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3/4 of volume is taken by wood, what are you, russian logistics officer?
also no way to attach spoon-type igniter, this thing is properly ancient design
want longer range? hear me out:
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I’ve seen the videos of boot instructors being rightfully paranoid that the boots are gonna drop the live grenades during training, I feel like adding these into the mix would straight up give them heart attacks.
yeah, this would end badly. which is why bore-safe 40mm grenades were made (and rifle grenades before that)
Fido, no!
Ye olde grenade yeeter
The fun part is they used to be shipped without the ignitor installed so a lot of the duds were simply because people didn’t follow instructions and didn’t grab the little tin filled with ignitors.
soviet pattern grenades are shipped disassembled even today, but it’s kinda harder to miss that you don’t have the entire pin and spoon mechanism
Yep, with potato mashers they were inside and hidden.
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baseball.
The average American could be expected to already know how to throw a baseball, so it was easier to change the equipment to fit the user than to train every fucking soldier how to throw a lopsided stick.
Is this why soldiers in the rest of the world kick their grenades like a soccer ball?
we are so lucky that basketball wasn’t as popular back then
Balloons full of explosive gas.
That’s a reason for then not now.
Better question is then why didn’t Germany stick with the old design instead of switching to more “modern” looking grenades?
And the answer is NOT “baseball”. The answer is that they’re too heavy and cumbersome. And the cons outweighs the pros.
The answer is it simplified NATO logistics
Pray we don’t simplify it further
It’s actually that they’re more expensive when you add the frag jacket to them. There cheaper to produce but logistically more expensive being larger and multi part.
That and all the other reasons. The only stick grenades still around in appreciable numbers are anti-armor grenades where the handle has a parachute inside. For normal fragmentation grenades, essentially everyone has moved to non-stick grenades (except the USMC who want to make stick grenades).
Even in WW2, the Germans produced more of the boring looking Model 39 grenades than they did of the iconic and eye catching stick grenades. People notice what they want to notice.
Hungary made stick grenades until relatively recently, but even there stick part is much shorter (M42)
Why I hedge with “essentially everyone” because I know some obscure Literally Who is always going to be an exception.
Rules are defined by their exceptions, so I tend to welcome the obscure wildcards for a frame of reference.
Knife juggler here, so I have a lot of experience throwing off-CG objects…
It’s not really that different from throwing a baseball. It’s a little more difficult to catch, but with very little practice ( like 5 or 10 minutes) you’ll be able to do it. That being said, I think the “baseball” style grenades where adopted because they can fit through smaller openings, you can roll or tumble them towards your target, they’re harder to see, and harder to scoop up and throw back.
And that was when the SAS started recruiting ‘grenade returner’ jugglers.
Uhh, what do you think Wimbledon is?
I thought it was American football as the design is more shaped to be more closely resembling a hand held size 🏈
American football was simply more popular back then too, but a little less now in terms of ratio, but the crowd has still grown instead of shrinking/stagnantion
A football is WAY bigger than a grenade, and football was way less popular in the 40s because 1. Baseball came first and 2. Baseball is better in person and TVs sucked. Even if more people play football now, it’s still better to design grenades around baseballs because you spend more time practicing with a ball in baseball, and only one person per team knows how to throw a football.
Because sometimes you need to take out a tank.
In my opinion I think it’s more likely for someone to have played baseball then football
Cause football needs alot more prep when baseball can be just a random school activity
Note: I’m not athletic at all and this is just based on my personal experiences
Why aren’t grenades shaped like hacky sacks
Let me go further: spikes.
This destroys the butthole.
Barbed for my pleasure uwu
count to ten
SPIKES
Ooh, bonus shrapnel!
What in the Call of Duty is this shit?
They’re from Halo
Thanks chief
Anything can be a dildo if you are brave enought
Bombcock, bombcock,
send your asshole into shock …
I can carry 8 modern hand grenades, or 2 of those things.
We should use those ball throwers for dogs. Imagine the distance you could get! Then you could have 8 normal grenades and throw them stupid distances.
An atlatl for grenades!
A splatlatl, if you will.
Genuinely made me actually laugh out loud
Stick grenades?
Wisest wizard gets weird in the marines
I put the fuze on both sides, that way I always come out topped.
Yeah, what could possibly go wrong? Blow me in half?
The Germans did have hand grenades without a stick. Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations, and the little one was favored for defense.
I assume this has something to do with the distance you can throw them.
Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations
A minor addendum, the M24 and M43 stick grenades both had fragmentation sleeves produced for them. These could be quickly fitted over the grenades to change them from offensive to defensive grenades. Similar to the RGD-33 stick grenades used by the Soviets.
I assume this has something to do with the distance you can throw them.
The difference between offensive and defensive grenades is defined by how much fragmentation they produce. Without a fragmentation sleeve, a German stick grenade produces blast and concussion but very minimal fragmentation, making it’s practical danger area smaller. This is good for an offensive grenade where the person throwing it likely has less cover than the person receiving it. A defensive grenade produces fragmentation, and is desired when the person throwing it has cover to hide behind safely.
The non-stick grenade commonly used by the Germans in WW2, was the Model 39 (“egg grenade”), and it actually came in both offensive and defensive flavors. So really, either a stick or egg grenade could be used for either role.
defensive grenades
Yes, and?
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We have grenade launchers now.
Someone needs to make one that fires the stick grenades. At 3500 RPM.
Once again NCD reinvents the bolter
why stop at grenades? I wanna see some two handers.
>can give you pleasure
Are we saying blowing stuff up is fun, or telling you to go fuck yourself with a grenade?
Yes.
Too many people tried using them as hammers.
How about just clubbing someone with a live explosive?
This only works if you are black and Scottish
