• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Brianna would probably go apeshit if you made the same format but with good jew, bad jew.

    Also a very deliberate use of transsexual because she’s not actually ok with either of these women existing.

    She’s also implying that “normal” trans women are straight, and adults. One of these is a child in school uniform. Lots of layers here.

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      This is something I’ve struggled with for a while so I’m just going to ask and hope that no one gets mad at me for it - what is meant when you guys say someone is against their own existence?

      Like in this example, I wouldn’t argue against her having internalized bigotry but it seems like a leap to say that an openly trans woman is against the existence of trans women as a whole. Something about assigning this viewpoint to her doesn’t sit well with me, like my gut feeling is that there’s something less honest about that than just calling it transphobia, but I’m 100% speaking out of ignorance here.

      • LoveSupreme [love/loves, she/her]@hexbear.net
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        See Peter Theil and the German AFD lesbian leader

        Internalized bigotry to the point of believing people like yourself shouldn’t exist, but like all bigots, giving an exception to themselves for their standards and just ignoring the cognitive dissonance

        Alternatively watch uncle ruckus from the boondocks for an exaggerated illustration

        The ideal Aryan is blond like Hitler, fit like Goering, and tall like Goebbels

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          See Peter Theil and the German AFD lesbian leader

          Can you give me some reading on these two? Obviously I’ve heard about Theil a decent amount but nothing about his personal life.

          I had believed that the cognitive dissonance would be wholly insurmountable for sexuality in a way that it isn’t for things you can handwave away by believing hard enough in eugenics (just repeat “I shouldn’t have been born like this” enough times that you can maintain your bigotry), but I really haven’t thought deeply about it. It’s just so hard for me to imagine someone being openly lgbt while saying it shouldn’t be a thing and not being crushed to death under the cognitive dissonance. What is the out so they can live with that?

          I’m capable of picturing someone openly lgbt advocating that they should be second-class citizens, that’s unfortunately something that happens as a way to try to find acceptance in a deeply bigoted crowd. I can’t figure out how someone would say they shouldn’t exist entirely and just…live with that contradiction.

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            What is the out so they can live with that?

            Class.

            You’re looking at identity by itself. You need to intersect it with class. A poor prole gay does not behave the same way a member of the bourgeoisie who is gay behaves. Class insulates them from the side effects of what they sow against others in their identity. Class supersedes identity in almost all circumstances where it intersects, a member of the bourgeoisie will choose their class interests before their identity interests if the two interests are not aligned with one another.

            Identity politics alone do not provide a good analysis of outcomes within groups without looking at the intersection with class.

            To be absolutely clear here - I am not saying identity politics are bad, I am saying they are incomplete without the inclusion of class in the analysis.

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              I think I was just taking it too literally. What you’re saying is obviously correct, I was getting stuck because they don’t literally believe in anti-lgbt ideology, they’re just willing to adopt it without hesitation when it’s convenient for them. It makes sense to talk as though they believe in that when functionally it is their ideology, but it isn’t literally given that they’d become pro-lgbt overnight if that ever benefited them more. There’s no cognitive dissonance when you don’t care enough to form real beliefs.

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            Thiel famously funded Hulk Hogan’s lawsuit against Gawker after they revealed that he’s gay.

            Alice Weidel is more baffling. She is very on top of how her living with her wife in Switzerland is talked about by the media. Like the first article you can find about her being homosexual is with the Bild basically the worst tabloid in Germany and she just mentioned as a sidenote that she is living with a female partner.

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            I can’t figure out how someone would say they shouldn’t exist entirely and just…live with that contradiction.

            We are communist, who’s thinking and worldview is driven by dialectical materialism, which naturally destroys contradiction, dissonance, and seeks logical outcome. This does not mean we are free of bigotry or contradiction (let he who is without sin cast the first stone), but our worldview pushes us away from those things and towards analysis

            Reactionaries do not operate off coherent worldview, their thinking is driven by gut instinct fueled by propaganda and whatever other horseshit is fed to the average westerner. They live with contradiction easy i-love-not-thinking

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        An Uncle Tom will happily enslave and murder his own race until he’s the only one left.

        Brianna is doing the trans version. She doesn’t give a fuck about trans people, she will happily work against all of us until we’re all dead as long as she’s ok. All the elements above are transphobic elements she’s worked in there intentionally. JK Rowling dogwhistles her transphobia more quietly than this image does.

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    i am resisting the urge to post brianna wu’s extremely “normal” and totally not fetishistic art from college.

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      Corpo trans people (as in those who are HR) or really any trans person who displays reactionary behavior (ie racism etc) really infuriate me.

      Not to suggest I feel entitled to what trans people do with their own lives but it’s akin to just recoiling at pathetic behavior.

      My previous employer, who shitcanned me, had an hr person who was ftm and I swear this motherfucker existed in some alternate Nazi dimension, talking about how great his SAT scores were, bragging about being employed because he studied art while others who studied some other humanities major were homeless.

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        It’s cause I work in kitchens and everyone is associate with is poor. But I have never once met a trans person with bad politics. While I know this is just cause of the company I keep and the job I have, it still shocks me to see it. I f i had to work in an office environment my obvious and open contempt for everyone around me would have me fired within a week. I wouldn’t last a half hour around such loathsome, tedious, self centered, BORING motherfuckers. My job is hard and doesnt pay much, but there’s no bullshit like that, you can speak openly within the realm of how much you would chatting on the sidewalk, being direct is crucial to getting the job done and therefore being a straight shooter in non work conversation doesn’t surprise people. Plus I get to swear constantly and make culturally insensitive jokes about Italians, its an italian restaurant so ive got lots of ammo. Today I said Little Italy isnt a catchy name and they should have went with The Spaghetto, and that the head of Italian Parliament was known as the Prime Minestrone

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      she wasn’t even the victim of gamergate, the primary targets initially were anita sarkeesian and zoe quinn.

      she posted on social media and did get harassed, but her retelling always makes it sound like the whole affair was all about her only

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        oh no, she is: a transphobe, an anti-communist/leftist, classist, homophobic, elitist, ableist and a conformist snob in no ranking order and all in about three words. blue maga, south park republican with none of the subtlety and grace or a filter for her bigotry.

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    Ah! But you See, I have Depicted Your Side of the Argument as Obese and Angry and Mine as Conventionally Attractive. Therefore I Win the Debate.

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    You heard it here folks, anti-Zionism is the real genocide. The thoroughly documented genocide against Palestinians? Imaginary

    projection