• rabber@lemmy.ca
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    10 hours ago

    Staged event obviously. Your ear doesn’t just miraculously regrow, never mind in 3 days

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    11 hours ago

    Here is what probably happened. Because this guy was a maga. That’s been established.

    Someone recruited him to fire a blank. They assured him he would just be arrested or maybe do a fake death and give him a new identity. Though they planned to kill him.

    They likely told him this would help secure trump the presidency.

    And it was honorable.

    They probably found him by profiling his social media activity.

    Weird how he didn’t have much to be found huh? Almost like someone high up wiped his record?

    This is what I think. This kid was told to fire a blank. Given a gun and the blank.

    Told Where to be. When to do it.

    And then killed so he could never talk.

    Which means. Trump killed him too. A long with all the other deaths on his hands.

    Eventually someone who knows, will snitch. No doubt some shady lawyer was involved somehow.

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        6 hours ago

        It was all coordinated and he has history of such things. With his TV show and WWE. It’s too obvious.

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      11 hours ago

      Obviously, given the miraculously healing ear. Of course he could also be the actual antichrist.

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      23 hours ago

      I do too.

      It’s absolutely inconceivable to me that USSS let a shooter get that close, that anyone could miss that shot, and that Trump would do anything but shit his pants and immediately save his own skin when faced with an actual threat

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        21 hours ago

        The Secret Service part might make more sense with more context. At the time, Trump had somewhat limited Secret Service because he was not the current president. And he was running his team ragged going to rally after rally, refusing their security recommendations.

        They didn’t have the time or the manpower to do the job they were asked to do.

        Then, this is just my theory, but although the Secret Service is like the best of the best police, I suspect Trump attracts the worst of the best of the best, if you know what I mean.

        In every other job around him, Trump manages to fill it with the worst people available. Competent people don’t like working with Trump because he constantly interferes with their work. I see no reason why his security would be different.

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        22 hours ago

        I don’t know if it was a setup, but I’m confident Trump was not shot. Even an ear piercing leaves a scar. And that part of the ear doesn’t bleed much. Also, wounds don’t heal three days later.

        But as much as any of that, Trump would shit his pants if he were actually shot.

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          14 hours ago

          Well that Depends, he might have shit his pants but as early as The Apprentice, he reportedly would soil himself and need to be cleaned up by an assistant on set that was nicknamed Wet Wipes.

          https://youtu.be/W5uqAavJPAo - one of the show people talking about Wet Wipes.

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          14 hours ago

          It is worse. Cartilage doesn’t regrow. Take a look at a pic of someone who has their ear torn or shot. They grow back like shit without intervention.

          There is no way to that he had more than a graze.

          Then again, I’m probably just paranoid. It isn’t like he has direct experience with fake blood capsules or the people who use them regularly.

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        23 hours ago

        iirc the shot was 300 yards with iron sights. That’s not impossible but it’s not easy either. Someone who doesn’t shoot often would definitely have trouble with that

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            20 hours ago

            Does it matter if he used blanks?

            Yes, I’m implying this was staged and he was just used. Maybe he was even told that he was there to protect trump as a secret backup to USSS. There are a lot of mentally ill people that you could convince of anything.

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              He didn’t use blanks, he just missed the target. Unless his target was the firefighter behind Trump in which case he did well. Trump got scratched by either shrapnel (possible), one of the SS officers jumping on him (likely) or it was a blood squib (conspiracy). But he did feel his ear before the SS officers jumped him.

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                18 hours ago

                Unless his target was the firefighter behind Trump in which case he did well.

                Anybody remember that line from Shooter?

                You want to take away all suspicion away when you shoot someone? Shoot him when he’s standing next to the president.

                Maybe crazy… but…

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                19 hours ago

                Why are you assuming he killed that guy?

                If this was staged why would trump give even a tiny chance of being hurt by some loon?

                There were multiple shots fired at the moment.

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              7 hours ago

              First, not even close. The moa of the rifle used was 2-3, where both the m4 and m16 are about 1. It was a crappy rifle that sold as a very-budget rifle. It wouldn’t even qualify as “good enough”. Like the m16.

              Secondly, the ammo he was using was a lighter loading for target shooting and lower energy.

              As set up, it was at the edge of what crooks could be effective at (which is significantly lower than what he can hit at.) even if Crooks had the skill to make the shot. (Which he didn’t.)

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            17 hours ago

            The rifle is effective at ranges further than the shooter. In every case. That rifle is more than capable of a killing shot from there, and further.

            He was 130 m or so away. 5.56 is deadly from further. A lot further.

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        19 hours ago

        The same reason the kid chose it for his nest is the same reason that the Secret Service would have had some counter sniper teams up on that roof.

        Where were they?

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    We know he was a far right agitator who wanted for there to be a massive right wing backlash against the left if I remember correctly.

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    19 hours ago

    More like he almost doomed the free world and the economy. Imagine if Trump died and an actually competent fascist came in his place. This is the best realistic scenario for America; someone like Putin would already have his opposition in gulags.

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      10 hours ago

      I mean that’s possible, but also Trump is 100% being managed by the federalist society. He can barely stay awake during meetings, no way he’s actually dictating policy.

      And that also assumes their was a clear second to take the reins of MAGA that the inner circle would rally behind, power vacuums tend to lead to infighting and without a clear cult leader the low level maga worshipers would likely be in chaos.

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        I mean that’s possible, but also Trump is 100% being managed by the federalist society. He can barely stay awake during meetings, no way he’s actually dictating policy.

        For the most part, yes, but there are pretty clear Trumpisms that a better fascist would have the intelligence and discipline not to indulge in. The whole tariff fiasco for example was completely unnecessary (which is why it’s not in Project 2025), and the sheer mass of unforced errors leading up to and during the Iran war would never be made by someone like Putin or Erdogan. Trump is being manipulated behind the scenes, but he’s also head of an increasingly authoritarian executive and can do things without his handlers’ approval. I’m certain, for example, that a more competent fascist would’ve been able to manufacture at least some consent for the Iran war, as well as get traditional American allies on board to some extent. These unnecessary failures keep kneecapping his administration’s credibility in ways that would’ve already been fatal if America had better opposition (though I guess with enemies that bad who needs allies). And this is before we get into factors like Trump’s inability to channel his own support into down ballot votes. Hell, at the very least America might’ve been run by a fascist who can stay awake during meetings.

        And that also assumes their was a clear second to take the reins of MAGA that the inner circle would rally behind, power vacuums tend to lead to infighting and without a clear cult leader the low level maga worshipers would likely be in chaos.

        Initially, yes, but very quickly the systemic need for fascism would win out, and there’d be a consensus candidate ready to sweep the elections by 2028 at the latest. Again this is hard to appreciate due to how incompetent the anti-MAGA coalition is, but with a martyr and a somewhat competent leader it’s perfectly plausible that neo-MAGA would’ve had bigger—maybe even filibuster-proof—majorities in Congress and more cooperative state governments across the board. As far as fascism goes, this is still easy mode.

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          I’m not too sure about the whole tariff thing. A lot of people in his inner circle made a fuck ton of money through tactically placed trades before and after each wave of sanctions.

          And again with the Iran war stuff, a lot of people are making a mint off this war. And also it’s Israel that wanted this war and basically all of the people pulling the strings have some loyalty to Israel.

          I don’t think so, historically when we see a fascist leader get killed the underlings fight each other for power and fall apart more than they coalesce around a new leader.

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            I’m not too sure about the whole tariff thing. A lot of people in his inner circle made a fuck ton of money through tactically placed trades before and after each wave of sanctions.

            Yes, that’s why I said “intelligence and discipline,” not just “intelligence.” Compared to the expected gains from a fascist dictatorship, a few insider trades are peanuts, so a better fascist might’ve kept their eyes on the prize and held back on this front instead of threatening the whole project.

            And again with the Iran war stuff, a lot of people are making a mint off this war.

            See above. A competent fascist wouldn’t risk their entire project just to make mint.

            And also it’s Israel that wanted this war and basically all of the people pulling the strings have some loyalty to Israel.

            Yes, which is also an unforced error. Israel can’t force a US president to do something they don’t want to do, and US presidents with a backbone have a long history of saying no to them, most recently with Obama and JCPOA. A better fascist would be able to make their own decisions rather than listen to whoever is loudest at the time. And in any case, even if war with Iran happened, it could’ve still happened much more competently.

            I don’t think so, historically when we see a fascist leader get killed the underlings fight each other for power and fall apart more than they coalesce around a new leader.

            What fascist leader died while on the cusp of power? Dying after decades in power is a whole different deal.

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          …but with a martyr and a somewhat competent leader it’s perfectly plausible that neo-MAGA would’ve had bigger—maybe even filibuster-proof—majorities in Congress

          They don’t need any of what you described to go “filibuster proof”

          1. They don’t even filibuster. They threaten to filibuster.
          2. The super majority vote to bypass filibuster is a PARLIAMENTARY RULE. It is not law, they can change the rule at any time with a simple majority vote. This is not in the constitution. They’ve changed the rules a few times since 1975.
          3. They bypass the “filibuster threat” whenever they would like to, by using the simple majority vote.

          This is how you know what they want to pass or not. If they want to pass the bill, they bypass the filibuster threat with this simple majority vote (like budgets), there are almost 200 exceptions so far.

          No conspiracy is needed to accomplish the objective that you describe. It’s done been done for decades

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      True actually, the maga cult that justifies everything Trump does finally got pierced by Trump starting a war only he would be dumb enough to start.

      Not that the war was the problem, mainly just gas prices went up which is anti American or something.

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      This was prior to his reelection, so who would have taken the reins? Vance? Desantis? They wouldn’t have turned out the voters like Trump did, even if Fox and OAN and the rest of the propaganda machine worked overtime to harp on how dangerous the left is for assassinating their guy or whatever. Trump has a uniquely cultish charisma that Vance and any other likely replacement candidate simply didn’t.

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        A replacement candidate didn’t exist then, but one would quickly emerge from the general mass of American fascism if Trump disappeared. They wouldn’t make it in time for 2024, but they’d crush it in 2028.