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  • 'Cowardly and Despicable': Hegseth Condemned for Sinking of ‘Defenseless’ Iranian Ship

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  • You've repeatedly insulted me, no one said it was all claiming I support Trump.

    That was after you insulted me first boss, just reread the comments of you're confused about chronology.

    No they in fact do not, they can but that is not inevitable or obligate.

    In this country it is legally not a war unless declared by Congress. Casus belli does not obligate the declaration of war.

    Legally we aren't. That's not the only personal attack you've made either but you're just repeating yourself at this point. Yes those are war crimes as well, it does not mean the US is at war, clearly.

    It's not a belief, it's how the construction of the Constitution works.

    You clearly do not.

    No need for luck nor to condescend.

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  • Bro the fact you're taken to multiple personal attacks but can't remember where or when is fairly telling.

    That's how it is legally defined in the United States like it or not that's how it actually works.

    It's not a belief it's the actual law.

    An act of war and declaration of war are two separate things. Taking a head of state into custody is an act of war and yet we aren't at war with them either.

    Duh, that doesn't change the fact that we are not at war.

    Yeah no shit, two shitty nations using the same playbook doesn't really change anything and Russian law allows Putin control over declaration of war, that simply isn't how it works in the US.

    You 100% are, and it 100% is a war crime and that is iirc the fifth personal attack on me.

    It's all of those things and a war crime.

    You've proven my point but apparently don't know you have. Though it is fairly amusing you insult my reading comprehension and quote that particular section without comprehending it.

  • 'Cowardly and Despicable': Hegseth Condemned for Sinking of ‘Defenseless’ Iranian Ship

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  • It is when it's an auxillary ship carrying civilians bud. You are just wrong.

    Ya huh. The most successful subs of the class being designed to do just that is what? Coincidence?

    Also wrong but clearly so at least.

    Not allegedly, it was boarded and searched and Iran doesn't have the unrep ability the US does unless you're implying they docked somewhere and replenished munitions it was in fact unarmed. No one said preemptively, they didn't even notify them after the strike. Sri lanka said they did not add I do not trust the US because it has time and time again lied about it's actions.

    We are not at war, we are taking part in special combat operations. After 150 days without approval from Congress we will be at defacto war. Until then we aren't at war.

    By not calling it a war I'm saying Congress did not approve and thus it is not a war. See above for why. But nice try at yet another personal insult.

    It was a war crime, auxillary ships are not taken in the same way an active fleet ship is. The US did have other ships in the area notably the pict which had just left sri lanka from the same fleet exhibition.

    That's equivocating which is why I keep saying it and it is in fact defending the indefensible.

    That is also a war crime, yes. Good job accepting that fact.

    Agreed, I didn't say this was an illegal order. I said it was a war because it clearly was.

  • 'Cowardly and Despicable': Hegseth Condemned for Sinking of ‘Defenseless’ Iranian Ship

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  • Yes a seie and actual rafts, is not a reading comprehension issue, it's a you meeting factually wrong.

    Duh.

    It was on both accounts.

    Neither is yours especially when you're wrong.

    Yes they were, you're talking about the modem use not their original intention.

    Again dena was not outside of Iran's waters nor for that matter us waters they were 2000 miles from the ao and unarmed, they're not at all comparable.

    Yes my point is they didn't choose cowardice on purpose. They issued a warning and then took action. It's the law but yes sure it's good pr and the right thing to do.

    Ya huh, tell me where I used either incorrectly rather than playing for personal insults yet again.

    It's a war crime and you're equivocating.

    Its a military target not a warship when unarmed acting as an auxiliary ship. They didn't even warn sri lanka which would be the least of all available measures again you're making excuses for the inexcusable.

    There is, it's too rescue the crew because we aren't at war with them let alone total war.

    Stop simping for hegseth and his illegal bullshit dude, it's gross.

  • 'Cowardly and Despicable': Hegseth Condemned for Sinking of ‘Defenseless’ Iranian Ship

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  • They've given fair warning to literally every ship they've sunk. Laugh all you want but that's just a fact. Seizing an unarmed ship is literally the original purpose of attack subs.

    You can attack proportionally, sinking an unarmed ship that's made no aggressive moves is not at all proportional.

    Yes they are, and subs can release lifeboats while submerged. It's an option for just such an occasion. We are not at total war, we're not even legally at war we're involved in special combat operations which are intended to be ao limited.

    They had a strike group nearby, try again.

    They're absolutely equipped to take part in post action rescue operations, they train for it and everything.

    Yes they absolutely do, you're talking out your ass. Almost all subs will carry two or more rafts for surface operations and that's ignoring the overstock of seie suits.

    You're contradicting yourself. You can't say they don't have X and then say what of they run out of X.

    Seriously quit equivocating dude.

  • 'Cowardly and Despicable': Hegseth Condemned for Sinking of ‘Defenseless’ Iranian Ship

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  • It's a military target, it isn't a warship. When deployed unarmed to naval exhibitions they are deployed as auxillary, it's the same as training ships.

    Because it was boarded and inspected to take part in a fleet week of sorts, yes.

    You can when it's beyond combat zones and flying flags signaling peaceful intention and being unarmed. There's a proportionality issue when it comes to striking military targets and moreover there's an obligation to rescue crew.

    It wasn't anywhere near Iran unless you are somehow under the impression sri lanka is adjacent to Iran. And Ukraine tends to abide by normal military conventions so yes if they knew it to be unarmed they would likely seize the ship and not sink it.

    Iran:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran#/media/File:Iran_(orthographic_projection).svg

    Sri lanka:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lanka#/media/File:Sri_Lanka_(orthographic_projection).svg

    Location of sinking : https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1536/cpsprodpb/3188/live/10450900-17e7-11f1-b048-c9424b2cf5fd.png.webp

  • 'Cowardly and Despicable': Hegseth Condemned for Sinking of ‘Defenseless’ Iranian Ship

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  • An unarmed boat is not a warship as per international law. They fly flags that state they are unarmed as this one was.

    Quit equivocating.

  • 'Cowardly and Despicable': Hegseth Condemned for Sinking of ‘Defenseless’ Iranian Ship

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  • They knew it was unarmed it was leaving an event that involved unarmed ships, an event the US backed out of and then had a sub attack a ship they knew to be unarmed.

    Seizure would be arguably legal, sinking it is not.

  • Iranian warship sunk by the US was sailing home after taking part in an exhibition hosted by India

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  • Iranian warship sunk by the US was sailing home after taking part in an exhibition hosted by India

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  • No they bombed a school to spur terror attacks throughout the region and especially in the USA. And you really think it's just lemmy people are talking about it.

  • Iranian warship sunk by the US was sailing home after taking part in an exhibition hosted by India

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  • We've gone over this, they say it's a holy war. How do you get war powers? You piss off Iran enough to do some actual damage to us personnel either overseas or here at home.

    Why just one? Because one allows you to have sycophants or useful idiots to excuse it as a mistake like for instance what you are doing.

  • Iranian warship sunk by the US was sailing home after taking part in an exhibition hosted by India

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  • I don't need to explain that, no school should be targeted.

    How do you explain the fact they double tapped it if it were in fact mistaken?

  • What's in a name

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  • As a college primarily focused on educating teachers, Eau Claire housed Park Elementary, a laboratory school. Park Elementary had an unusual architectural design that included a hidden third story balcony used by professors and student teachers to observe classes.

    It was a school for teaching teachers how to teach. The windows were so they could be observed without knowing it since sit in observation can change the way interactions that place.

  • The top 10 speeders in New York City

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  • The fact they can afford 46k in tickets tells you exactly why.

  • Iranian warship sunk by the US was sailing home after taking part in an exhibition hosted by India

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  • So you're under the impression we know how to find their nuclear program, is exact storage locations, the defenses in place, how much rock and concrete it's under but somehow some way can't use a telephone book to find out it's a girl's school or use satellite photography to see school children going in and out on a daily basis?

    Really that makes more sense to you then people taking part in a self proclaimed holy war striking civilian targets?

  • Iranian warship sunk by the US was sailing home after taking part in an exhibition hosted by India

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  • Keyword used to be, we have the largest Intel apparatus of any nation, combine that with Israel being at the very least top ten especially when it comes to Iran.

    They knew, stop trying to make excuses for the inexcusable.

  • Iranian warship sunk by the US was sailing home after taking part in an exhibition hosted by India

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  • Bro two hospitals and a school where they haven't shown a valid target nearby is three civilian targets too many for the most technologically advanced military in the world.

    Double tapping is just fuel on a bonfire but sure if prevaricating for fascists is your deal then carry on.

  • Iranian warship sunk by the US was sailing home after taking part in an exhibition hosted by India

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  • They mean striking civilian targets when they say carpet bombing, they don't mean WW2 style mass dumb bombing.

  • What's missing?

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  • That was the first thought I had. Who the fuck needs foot cleavage?