentally made a good point on occasion, the slop is his passion, he’ll never stop doing it, even after he becomes a “why I left the left” CHUD grifter.
i swear at one point he did some historical analysis, but i simply don’t care anymore because he clearly doesn’t
he did, he has some good old videos showing up some lib who didn’t think Columbus was that bad, explaining Peronism isn’t a coherent thing because disparate parties try to claim legitimacy through it, etc.
anyway FD should hit him in the transphobia doubledown.
also fuck trans people
When did he say this?
if he moves away from just being a dramaslopper, let me know
Like a month ago he went and interviewed random homeless people on the streets of cuba about what’s happening over there and how it affects their lives lol. He’s hardly gonna change the world but that is bit more journalistic effort than “dramaslop”, and sure as hell more than sitting on stream talking about rap beefs or zootopia lol.
Does BE think there are no trans people in the global south or something
The most generous reading of his take is that he believes that while transness is real, he believes there is a significant amount of people who claim to be trans solely to win internet arguments.
Even that would be transphobic as hell. Painting trans identities as faked is a core part of transphobia. There is no way around this, BE is a fucking transphobe.
Im not defending that kind of statement, mind. I am merely stating that this would be the least messed up interpretation of what he said. It is still obviously transphobic to say that those who disagree with him are trans for the clout
Yeah, i get that, i’m just clarifying what the problem is.
He crashed out the other week on a queer content creator. But ngl they were insufferable and a bad representation of queer leftists in the west. They said BE and some other creators had “colonizer accents” while that mf is american.
I think a lot of people in America, not just queer people, people of every marginalized group, forget just how much privilege they have, and the more liberal ones will center their struggle over everything else.
Queer liberals do it with pinkwashing, black liberals do it with movements like For Us By Us that don’t critique the system itself, they just want to be a part of the in group. Even as an Arab, I’ve lost a lot of Arab friends as I’ve became more and more disgusted with the world. We have Arabs still to this day working for companies like Lockheed Martin because they believe they can change things from the inside, or they’ll be in a position of power to avoid work with “israel” like that’s the only thing that matters.
they were insufferable and a bad representation
A trans person not living up to somebody’s standards of respectability doesn’t give people a license to be transphobic.
Yes, sorry if you implied it differently. Handpicking the worst of a group is bad faith
Thanks, it’s appreciated.
man and to think the frase “dont feed the trolls” used to be popular like 2 decades ago, now people think they must respond to every comment and video that criticise them
I think it’s because “feeding the trolls” in the 2000s meant arguing in comment sections or some Facebook page with zero benefit and almost no audience. Now that it’s monetized and part of the spectacle, people can keep pulling the slot lever (Post button) hopping their opponent slips up and they can clip/screenshot it and go “See?! I told you he was ______” and try to leverage that into more internet fame.
Even if they don’t slip up, simply going to their page, watching the video, dropping a bunch of comments, all that makes the algorithm go “mmm yes much engagement push this content creator higher in the feed.” It’s why I just avoid reactionary content pages/channels, besides not giving me agita I know me going there and arguing with them just rewards them, regardless of how wrong they are.
I see almost nothing wrong with FDS comments here. Is it defensive? Sure. I have zero context for what inspired his response but everything except the bit about vaush being charismatic (which is subjective) is correct about BE.
i actually don’t know if it’s wrong to say that vaush is more charismatic than BE which is the take at hand.
is not charismatic on an absolute scale, but relative to empanada…
Exactly. There is nothing charismatic about BE even before he had his reactionary crashouts he was abrasive as fuck even when he was saying correct things.
I mean, FDS is apparently crashing out because he said “antizionist is an antisemitic dognwhistle” and BE called him out on it. So much as I hate BE, he’s objectively in the right here.
Ah god dammit. He is the last left lib I would expect to fall for that shit.
FD made a video about how people had to vote for Kamala and ignore the Palestine stuff. He’s been on a “she lost because of racism/misogony” trip once in a while since then
Literally BE is more of a broken clock as I see him anyways
I like FD’s media analysis but this is yet another in a long list of examples of his politics being dogshit libbery coated in black panther language. I stg Kamala hadn’t even finished saying “congratulations to my opponent” when dude had done a 180° turn on his analysis and was already blaming her loss on racism first and foremost.
Not that BE ain’t the most insufferable mf on that side of YouTube, mind you, but the messenger being an idiot doesn’t make the message wrong in and of itself.
Online arguments are a goddamn joke.
Two people falling all over themselves to tell the other how they are somehow more correct. It doesn’t matter who is right and who isnt, and it probably never has mattered.
Nuh-uh, I’m right.
No, you’re wrong and I’m right.It’s the same reason so-called political “debates” are nonsense. It’s all spectacle with no substance
Yeah but in the case of debates at least it can be used as a tool for propaganda and for demoralizing. I know these debates from the global north are 9/10 times just shit, but here in Brasil they have been instrumental in elevating Marxist content creators out of obscurity and in spreading Marxism a bit.
The reason I myself became a communist is because of a drunk discussion I had with a friend where I was doubting if socialism is as bad as people say and that led me into hyper focusing in watching Marxist content creators, one of the first videos I saw was a legendary debate that happened a couple months prior to that time where Elias Jabbour (professor, PCdoB member and China defender) absolutely destroyed a lib economist and coach called Renata Barreto. At first I was doubting what he was saying even tho it was clear to me and everyone else he won that debate, but it served as a gateway into having me want to learn more, and as I learned more and more, I came to realize he was basically right in nearly everything he said.
After that a bunch of Marxist content creators started debating and going as guests to all kinds of podcasts, even right wing ones and that has had an observable impact on their growth and the acceptance of Marxism here, even if it’s nothing considered big enough.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
“I know your hope is engagement, but it’s not happening.” —The person currently engaging.
Hilarious stuff
I need people I like to stop posting like this. You can simply not respond
Sad to admit I used to crash out like this, it’s super embarrassing and no matter what you do you can’t dig yourself out of the hole you dug. I know his chest was tight when he was writing all this, probably didn’t even sleep at night.
Yea I saw that BE video about FD. BA is the definition of “youre not wrong, youre just an asshole.” In this case, he took a part of a stream on an clip channel and blew it out of proportion, acting like this antisemitism analysis in a kid’s movie was some major sleight and offense. I watched the original clip from FD, he came across like he was half joking and just having fun analyzing a movie more deeply than it needs to be. I mean is BE right that there are more important things to talk about visa vie jeaduism/israel/palestine than possible antisemetic undertones in a kids movie? Yea sure, but also like who cares man.
That being said, FD responding to this at all is super cringe. Cmon man dont feed the troll.
What kids movie? I’m curious
FD was talking on stream about how the Lynx characters in Zootopia 2 are antisemitic tropes in the clips.
Were they? I couldn’t finish Zootopia 2, it was awful
Do you look at a rich family stealing land from an indigenous population as a stand in for zionism, and would portraying that constitute antisemitism? If yes on both then yes.
Okay, I went and found the clip and FD’s comments and yeah, no idea what he’s on about. They’re literally “fat cats.” I dont see any antisemitic tropes on em whatsoever. FD’s out on a limb with this one
TIL all Norwegians are Jewish
More important things like calling out your colleagues for the unimportant things they are doing.
I used to be a subscriber to F.D. Signifier for his hip hop commentary videos. (I’m not American so i don’t know much about hip hop culture aside from the 80’s and 90’s) But i unsubscribed a couple of years ago because he started repeating that breadtube mantra to his chat of “why are all of you so hung up on Israel and Palestine?”
This tendency of dying on the hill of zionism got so wide spread among the old breadtube guard It makes me wonder if these guys got coopted by some israel propaganda money or something.
I also remember him saying something along the lines of “If you like china so much go live there!” that one aged well!
But i unsubscribed a couple of years ago because he started repeating that breadtube mantra to his chat of “why are all of you so hung up on Israel and Palestine?”
he seems to genuinely have not known what was up and he’s been better after learning.
I’m really glad to hear he was not acting on bad faith; as someone who never was very up to date with american politics before 2016; the Biden years were one hell of a whiplash with people getting very “libbed up” all uf the sudden, but i guess it was also an artifact of the place and time.
He posts content on Nebula, and one of the co-founders told them explicitly to be neutral on the issue
:i-aint-gonna-read-all-that:
This is so pointless
