I’m a casual Half Life enjoyer. Spent some time on the subreddit and man is it off the wall.

Tunic has an interesting fandom. That writing system has inspired a lot of cool stuff. The subreddit is censored six ways from Sunday because of how spoiler-sensitive the game is, but I have to wonder what random passers-by must think.

The Undertale fandom has permanently put me off trying the game. It’s not really my kind of game anyway, but I enjoy the soundtrack.

Minecraft has to have had the biggest demographic shift in its player base I’ve ever seen. I bought the game when it was in beta. Most fans were adults who were able to give a random Swede 20 bucks via PayPal. After the game’s release, and especially after the console ports and eventual MS buyout, the average age got younger and younger. I miss the old Minecraft forums.

  • AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works
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    I play old school runescape. the community is either the nicest queer people you’ve ever met or absolute incels and there really not any in between.

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    I have at this point roughly 1.6k hours in a bunch of Monster Hunter games, though by and large the vast majority of them are in Generations and Generations Ultimate. I’ve never liked concerning myself with meta builds, certainly not in a cooperative PvE game that I regularly would play solo.

    Now I’ll preface this by saying I’ve made some lifelong friends in the community, one of which I traveled halfway across the US to visit a few years ago. I don’t think the community is all bad, but I’ve found so many people who will do very little other than try to minmax DPS build via the current meta and shame others for not doing the same.

    One not so bad instance I had was when I was trying to break into some higher tier armors. I was going into a fight that I figured would take a long time, knew was going to deal a decent bit of burst damage, could easily knock someone out after that burst was dealt, and most importantly had 3 people joining. Because of these factors, I went with a build where I would primarily support everyone else, then try to keep myself alive, then any time in between those priorities I would try to deal some damage. A large portion of my armor was kitted out to increase the effectiveness of my items, have them affect my teammates, make my items have chances to be reused, then I set up my inventory so I was carrying a lot of healing items and could craft more when necessary.

    One of the players in that 4 man squad I remember specifically trying to shame me for bringing a lower damage weapon (chosen because it had more skill slots), having significantly lower armor rating than the others (because I only had mid game support armor, not late game), and for not dealing much damage (because I was trying to keep him and the others alive). I say this one wasn’t too bad because I also remember specifically that others in that very party pointing out that although I may not have had much armor it didn’t matter much since I didn’t engage much and they had noticed how much I was keeping them alive which would have otherwise failed us all the mission.

    The worse situation I remember was getting sent DMs about how my build was bad, I was using awful skills, I had one particular armor set that was “a trap for new players”, and to “please just use [x] armor set”. They didn’t like I was using three skills each decided upon because they would fix reasons I kept getting combos interrupted then killed and told me none of them were necessary because “if you’re in the right spots then you won’t need any of those”,aka “git gud”. I could somewhat understand this mentality if we were in a PvP competitive setting, or if we were in a group together actively working to speedrun this monster, or if I had asked for feedback on my armor. This entire discussion came about because I was trying to share with the wider community: “hey I just found about this neat skill exclusive to this armor set!”

  • I think the Ark community is a little weird in so far as it is an extraction shooter, but the majority of players are opposed to PvP.

    Dwarf Fortress has a community like a think tank of scientists all fucking around in game to find out new and novel ways that mechanics synergize with each other.

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    Smash Brothers

    Find your local tournament, get accepted by them. They will teach you new tech, be super friendly and accept you as one of their own. Then one of the TO’s will sexually harass and/or attempt to rape you. If it’s not a TO, it’s another member of the community.

    Really weird and consistent shit.

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    Those of us left playing Titanfall 2 are generally a pretty great bunch. Most of the people who still play actually engage with the movement system and my word, that game has aged well. I love the community; it’s small enough to recognize people, but large enough to maintain an active base at all times of day. As for the meanest, definitely Rust. That community is such a cesspool. It’s not even funny. Nowhere else will you find such a wretched hive of bigotry and ideological subservience. Weirdest to my mind is probably the Batman Arkham one. From what I understand they have splintered, with one side developing an internally perpetuating sort of humor that focuses on making no sense, or being intentionally absurd in some way. The other side has remained largely a normal game community, but harbor an intense hatred for the splinter cell fandom insanity.

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    Unfortunately I play Rocket League… this game is ridden with bad actors. I keep the text chat on because when you encounter good faith players it’s the nicest thing to be able to converse, but the price is really high. Almost constant abuse, under all its forms : racism, insults, etc. I think it’s mostly unattended teenagers, but boy do they ruin stuff.

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      My friend keeps chat on, but refuses to say anything. His reasoning is that you can’t get banned for any quick chat messages, but everything typed is fair game. If you can get the other team to say something though… report time!

      Me? I change my name to mess with the other players. I’ve made quite a few friends from casuals through that method. Plus if you can toe the line on what’s acceptable to type, you can catch the other guys typing out diatribes as you score.

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    Coming from LoL/Dota2 to Heroes of the Storm was like going from ninth circle of inferno to like second or so. Mobas are still cancer imo, but transferring to a nicer community felt great.

    Left 4 Dead 2 unfortunately has been consumed by what seems a community of Russians and Germans. Neither of them are nice to you regardless of what side you play on. They’re good at game tho.

    One of the greatest communities I’ve participated in was an almost dead game of Town of Salem. Due to how small community is, people are generally nice to each other and just want to have fun playing this game. This doesn’t mean that there are no bad actors. In fact there are plenty since game is f2p. But they are usually quickly dealt with.

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      Is heroes of the storm still going? I stopped playing when I switched to linux, and at the same time development stopped, I think. I always just enjoyed how many people were up for the pve version to roflstomp the computer. Twas a fun side game when you didn’t want to stress with the other randoms on pvp.

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    Based on years of experience moderating a public Discord server:

    • Weirdest - Trails. Unfortunately, this is weird in the problematic way; think Pragmata. Some of the most well-known names in the fandom are that kind of weird. The series doesn’t do itself any favors leaning into it a bit, too. Adding to it is the perception that series fans are gatekeeping when they tell you to play the series in order when in reality, yes, the developers are insane enough to keep building a continuous narrative that’s gone 20 years, One Piece-style. Hard to convince people of that when video game series just don’t do that.

    • Nicest - Stardew Valley. I agree with the others here on that.

    • Meanest - Fire Emblem. I’ve seen some wars, holy hell. Aside from general fandom insularity from out-groups, there are intense, internecine wars going on within the fandom over the newer parasocial elements in the series. And then there are waifu wars on top of that within the part of the fandom that’s embraced the parasocial stuff. It’s a fandom crucible.

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    Warframe has all three. Late-game players will gladly carry new players through some of the early farms and often foist upon them a crapton of important items that are difficult to get in the early game (we remember and nobody should have to go through the early game alone).

    There are some who call the game woke trash and trying to boycot it because the latest female warframe has a larger body type and they can’t goon to it, or because of a relationship between two male characters that is hinted at being romantic, or because there are two nonbinary characters (both of whom are far better executed than most in media)… and some who sent the developers death threats for making a particular farm easier for new players.

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      Huh. I guess I never really understood the game then, because I never saw any power differences between new and late game. Like, I could tell I wasn’t effective at the higher levels, but I couldn’t even figure out how to get there. Then a family member came to stay for a week, got addicted and played my account and suddenly everything was bonkers.

      Plus, like most games of its type, coming in at the end of (how many now? I know I’ve seen like 15+ events) lore missions makes it awkward. Kind of like if I tried to go and play world of warcraft after leaving during the blood crusade.

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      Sounds like Destiny 2. Saw many of the angry ones leave for Warframe after The Final Shape and they bug out about the same crap.

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    Nicest: Factorio. No matter what you build, people will applaud you for it. Someone comes in, excusing their design for neither being efficient nor pretty. “If you had fun building it, it’s already great.”

    Worst: War Thunder. So much toxicity in the chat it’s impressive. Plus a fair bit of edgy kids dabbling in racism and neo nazism. I guess that’s a side effect of being Free to Play

    EDIT: Downvoted by war thunder players.

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      War Thunder is a game that I only know exists because of how many times it’s made the news from actual military vehicle schematics being leaked by forum users hellbent on winning arguments.

      edit: After writing this comment I went to double-check I was remembering the right game by searching lemmy for “war thunder” and immediately found this exchange, which I find funny:

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    Kerbal Space Program had a super nice community. Well, until KSP2’s cancellation, that brought a ton of haters seemingly out of nowhere. Fortunately I think that’s blown over and all the kind and creative people are moving over to Kitten Space Agency, which seems like a way better project.

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    Undertale’s fandom makes 10x more sense when you realize it started off with the same people from the Homestuck fandom (Toby fox used to do Homestuck stuff before Undertale).

    Deep Rock Galactic has a great fandom since everything about the game is about cooperating with others. Risk of Rain’s fandom is also pretty chill.

    Every fandom that gets popular enough will eventually become kinda toxic and have gatekeepers and people who take the game way too seriously. I wouldn’t put too much stock into fanbases unless it’s a multiplayer only game.

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      Gatekeeping is necessary for many things, though. Otherwise the thing will be changed into something its not and the thing you loved will become something different that you don’t love. Taken from you by other people coming in demanding the game be changed to fit their tastes instead of enjoying the game as the developers and artists originally created it to be.

      For example, Survival Horror as a genre has been all but erased by the “Action Shooter with Horror elements and Over The Shoulder Camera” genre every big name is copy-pasting nowadays. The only Survival Horror games coming out now are the very occasional indie game.

      Gatekeeping isnt inherently toxic. Yes, some people can be overly obnoxious about it, but usually that is an indicator that their favorites have been victimized before, and they dont want to lose another one. Becoming mainstream almost always destroys niche stuff, and most of the time it is better to remain niche than erase your identity to “appeal to a wider audience.” Lots of examples of that ending badly.

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        Maybe you have a different definition of gatekeeping, because for me it always meant fans keeping other fans out of the fandom for various reasons. I don’t see how that prevents other developers from developing similar games or the genre from shifting with new trends.

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          I dont think gatekeeping should prevent new people from playing a game, per se, but I dont see anything wrong with telling people to play a different game if they are demanding the game change to fit their tastes.

          Basically, if someone is acting like they know better than the developers, and their “improvements” don’t fit in line with how the game plays or feels, then their opinions on the game shouldn’t really matter. They have a problem with the game, and the problem is that they should play a different one.

          I don’t go around saying how Final Fantasy should stop being a turn based JRPG just because turn based combat and random battles make me go to sleep from boredom. I just don’t play those games because they aren’t for me.

          I guess thats really the issue: not every game (or movie, book, comic, etc) is for every person. Expecting that every game should change to fit your own tastes is toxic, and shouldn’t be allowed in communities. Unfortunately, all too often it is allowed and the result is disastrous. It alienates the core fans that would spend money and soon after the entitled people leave to ruin the next shiny thing.

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            Yeah, I don’t see that as gatekeeping. The gatekeeping I’ve seen, is knowledge checking newbies, then dismissing and griefing them for not already knowing everything as “fake fans”. Demanding streamers play a game a certain way, because that’s considered the optimal/correct way. Generally being elitist and smug towards any newcomer in the community, actively pushing them out.