CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]

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Cake day: August 13th, 2023

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  • I’m talking to humans about human concepts. The birds don’t care, but humans do. It’s probably necessarily going to seem anthropocentric to talk about how all life is beautiful and deserves to be preserved, therefore we need a better approach to the environment than “destroy it all and save a few individuals”.

    I don’t think it’s paternalistic to appreciate other creatures. I am certainly not coming at it from a paternalistic standpoint, more a stance of loving our fellow living creatures and appreciating them.

    Plenty of organisms aren’t particularly aesthetically pleasing but are still important, and I feel like projecting a human framework over them risks concealing that.

    Aesthetics can be part of it but also I disagree, I think there’s beauty to be found in the vast majority of organisms. You just have to look closely enough or consider more about them than how they look, but also their behavior, life cycle, or just how interesting they are evolutionarily. Absolutely true that it’s not just appearance that matters. Their place in the ecosystem matters too. Beyond that and more importantly, the fact that other organisms exist and live is enough to make them matter. They live, therefore they have value and rights. I cannot think of a single species that is beyond appreciation. Even ticks and mosquitoes, which I do feel negatively toward for parasitism and being infection vectors, have redeeming qualities. Even blood flukes have things about them that can be appreciated.

    Dignity is a very human idea; some vultures shit on their own legs to cool down, there’s no way to describe them as “dignified”

    Hard disagree. Vultures are wonderful. They’re really cool, many (not all, but many) are super cute, and are absolutely dignified and majestic in their own way. The fact that they shit and vomit on themselves to keep themselves cool is just part of their charm.

    it worries me that so much of the work that has to be done needs to be packaged up to appeal to human aesthetics even if that hurts the work itself

    I think I agree in that charismatic megafauna get more attention and support than more ecologically critical creatures, but the solution to me is to preach the gospel of loving all the creatures so that people care about the environment more as a whole rather than just isolated superstars. But I am interested in hearing you say more about that and your concerns. I am not trained in any of this.



  • Sooo many “wholesome” videos of predator and prey animals together and it’s horrible because eventually that cat or dog is going to kill and eat the little bird and it’ll be all the fault of the irresponsible asshole human owner who put them together. It happened with someone I knew irl and was completely predictable.

    And these assholes always get defensive when you say something, like “my precious baby isn’t a cold-blooded killer! They’re siblings! They’re both my kids!” No, animals are intelligent and sentient people too but you can’t just anthropomorphize them, you have to respect them for who and what they are