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  • Here’s a good write up for it all

    One of the more simple issues to understand, is that if there's an easy-to-reproduce natural explanation for what's happening/being observed, then it's probably that, and not something supernatural (Occam's Razor, all that.)

    And gee. some scientists did!From that article:

    After placing unconsecrated wheat communion wafers on or near the floor for several days and transferring them to containers of tap water to reproduce what has been described in various miracle reports, the scientists found in approximately 15% of the cases that a bright red area was growing on the remaining wafer portion some seven to 10 days later.

    basically, the only real difference here is that a priest hasn't done their magic spell to make it a host for christ or whatever weird term they use for it.

    basically, the wafer is a "special" styrofoam-like cracker made from wheat flour. the water is generic tap water, and the wafer's are usually found on the floor. to be respectful (cuz they believe it genuinely becomes the flesh and blood of christ...) they soak it in water until it no longer looks like bread, then pour it out- either into a special designated sink or someplace "respectful" like a flower garden.

    now onto a rather more likely explanation than magic. There’s a common bacteria that happened to sourdough starters, that gives is a pink to crimson kind of bleeding look. this is something we've known about for... welll... pretty much since we've been making bread. it's fairly uncommon because it's easy to avoid if you take reasonable measures.

    It can look like this:

    (This is a serratia infection on bread. It can also appear pink-ish, or orange.)

    but these miracles? they already believe in the magic. they're not looking for the natural, reasonable, repeatable explanation. They already believe that the wafer is the body of christ, and that the wine is the blood of christ. so when that freaky bloody looking thing shows up in the jar they're disposing of wheat, they don't think "hey no. it's probably this bacteria we've known existed since before our god was ever actually worshiped, that likes to infect wet wheat.". No. they jumped straight to magic.

    so they apply the tests that would support magic, without understanding the scientific tests that they're doing. like the antigen tests. yes. it tested positive for AB antigens, which yes, human blood has, too. So does bacteria, and the tests they used can't differentiate between the two sources like modern ones can.

    Or the DNA test, they ignored the statements by the people running them, that hey, there's probably contamination there. The wafer was handled, for example, by the priest, and maybe the person taking it, and maybe others. and that's if the DNA was even human. It could have been- again- from the bacteria doing it's impression of a Jackson Pollock painting. Or it could have been from the wheat itself. We won't know, because the DNA tests weren't able to tell us that. just that there was indeed DNA.

    Basically. They're using science they don't understand and when they squint at it, it makes them go 'AHA! PROOF!' but they've never once considered it might be something else, and these results were exactly what they wanted, so they go with it. This is why they're Anti-Science and should not be trusted with anything. Except maybe running with scisors. I think they can figure out why that's bad, and if they can't, well... it's probably not going to kill them. (maybe start with those kiddy scissors they gave us in preschool?)

    for example....Did they ever consider that these miracles are being caused by the Demon of War, the enemy of the Big Flying Dildo, to mislead the faithful into the false religion of hate, so as to further spread the message of hate and fear? No? But the Big Flying Dildo sent a sign, warning of the Great Fuckening! (The photographer was in fact from Dildo! The bay it was in was Conception Bay! You can’t make this up!) so the Great Dildo is real and the catholic faith is just following the Demon of War, who is the Great Dildo's Greatest Enemy.

    Okay. Sorry for being facetious there. But not really. What I just did with an iceberg, they do with their miracles- which is just magic, by the way. And you should ask them. If this is true, why does it only happen to catholic eucharist hosts? protestants and evangelicals and orthodox christians all consecrate their eucharists? Eastern Orthodox believe in something very much like transubstantiation, lutherans believe in consubstantiation (the presence of christ is in the stuff, but it's not physically his flesh and blood.) protestants and evangelics view the act as purely symbolic (which, maybe a hold over of my bias, is the only position supported by scripture. cannibal weirdos.)

    All of that said, this doesn't actually get them to proving that A) there is a god,B) thatt god is legitimately the abrahamic god,C1) that Jesus was the messiahC2) that Jesus was the literal son of god, and also god.D) Jesus did miraclesE) his followers did miracles in his nameF) he died and resurrected and all that claptrop.G) Miracles are still happening.

    Until they prove all of that, my claim that this was really the Demon of War, and that the Big Fuckign Dildo is the only true god is just as valid. (Please please tell me they like to bring up pascal's wager. Cuz like, I don't think walking around with a but plug in case the BFD is true is going to hurt anything.)

    In fact, though,, their own scriptures show that Jesus can’t be the messiah, because he fulfilled none of the messianic prophecies. And all the ones the gospels claim he fulfilled, were all some combination of already fulfilled by someone else, not messianic, not prophecy, or blatantly not about him.

    the truth is that the messiah was supposed to be a king in the line of david and as told, Jesus doesn't qualify. (the two lineages for Jospeh, are for Joseph, and in any case, Joseph isn't a legitimate heir, since Jocaniah(sp?) was cursed. and that line cant' be through Marry cuz she's a levite.

  • Bacteria contaminating samples produce AB antigens.

    It’s not unsurprising.

  • If you believe that they were in fact atheists. Or they even studied it.

    They’ll cite a vague WHO report, and decry it as some sort of persecution or conspiracy when you point out the WHO has no record of such a study. (Specifically of the Lanciano miracle.)

    Alternatively, the atheists published their findings- like that they found human dna on the Buenas Aires miracle (that happened under pope Francis when he was there.)

    And then promptly ignore the part of the report that says that DNA is most consistent with contamination from some one touching it.

  • Pond doesn’t seem very happy, though.

    No happy frogs and that makes the lil pond sad.

    (I could just see, Bob Ross turning to whoever said that, calmly before snapping in drill sergeant voice “YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN PAINTING!”)

  • how much wood could a woody get if a woody could get wood?

  • anybody remember...that jug...

  • apparently, that Mara Lago face has a long history....

  • My parents had me circumcised as an infant, in part because the surgeon warned them that I could see increased risk of infection.

    Or that’s the excuse they give.

    In any case I have no meaningful sensation past the base because the surgeon botched it and mutilated my dick.

    If it weren’t for the pleasure button put up the back door, I’d never know what an orgasm was. And the worst part? The statute of limitations for medical malpractice meant that the most justice I could get was an insincere apology form from the hospital. They weren’t even bothered to cut and paste my name into it.

  • You don’t really see advertisements for things like mega yachts or helicopters. Or private jets.

    Most things that you’ll have to talk to a dealer or rep for, you don’t actually see ads. Except maybe cars.

  • Apparently, Monsanto has paid their bribes.

  • Hypothetically, would this country be okay with not hosting all the redneck invest porn we have here?

  • but Courage is enough!

  • a rule I happen to like, lol. At least it has radial symetry so it doesn't look weird. (like that kelvin ship with one. weird)

  • For the record, Wasp violates rodenberries fairly arbitrary rules for feddie ships in that it has an odd number of nacelles.

  • It’s the blue bar thing that looks like a forced smile.

  • Technically, yes.

    But, we’re doing the whole Nazis thing right now so it’s just a bullshit excuse.

    But she’s already been on twice (and her response to all this was basically “well I don’t mind another go…”

  • That ship is in shape!

    (Round is a shape.)

  • Wouldn’t be shocked if this was staged to take some of the heat off the fucked up shit the IOC is carrying for Russia. (The sign carrier leading the Ukrainian delegation was Russian. And the bullshitnwith the skeleton guy that had pictures of dead ollympians killed by Russian getting disqualified,)

    Or maybe it’s the other stuff like curlers getting knocked out because of whatever.

  • FCC chairman Brendan whatshisbut did come out and say it would violate equal time some how.

    So yes, CBS is choosing to self-censor and be that mouthpiece, but also it would have aired of Brendan didn’t say anything. At least that’s my read.

  • Maybe I fucked up and read subscribers? The mobile page had 10 mil where it looked like views just now, expanding the info says 7.4 mil.

    Either way it’s a fuck ton more than the 2-3 mil they’d have had if they just aired it. (Gotta be honest it’s not Talarico’s best.)

  • Atheism @lemmy.world

    Be scared.

    skepchick.org /2025/10/trump-declares-atheists-are-terrorists/
  • Opossums @lemmy.world

    The future of transport!

    theonion.com /experts-say-future-of-green-transportation-may-be-16-to-1844636887/
  • aww @lemmy.world

    Tapir Cutie

  • News @lemmy.world

    Elon Musk's Enemy, USAID, Was Investigating Starlink's Contracts in Ukraine

    gizmodo.com /elon-musks-enemy-usaid-was-investigating-starlink-over-its-contracts-in-ukraine-2000559365
  • Superbowl @lemmy.world

    Finally got him!

  • Superbowl @lemmy.world

    Orly?

  • Star Wars Memes @lemmy.world

    Stormtroopers

  • Mildly Infuriating @lemmy.world

    I can't wear the stupid "I voted" sticker. Because they stick it to the mail in ballot instead.

  • Bats @lemmy.world

    ick, saw this and thought of you:)

  • Not The Onion @lemmy.world

    Florida man sneezes his intestines out of his body at restaurant

    www.independent.co.uk /news/world/americas/florida-man-sneeze-intestine-diner-b2568901.html
  • Superbowl @lemmy.world

    Hooo?

  • Star Wars Memes @lemmy.world

    Who doesn't want a lightsaber?

  • Mildly Infuriating @lemmy.world

    It's spring, dammit

  • Superbowl @lemmy.world

    Loaf.

  • Cooking @lemmy.world

    Broke out grandma’s candy thermometer….

  • Cooking @lemmy.world

    Am I the only one that starts quoting Macbeth while making pea soup?

  • Cooking @lemmy.world

    for the chemistry types- making chicken soup. Why did lemon juice turn the light brown chicken stock almost white?