• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    Sure, more Palestinians will die

    Sure, Ukrainians will die

    Sure, US minorities will die

    Sure, the entire world will suffer from a fascist demagogue at the head of the most powerful country in the world

    But have you considered that, for a few brief moments of time, we created a lot of value for the shareholders we got to feel smug over the SHITLIBS who wanted to prevent fascism?

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      Ahh, but you see, you disagreed with Stalin that one time, and therefore you were the fascist all along

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        As I believe in the abolition of capitalism and the creation of a popular base of support for such a measure, instead of a narrow oligarchy oppressing the proletariat and enforcing its will on society, I am a shitlib. It’s a terrible burden to bear. 😔

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          Correct, my harm reduction framework is much more violent than your harm reduction framework, and is therefore more interesting, which makes you wrong.

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          Communism sucks! We should have a classless, moneyless, stateless society where goods are distributed from each according to ability to each according to need instead! And according to Hexbear users, such a model is called liberal capitalism.

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        And hardly takes that. All you have to do is have a subtle difference of opinion, and BAM! You’re a fascist.

        My favorite, however, is that when you point out that their arguments are 100% logical fallacies, you get banned from multiple communities at once.

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          Did you know if you support Harris, you’re also a transphobe?

          Just admit it!

          Something something chronically online lmfao touch grass bougie.

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      It’s honestly such a shockingly privileged position it almost defies belief that anyone could actually be so dense unless they are operating in bad faith. Yes, there are several serious problems in the world, and absolutely none of them are solved by helping the US slip into fascism. Leftists in particular are supposed to hate fascists, so I can’t imagine how anyone with leftist sympathies could possibly want to see what the world looks like with an unrestrained Trunp at the helm. Again, unless they are so privileged they don’t think the consequences would affect them personally, in which case I would call any other profession of external empathy which they might bleet ad nauseum, as questionably sincere.

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        They don’t think the consequences will touch them. They’re the leftist equivalent of “shitlibs”

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        it almost defies belief that anyone could actually be so dense

        There is no end to the depths of human stupidity.

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      But what else am I gonna do with my feelings of impotent rage? Try to actually change something?

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      This was a great comment until you implied only conservatives are deciding not to vote for Harris due to our support of Israel.

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        I was making fun of that short-sighted self-serving nature by making a comparison to capitalist conservatives, not asserting that champagne socialists are, themselves, capitalist conservatives (though, functionally, their actions serve the same goals).

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            Prefferring the surety of another four years where they don’t have to think about politics over the chance for fundamental changes in how our political system functions when a large majority of the country aligns against a second Trump administration.

            God, accelerationism is so fucking dumb.

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              If we just let the fascists win then we’ll be able to usher in a socialist paradise! What’s unclear about that to you? Read a book! /s

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                I hate and love how this is pretty much exactly accelerationism explained without the childlike naiveté.

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                A literal pandemic killed millions of Americans and the status quo between the Democrats and the Ivermectin party barely even twitched.

                If you think there is a realistic electoral path out of our bipartisan death spiral, I would love to hear it. I’m just cynical enough not to be surprised that neither complicity in genocide abroad or the mass murders of schoolchildren at home will convince the Democrats to start treating Republicans like a threat.

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                  The way out of a death spiral is not directly into oblivion. It fucking sucks that genocide is in the category of really important things that need addressing but it is not in the category of things that can be addressed in this particular election.

                  The electoral path is not at the ballot box every four years at the presidential level. It’s down the ballot and on the other the years. It’s building political capital for the cause you believe in by showing usefulness to the people seeking or holding power and talking to them about the issues you care about. Volunteer for your local house candidate and talk to people in their campaign about how important it is to you that they don’t support genocide, urge them to vote against arms shipments and denounce settlements. Tell your representative how you want them to vote and get other people to do the same.

                  Working to get people elected gets them to listen to you, that’s why there’s so much money involved in elections.

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                Every time the Dems look left they lose. They go to the center because they lose control (they need all 3 houses to do anything), so they go to the center to find voters. They’ve had control of all 3 houses for, drumroll please, 4 of the last 24 years. Want them to stop going to the center? Them give them victories.

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                As opposed to trying to make things better and avoid more suffering for everyone.

                Accelerationists have never lived through what they claim to want because if they did, and lived, they would no longer be accelerationists.