Didn’t notice the OpenOffice and was extremely confused to see LibreOffice saying to ditch LibreOffice for LibreOffice
Its a shame, I used to love OpenOffice and used it a lot. That was years ago. Now I use LibreOffice solely for Excel or else my resumes. Book writing I use novelWriter; notes I use Obsidian. What can I say, I love my markdown editors. I’m currently setting up Neovim to handle all my MD writing needs, though. I’m happy with my MD editors, but it gives me something to do and I like the idea of having one application handle it all.
I love MD editors too, but I find it very hard to collaborate with others on writing because I don’t see any coworking tools for it, and it’s also difficult to convince coworkers to switch from word.
This is very true, but iirc Obsidian has a community plugin that solves this. Just checked and its called Relay and even has offline editing. Not sure how its set up, because I know that Obsidian sync is a paid service.
I’d love to move off of Obsidian to a MD editor that’s completely open source, but I’ve tried them all and nothing tickles my fancy. I just love the plugin community for Obsidian. But that’s why I’m working on Neovim, because the plugin community there is HUGE.
Curious, I checked for Neovim collaboration solutions and found this.
Can they just refactor LO, for it to have a small core with a bunch of plugins, and with branding resembling Sun time OO in style, so that it’d run fast and attract those lost souls?
Let’s just call it The Office
Is this OOO from back in the early 2000s?
Yes and no?
Stuff happened in the early 10’s, and the community forked LibreOffice which became the spiritual successor to OOO, while the OO trademark got transferred to Apache.
Brb, forking LibreOffice into a new spinoff
Officeoffice
If I ever recommended openoffice it was just because I confused the names of the two products.
My dad uses LibreOffice for years, still call it OpenOffice 😂.
I… I was today years old.
I honestly thought LibreOffice was some rebranded name. It’s been a while since I’ve used any of them.
So many programs use those prefixes in Linux so it just gets confusing
Tbh I get them mixed up every time I talk about them. I don’t know what’s installed on my computers and I will most likely get them mixed up again in the future. I look it up every time but also forget it just as often.
I got the same issue with OpenCloud and NextCloud.
Maybe I’m the problem…
But I try
You mean OwnCloud, don’t you?
Soon to be LibreCloud /s
There I go again…
We should start recommending StarOffice! :D
Word Perfect!
Lotus123!
I don’t know what LibreOffice was like when y’all formed your opinions on it 20 years ago, but right now it’s pretty much perfect
It looks the same as it did when I formed my opinion, and I keep checking it out on a yearly basis. I sincerely want to use it, but I get physical discomfort every time I open it. I have put a lot of effort into forcing myself to accept poorly designed foss alternatives but the look and feel of Libreoffice is simply intolerable.
it doesn’t feel that different than Word and Excel, tbh - I don’t know what you’re talking about
I feel like you’re confusing the “look” with “layout”. Colors, margins, element sizes are not properly aligned, and it creates genuine physical discomfort
hm, if it’s not too much to ask, maybe a visual would help? Like, an example where Excel or some other program shows correct layout, and LibreOffice has incorrect?
I haven’t had much discomfort with LibreOffice and I tend to be pretty OCD and I do UI work, so … maybe I’ve just ignored it - would like to learn, though!
I woudnt call a software where its hard to rotate an image “perfect”
LibreOffice is good. Very good even. I just wish Calc always had a 1-to-1 feature parity with Excel for it’s formulas, it would make it so much easier to collaborate on a spreadsheet with others. I think I had to wait a few years on e.g. XLOOKUP.
It’s true, Excel specifically is head and shoulders above anything excel-like.
LO beats it in python support
But people using Python in excel usually make a standalone program that imports the Excel data
I prefer Google Sheets to Excel, but I still use LibreOffice Calc for everything anyway
It is pretty much the same as 20 years ago. That is, good enough for basic use cases but nowhere near as complete as MS Office. It isn’t a serious program for professional use.
For documents I started learning Typst and LaTeX a while ago and now I greatly prefer either of them over LibreOffice. Being able to write comments that don’t render in the PDF is also very useful (i.e. when I do my homework in LaTeX/Typst I’ll put class notes there as well)
Laughing Out Loud at you
Don’t laugh too loud, you’ll make LibreOffice Base crash somehow.
Wouldn’t you like that, professional Word monkey?
It’s not. Installed and tried last month. A bug that’s older that many people here with Fullscreen is still present.
Can you link the bug report please?
I’ve tried writing a resume last month and prepare a presentation (Writer and Impress). And I was very frustrated by crashes and lack of features. The interface is quite good, more intuitive than the MS equivalents.
However, OnlyOffice was really nice to use.
Finally got my partner to use Libreoffice but complain about ui and not having all of the make it pretty options excel has. Losing formatting between the 2 programs was hardest hurdle to get a transition.
Doubt Common folk like me would even notice.
I am still more inclined to follow the “old Linux nerds rulebook” and keep recommending to learn LaTex ;-)
Still the standard for research papers in math/physics/astronomy
this is the way
LyX and LaTeX and you can really impress your lecturer with magnificent postscript documents…at least you could…
I wonder why Apache continues to support OpenOffice. Its barely moved since 2014 and hasn’t even had a security update since 2023. They could archive it as an active project (keep the code available for those who want it) and redirect most users who land on the OpenOffice site to LibreOffice.
If Apache archived all their dead projects, they wouldn’t have any project left.
Tomcat is dead?
I’m not sure you understand the scale
What? If nothing else, Airflow is massively used. Kafka is also quite very popular, I see those two very, very often.
Even good old httpd, while having lost its crown to nginx, is still powers like 1/3 of the web.
News of Apache death seem greatly exaggerated…
There’s a ton more too. It’s quite surprising how many projects that have. Isn’t Cassandra theirs too?
LibreOffice may not be the prettiest or the most stable, but dammit, it gets the job done
LibreOffice’s UI is fine on Linux, on Windows not so much. OnlyOffice is a good alternative for Windows
I think it’s better on Windows. It feels like a good old school Win9x app
Except a lot of casual users won’t touch any software that looks “outdated” from their perspective.
Tried to convince people to use it, and they move to WPS Office or OnlyOffice instead.
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OnlyOffice is good too if you want a more modern interface.
afaik onlyoffice is russian, and has contracts with the russian govt and military
It’s free and open source. Someone could always fork it. I have been using OO.o and LO for years now but lately found that OO is better overall.
russian government and entities closer to it would use MyOffice (МойОфис). But usually russian organizations can choose any foss solution: LibreOffice, OpenOffice and, of course, OnlyOffice.
Fuck
right? :(
is that like onlyfans but like linkedin?
Sure. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Sorry I forget sometimes. It’s just that OpenOffice is a way better name. “Libre” is a pretty uncommon word in English and LibreOffice sounds like astrology software.
Sorry, English is not my 1st language, neither is Spanish (or wherever “libre” came from), but “libreoffice” sounds much better to me.
yeah i agree the name is terrible.
Not if you speak Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, French, or Romanian.
Which combined is more people than just English speakers.
Unfortunately, corporations have bastardized the term “open” (looking at you, OpenAI) trying to get the credit Open Source software has earned.
Libre was a good choice to emphasize “free as in speech”.
IIRC the LibreOffice fork happened years before the public had any awareness of OpenAI (and when OpenAI was, in fact, publishing open models).
I don’t even know if I pronounce it right. Is it like libré or is it more like a lobster-tiger hybrid? Or a Lemur-cobra.hybtid?
Also, if they’re watching, the themes still make the UI all funky unless it’s on the default—at least for Calc, anyway.
I’ve always said “lihb ree” office in my head. (lib as in rib)
Libre will really only ever be a French word to me so that’s how I always thought it would be pronounced. With an Americanish R sound.
Leeb-roffice
librɔfəs / librɑfəs for you IPA enjoyers
Ah, not it’s again!
At risk of going of topic, is this a Millennial meme?
Like, I really hope younger folks have seen this.
I say leeb-ruh, like it’s a Spanish loanword.
Lee-bruh is definitely the way to go since it fluidly connects to the first syllable of “office”. If you do “lib-ray” or “lee-bray”, you’re forcing a ton of unnecessary annunciation on yourself.
Agreed, but sounds too much like “Libra Office” ♎️⚖️
bruh
I’ve always pronounced it lib-ray
Think “Zebra” (NA English) but with an ‘L’.
