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Keld [he/him, any]

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  • Again I don't think its confirmed by anything canon one way or another

    Again. We have the statements of the man himself, his followers and his formers followers, and the themes of the narrative presented this far on one side and... "Nothing says it isn't true" on the other.

    If Edward Sallow doesn't believe and Graham knows then the entire legion is just a prank and Grahame critiques aren't sober considerations bought on in the wake of his experiences Spoken as he attempts to atone through flawed means but him talking about that time he pulled an epic prank. Graham isn't a man who after his very lowest point reconsidered everything he was to return to the faith of his youth tainted by the horrors he perpetrated, but a dick who did a prank and is doing another one.

    The people speaking of the ways tbe horrors of the legion have impacted them as if they were a favor aren't sober and horrifying critiques of cultural imperialism and a reframing of "They plunder, they slaughter, and they steal: this they falsely name Empire, and where they make a wasteland, they call it peace." In the context of fallout but just an unfunny joke.

    It renders the point of legion characters nothing, it isn't supported textually and it doesnt add anything. It just seems like you dont like the legion and therefore they must be illegitimate. Which Imo is a less scathing critique than if they are legitimate.

    But imo his past as a member of a far-left mutual aid org and very deliberate choice to use the Roman Empire as inspiration for a culture which could be a far stronger military force, and far crueller culture than the former Arizona tribals were, leading directly to his own personal enrichment points more to a self-aware and cynical interpretation of his motavations

    This renders his appeals to actual legitimate (or at least legitimate as far as the writers were concerned) philosophy entirely meaningless. The scene where you meet the leaders of the raiding faction behind the most horrifying things you have seen and he starts quoting hegel and genuinely arguing his case becomes a farce and meaningless. If he didn't belive, why would he need to justify it to an outsider?

    He's mussolini, he's all the national syndicalist who historically decided to adopt far right ideologies rooted in their former leftist frameworks. Or... he's just doing a prank.

  • If it was never actually epic, it wouldn't be as "funny" the times it cuts to someone sharting.

  • We know what he says though, and he always speaks about his lasting legacy and the potential for the legion to last. The idea that he would believe the legion would die with him is totally incongruent with his characterisation and lessens the impact of the criticism levied by his former partner. If he is fully aware that this is a doomed project he just did for the lulz, then Graham seeing the legion as such is less meaningful.

    What I say is supported by the text of Edward Sallow's dialogue. You're assuming that he truly believes what his critics say, which doesn't really fit with a guy doing an unironic rome cosplay.

    And we don't really get any inner monologue details from him so saying he genuinely believes those things rather than using them as propaganda and being primarily motivated by self enrichment and power hunger

    If he's just a con-man and nobody believes in this project, then the tragedy of the horror stories of the true believers in the legion cause cease to be impact. The praetorian guard who speaks of his cultural legacy being annihilated and his family being erased and spread to the winds ceases being a tragic story of the nature of imperalism and becomes a comical (but not actually funny) story about a con man, and the guy who briefly has to abandon the tough guy act to weep for the story of what the legion did to his entire way of being ceases to be meaningful. It also reduces the impact of you going all the way through the story seeing the horrors of the legion before finally facing someone who genuinely argues for the necessity of the legion using what the writers thought was genuine philosophically sound arguments.

    If Edward Sallow doesn't believe what he says, then he isn't nearly as interesting.

  • You guys are cool and I'm sorry for whatever trouble is ailing you at the moment. I hope you have a great week, I'm not going to be here much for much of it but I want you to know that I am rooting for everything to go your way.

  • The presidential doomsday bunker in Fallout is an oil rig in the pacific.

  • Caesar's note was very true to his characterisation in the game I feel. Looking forward to seeing for the Culkmiseter next season, the 'Caesar's palace' joke was good

    No it isn't. It's the opposite of what Caesar stands for. It is making an outside criticism of the legion into a literal thing and by doing so missing both the point of Edward Sallow and the legion. And in doing so it minimises the impact of the legion as a vehicle for criticism and their effectiveness as villains. Edward Sallow does not see the legion as a vanity project that will die with him, he sees himself as building a genuine legacy that will last the same way Rome did, he is not just trolling. He and the people around him genuinely think they are doing people a favor when they invade a people's land, slaughter their men, burn their livestocks, and take their women as slaves.

    The fact that he is the only one who sees the project as becoming a beacon of enlightenment and civilisation is a whole thing. Not even the true believers in the cause of the legion believe in it the way he does. He believes that the conquest of vegas will allow them to transition into becoming the toga wearing kind of romans, a genuine civilising force of the wasteland built up around a totalitarian and powerful centralised state, the people around him believe that the legion as it is is the ideal in stark contrast which means that his dream of a legacy cannot exist, hence the relevance of the whole brain cancer narrative.

  • Movies & TV @hexbear.net

    In 4 episodes A Knight of The Seven Kingdoms has two moments where something "epic" happens you have swelling music and then it cuts immediately to someone shitting/farting

  • I used to be 'with it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary to me

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    Curtains for Zoosha? K-smog and Batboy caught flipping a grunt

  • I helped a former fling move in with his boyfriend recently. I don't know your ex, but some people are just very friendly with exes or want to be at the very least.

  • Do you guys think dental students joke about having oral exams

  • Edit: Wait no, it stops at the German border

  • oh this is cool as fuck.

  • Ok but that toddler has more drip than all of you and you're just jealous

  • Edit: I thought you said social democrat. Lol lmao

  • No he just genuinely could get away with this kind of shit before the UK press decided he couldn't any longer.

  • At least Kautsky still believed in the communist project. Like it's genuinely sad how far Social Democrats have fallen. Incidentally that was what Lenin predicted.

  • But China is the #2 mining country (I think), even when producing bullshit you still have to outsource it to China.

  • It's an oral exam

  • Maybe lurking is against the rules

  • Chapotraphouse @hexbear.net

    America has five year olds being frogmarched to a detention camp on the orders of a known pedophile and habitual fraudster who shits his pants in public

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    don't do the guy if you can't do the ti(m)e

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    Yuri Gargarin was a test pilot, went to space, and his visible scar was from diving out a window while cheating on his wife.

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    Be gay do time

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    Korean remake of the Breaking Bad franchise called Better Call Seoul.

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    Posting bad or badly posting?

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    Take me down to parallax city where the far moves slow and the near moves quickly

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    🎶H-I-M-B-O H-I-M-B-O H-I-M-B-O and Himbo was his name-o 🎶

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    Does Donald J. Trump know how to spell his own name?

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    If "c"s making "k" sounds are turned into KKK in Maoist standard English, wouldn't it be Kkkrakkkkkker?

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    Given the backlash one would think #MeToo had a body count. Which incidentally it should have had.

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    Bit idea: Making up outrageous lies about the cast of Stranger Things and when called out saying "Why not? Stranger Things have happened"

  • Slop. @hexbear.net

    Cultural appropriation

  • traingang @hexbear.net

    Tough but fair.

  • Cute @hexbear.net

    Boar

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    I think its important information that the base roman currency was asses.

  • Chapotraphouse @hexbear.net

    "Universities are communist indoctrination centers." Okay but my university book store stocks books about how islam is undermining the west next to books about confucianism.

  • Slop. @hexbear.net

    Does this go here or c/electoralism